4 things to do to enjoy the season more

[SoCalDukeFan]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

[brevity]

A few suggestions?

5. Remember how bored you get during the offseason, and save your threads about all-time Duke favorites for then. The main board is plenty busy dealing with the here and now.

6. If there's not an ACC game on, and you have some free time, try watching some games outside the ACC. Imagine how well-informed you'll be in March/April when you've actually SEEN some of Duke's tournament opponents in action -- maybe even the 16 seed.

That's all I got, if I'm going to stay mostly positive.

[obsesseddukefan]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

I have to admit, I am guilty of #1 and #2. I have tried to be a lot more chill over the last years, but when we win a NC, my highs are highs and my lows are low. LOL
Great post though. :)

[SupaDave]

Remember that it's still just a game...

[DukeGirl4ever]

These are great guys! I have always been a pessimist in everything I do, except when it comes to Duke basketball! I always remember how much I love those guys and that program, so the only time I'm devastated by a loss is when it ends our season.

Thanks for sharing!

[IBleedBlue]

I don't get carried away with in-season wins and losses. Over the years as I matured, I got a handle on my game time emotions. But, to be honest with my fellow Duke bretheren, I have been wishing for the last few years that wojo takes up a head coaching job some where and we replace him with a real big man to coach our big men. Except that, i am quite satisfied with this team so far this season.

Oh, I hate Time Warner Cable. Verizon Fios was so much better:(

[uh_no]

How many Division 1 games have your teams won?

So by your argument, nobody who hasn't coached D1 basketball can ever have a valid opinion about college basketball that differs from Coach K, and by extension, no other active coach can have such an opinion?

There are different ways to go about things. K uses man to man, boeheim uses zone. Is boeheim wrong becuase his teams haven't won as many games as coach K's? That seems to be what you assert here. People can have reasonable disagreements with coach K's methods, and if coach K's methods are so defensible, then you should be able to come up with a better argument than the ad hominem "he's won more games than you so your opinion is invalid and wrong"

[Devilsfan]

I'm not that low just wishing our science labs would hurry up and figure out how to clone more Kyles and Nolans.

[davekay1971]

And here I was hoping to see some drinking game suggestions. Oh well, I guess I'll have to make some...

1) Every time 'Dre launches one of the sweetest looking shots you've ever seen and buries a 3, drink.

2) Every time Nolan takes it into the lane and drops in a mid-range shot with unbelievable touch, drink.

3) Every time you think to yourself, "man, is Kyle tough, or what?", drink.

4) Every time Kyrie is shown wiggling his toe, drink.

5) Every time Coach K shows that a guy in his sixties can still have more fire and intensity than most of the rest of humanity, drink.

6) Every time a Plumlee throws down a monster dunk, drink. Drink twice, actually, since these aren't happening quite often enough...but when they do happen, they're worth two.

7) Every time Kelly makes an awesome defensive play, drink.

8) Every time Hairston or Thornton check into the game, drink. If they both check in together, drink two. If we're losing and they both check in together, finish your drink. Then get another, you're probably going to need it.

Feel free to add on. I'm gonna go stock up for the UVa game.

[rsvman]

So by your argument, nobody who hasn't coached D1 basketball can ever have a valid opinion about college basketball that differs from Coach K, and by extension, no other active coach can have such an opinion?

There are different ways to go about things. K uses man to man, boeheim uses zone. Is boeheim wrong becuase his teams haven't won as many games as coach K's? That seems to be what you assert here. People can have reasonable disagreements with coach K's methods, and if coach K's methods are so defensible, then you should be able to come up with a better argument than the ad hominem "he's won more games than you so your opinion is invalid and wrong"

I think what he's trying to say is that it is amazing how many guys on here who have maybe coached in the local 10-year-old rec league and maybe played on their high school basketball team seem to think they saw something in the game that prolly slipped by Coach K, or think that if they had been coaching the game, they would've instituted such-and-such a strategy and it undoubtedly would have succeeded, as though they KNOW MORE about basketball than Coach K and the staff. The concept is a bit ludicrous. Sort of like telling the chief of surgery at Johns Hopkins how to perform a coronary bypass because you watch medical shows on TV a lot.

[SupaDave]

And here I was hoping to see some drinking game suggestions. Oh well, I guess I'll have to make some...

1) Every time 'Dre launches one of the sweetest looking shots you've ever seen and buries a 3, drink.

2) Every time Nolan takes it into the lane and drops in a mid-range shot with unbelievable touch, drink.

3) Every time you think to yourself, "man, is Kyle tough, or what?", drink.

4) Every time Kyrie is shown wiggling his toe, drink.

5) Every time Coach K shows that a guy in his sixties can still have more fire and intensity than most of the rest of humanity, drink.

6) Every time a Plumlee throws down a monster dunk, drink. Drink twice, actually, since these aren't happening quite often enough...but when they do happen, they're worth two.

7) Every time Kelly makes an awesome defensive play, drink.

8) Every time Hairston or Thornton check into the game, drink. If they both check in together, drink two. If we're losing and they both check in together, finish your drink. Then get another, you're probably going to need it.

Feel free to add on. I'm gonna go stock up for the UVa game.

Awesome list...

9) Every time Seth does a reverse lay-up, drink.

10) If you find yourself wanting to see Kyrie and Nolan shake hands again, drink.

11) If you notice the bench having as much fun as those in the game, drink.

12) If Coach K celebrates with the crowd, drink two b/c it's definitely some good basketball being played.

13) If Coach Collins chest bumps ANYBODY, drink.

14) Everytime you realize that the team we are playing is playing the game of their lives, drink.

[Nrrrrvous]

8) Every time Hairston or Thornton check into the game, drink. If they both check in together, drink two. If we're losing and they both check in together, finish your drink. Then get another, you're probably going to need it.



Love it! :D

[moonpie23]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

5. Don't watch ANY unc games.......ever....no matter what.......try this and you'll be surprised at your quality of life....

[SoCalDukeFan]

So by your argument, nobody who hasn't coached D1 basketball can ever have a valid opinion about college basketball that differs from Coach K, and by extension, no other active coach can have such an opinion?

There are different ways to go about things. K uses man to man, boeheim uses zone. Is boeheim wrong becuase his teams haven't won as many games as coach K's? That seems to be what you assert here. People can have reasonable disagreements with coach K's methods, and if coach K's methods are so defensible, then you should be able to come up with a better argument than the ad hominem "he's won more games than you so your opinion is invalid and wrong"

I don't think K is perfect. I do think he knows much more about college basketball and this team then the posters on this board. I also think you will enjoy the season more if you stop trying to figure out what he should be doing and just accept that what he is doing has a pretty good chance of being successful.

Or you can argue with others on the board as to what he should do. Of course, he won't do any of it because he read it here.

SoCal

[sagegrouse]

SoCalDukeFan
3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

SoCal.


uh_no So by your argument, nobody who hasn't coached D1 basketball can ever have a valid opinion about college basketball that differs from Coach K, and by extension, no other active coach can have such an opinion?

There are different ways to go about things. K uses man to man, boeheim uses zone. Is boeheim wrong becuase his teams haven't won as many games as coach K's? That seems to be what you assert here. People can have reasonable disagreements with coach K's methods, and if coach K's methods are so defensible, then you should be able to come up with a better argument than the ad hominem "he's won more games than you so your opinion is invalid and wrong"


SoCalDukeFan
No[t] what I am saying

I don't think K is perfect. I do think he knows much more about college basketball and this team then the posters on this board. I also think you will enjoy the season more if you stop trying to figure out what he should be doing and just accept that what he is doing has a pretty good chance of being successful.

Or you can argue with others on the board as to what he should do. Of course, he won't do any of it because he read it here.

SoCal

You may be talking past each other. SoCal puts "not second-guessing K" in his recipe for enjoying the season more, although the reason he gives ("How many Div I games have your teams won?") waves a red flag in front of fellow posters. We have all agreed that K is not above criticism on this Board (although IMHO critics better bring their A game). Nor, of course, are fellow posters....

sagegrouse

[MCFinARL]

People can have reasonable disagreements with coach K's methods, and if coach K's methods are so defensible, then you should be able to come up with a better argument than the ad hominem "he's won more games than you so your opinion is invalid and wrong"

I'm not about to second guess Coach K based on my zero coaching experience (at least not in public), but your post gave me a laugh as it reminded me of my ex-brother-in-law's retort whenever I criticized one of his favorite NFL players: "He makes more money than you, so shut up."

[Regenman]

Now we're resorting to comparing coaching basketball to heart surgery???


Sort of like telling the chief of surgery at Johns Hopkins how to perform a coronary bypass because you watch medical shows on TV a lot

As a surgeon and a kiddie b-ball coach, let me tell you that it's much easier to pick up coaching tips on TV than surgery tips. So stop with the @$#@@ hyperbole.

[SoCalDukeFan]

You may be talking past each other. SoCal puts "not second-guessing K" in his recipe for enjoying the season more, although the reason he gives ("How many Div I games have your teams won?") waves a red flag in front of fellow posters. We have all agreed that K is not above criticism on this Board (although IMHO critics better bring their A game). Nor, of course, are fellow posters....

sagegrouse

It is fun to think what Duke should do differently. But don't get carried away.

SoCal

[weezie]

So by your argument, nobody who hasn't coached D1 basketball can ever have a valid opinion about college basketball that differs from Coach K...?


Yah, that about sums it up for this old timer.;) Aw geez, I totally muffed the quote. I'm a bad lady.

[RoyalBlue08]

This thread is way more fun than that IC-ish FSU post game thread. Glad I stopped by today. Well done.

[uh_no]

. I also think you will enjoy the season more if you stop trying to figure out what he should be doing and just accept that what he is doing has a pretty good chance of being successful.


I think most people would actually find that quite boring....without discourse on the game, the team, and what coach K is doing, this board wouldn't exist....or every post would be "good game xxx" or "bad game for xxx but coach K knows what he's doing"

[rsvman]

Now we're resorting to comparing coaching basketball to heart surgery???
....

It's an analogy. Remember those X is to Y as A is to B questions on the SAT? It's kinda like one of those. Those questions aren't comparing X to A, and neither was I.

But thanks for playing.

[aro24]

In the airport of life, sports is just the luggage.

Gotta love memories of Saved By the Bell.

[elvis14]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

Well, you got #1 and #4 right. #2 and #3 you are far far far away from being correct. Who cares how long the season is, revel in each win. Don't take them for granted, we are 1 more injury away from being a much worse team.

Also, I agree 100% with the sentiment that your season will be better if you don't watch any UNC games. If you usually watch them when they are on, take a couple of weeks and skip them. You will realize that you pretty much never want to see another UNC game.

[UrinalCake]

Remember where you were in life when you were 18 years old, and keep that in mind before criticizing or judging any of our players, or any players of opposing teams.

[Lar77]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

I'll add another #5 (although I loved the drinking game): Be happy that we are not using the BCS formula to determine the National Championship. Absent a complete meltdown, we will be there in March, and our track record there is pretty good.

I'll add a #6 as well: Take the Board comments (especially the "suicide watch" ones) in stride. We are Duke fans, we have a great team and program to root for, and it's fun.

[Kathy S]

This thread is way more fun than that IC-ish FSU post game thread. Glad I stopped by today. Well done.

Another suggestion for enjoying the season more -- Never visit the post-game thread after a loss!

[RPS]

5. Don't watch ANY unc games.......ever....no matter what.......try this and you'll be surprised at your quality of life....
There are generally two or three Carolina games per year that I insist on watching. I especially enjoy them when we win.

[The Gordog]

But, to be honest with my fellow Duke bretheren, I have been wishing for the last few years that wojo takes up a head coaching job some where and we replace him with a real big man to coach our big men.

Are you kidding? Do you know anything about how K's system is designed with regards to big men on O and on D? Did you pay any attention to Zoubeck's development? The Landlord's?

This topic has been beaten to death in other threads, so perhaps we can discuss in the offseason, but I really just hope you are kidding.

[PADukeMom]

There are only 2 things that can get me down:

1. Losing to Carolina
2. Losing in March or April

There are positives to be taken from every loss & negavtives to be taken from every win.

[dukelifer]

Has any club won back to back championships without the same core team? That is what folks expect Duke to do this year. Duke has a big target- they are not the same without Irving and every game will be a dogfight. That will wear on a team- and a fan base- even good ones. Duke won a championship that I never thought they would win last year. This year is just a ride (you cannot get greedy with the basketballl gods)- the chances of going back to back are just so small- but if it happens- wow. So enjoy the ride-which could be bumpy- hope the big guys get much better and if Kyrie comes back - Duke will be a tough- tough out. When Duke loses- there always seems to be some changes. I am waiting to see what those will be.

[sagegrouse]

Has any club won back to back championships without the same core team? That is what folks expect Duke to do this year.

I think your question is rhetorical, but the answers are UCLA in 1970 (after Alcindor left) and in 1972 (when Walton arrived).

Duke this year returns four of the top seven players from a year ago.

sagegrouse

[OldPhiKap]

There are only 2 things that can get me down:

1. Losing to Carolina
2. Losing in March or April

There are positives to be taken from every loss & negavtives to be taken from every win.

Rainy days and Mondays always get me down.


That, and the two things you mention.

[HateCarolina]

There are generally two or three Carolina games per year that I insist on watching. I especially enjoy them when we win.

I actually record every one of their games and then when I see the score the next day and they lost (especially the close/last minute losses) I go back and watch it over and over. That boys and girls brings a pleasant warm tingling feeling up from the bottom of my heart.

On the other hand when the jackasses win like last night I immediately delete the recording and get pumped for the next Duke game (hope we punk UVA tomorrow as I grew up in Richmond which is filled with their fans).

[SoCalDukeFan]

I actually record every one of their games and then when I see the score the next day and they lost (especially the close/last minute losses) I go back and watch it over and over. That boys and girls brings a pleasant warm tingling feeling up from the bottom of my heart.

On the other hand when the jackasses win like last night I immediately delete the recording and get pumped for the next Duke game (hope we punk UVA tomorrow as I grew up in Richmond which is filled with their fans).

You are my kind of guy or gal. I hope you have countless hours of viewing.

SoCal

[HateCarolina]

You are my kind of guy or gal. I hope you have countless hours of viewing.

SoCal

It is guy and thanks. I'm hoping that Monday's a good day of DVR watching.

[MartyClark]

I posted something similar last year.

Follow these 4 rules:

1. Do not get too low after a bad game or a loss.
It is a long season. We have a very good team and the best coach.
It is okay to get real low if we lose our last game.

2. Do not get too high after a big win.
It is a long season. There are other very good teams.
It is okay to get real real high if we win our last game.

3. Don't second guess Coach K and staff.
He has coached teams that have won 4 NC. How many Division 1 games have your teams won? He has done this for over 30 years.

4. Don't worry about next year.
It will come soon enough. This year's team is very good and has the potential for a great season. They deserve our complete support.

SoCal

Good post, good comments.

I am greatly enjoying this season. I think a lot of our enjoyment centers on expectations. Last year was the best year ever. After losing Gerald Henderson and Elliott Williams, I did not think we had a chance to win the ACC, let alone the NCAA championship. My expectations were low and the season was spectacular.

I don't think we are a great team without Kyrie. The team is still great to follow. They play hard and are entertaining, even in a loss. I always appreciate the effort and the fact that Duke does things the right way.

I'm a season ticket holder for the University of Colorado football team so I am completely used to losing. I'm also a trial lawyer and know, from bitter experience, that lawyers don't win every case. The occasional Duke loss does not detract from my enjoyment. Two Duke games a week during the season is just great stuff.

[Indoor66]

I'm also a trial lawyer and know, from bitter experience, that lawyers don't win every case.

Speak for yourself! :cool:

[HateCarolina]

Speak for yourself! :cool:

Spoken like a true attorney.

[superdave]

The should be re-titled "The Self-Help Thread".