Virginia is Terrible

[RockyMtDevil]

Virginia just gave UNC a victory after leading by 7 at the half. We are all ACC homers around here but this UVA team couldn't win in the Southern Conference, they have nobody that can get to the rim, zero post players that have any offense and nobody that can finish. They are just awful folks, and sadly they've won some games.

[jv001]

Virginia just gave UNC a victory after leading by 7 at the half. We are all ACC homers around here but this UVA team couldn't win in the Southern Conference, they have nobody that can get to the rim, zero post players that have any offense and nobody that can finish. They are just awful folks, and sadly they've won some games.

What does that say about unc? They could have very easily lost this game. Go Duke!

[devildeac]

What does that say about unc? They could have very easily lost this game. Go Duke!

They get a road W. They build some confidence. I would have been happy with neither:mad:.

[Bluedog]

I didn't see the game, but looking at the play-by-play, 14 of UNC's last 16 points were from the free throw line. And 17 of their 32 for the entire half were free throws! Wow...I mean, maybe UVa was intentionally fouling by that point, I don't know.

UVa shot 12 FTs for the game, by the way. Doesn't sound like either team was very impressive. UNC shot 37% for the game, and 27% from 3. The outrebounded UVa by 7, forced 4 more turnovers, and scored 11 more points from the free throw stripe.

After watching Georgetown and WVU, the ACC seems like a joke. Georgetown is 1-3 in the Big East and would probably be second best in the ACC at this point.

[WiJoe]

Virginia just gave UNC a victory after leading by 7 at the half. We are all ACC homers around here but this UVA team couldn't win in the Southern Conference, they have nobody that can get to the rim, zero post players that have any offense and nobody that can finish. They are just awful folks, and sadly they've won some games.

They're without they're best player and are at a HUGE talent disadvantage. Yet they lead for the majority of the game. Your assessment is more than a tad harsh. The H*les were 8 1/2-point favorites.

[94duke]

Virginia played tough all game. They just couldn't put the ball in the basket. It's hard to win scoring 19 points in the second half.

[ncexnyc]

They're without they're best player and are at a HUGE talent disadvantage. Yet they lead for the majority of the game. Your assessment is more than a tad harsh. The H*les were 8 1/2-point favorites.

It's nice to see someone knows what they're talking about. Mike Scott is indeed UVa's best player and he sat out. Ziggy is still recovering from knee surgery and Sherill has a serious leg injury too. A pretty decent effort overall, against a team that according to some, is the second best in the ACC.

[jdj4duke]

I didn't see the game, but looking at the play-by-play, 14 of UNC's last 16 points were from the free throw line.

I tuned in with about 2 and half minutes left and the game tied. There were three or four very ambiguous calls in a row that went against UVA, and that was that. The last couple FT's were the usual end of game fouls.

UVA though hung in there with two drives right down the lane that brought out the best in matador defense and actually had it back down to 1 or 2 with enough time to win, but too many foul shots went UNC's way.

[94duke]

It's nice to see someone knows what they're talking about. Mike Scott is indeed UVa's best player and he sat out. Ziggy is still recovering from knee surgery and Sherill has a serious leg injury too. A pretty decent effort overall, against a team that according to some, is the second best in the ACC.

Yeah, Sherill was hurting. He was limping back to the bench the whole game. If Virginia had been at full strength, I think they would have won this game.

[BattierD12]

Michigan State just lost to Penn State and K-State is down by 10 with 2 to go against OK state. Preseason #2 and #3 probably won't be ranked next week (or at least they'll be in the 20s). That's just turrible.

[left_hook_lacey]

Virginia just gave UNC a victory after leading by 7 at the half. We are all ACC homers around here but this UVA team couldn't win in the Southern Conference, they have nobody that can get to the rim, zero post players that have any offense and nobody that can finish. They are just awful folks, and sadly they've won some games.

This is a little harsh. VA played well in the first half and actually looked impressive considering what they had to play with today. Sherrell was playing with a broken tibula for God's sake. If they can get back healthy, that team will pull a few upsets this year.

[DukieInBrasil]

This is a little harsh. VA played well in the first half and actually looked impressive considering what they had to play with today. Sherrell was playing with a broken tibula for God's sake. If they can get back healthy, that team will pull a few upsets this year.

What's a tibula? is that a hybrid between the tibia and the fibula? sort of a mutation that fuses the lower leg bones? I feel sorry for him if that's the case...

[CDu]

Michigan State just lost to Penn State and K-State is down by 10 with 2 to go against OK state. Preseason #2 and #3 probably won't be ranked next week (or at least they'll be in the 20s). That's just turrible.

Definitely doesn't do our resume any favors. Those were our signature wins, but now it's looking like maybe those teams were overrated. Thankfully, we should be able load up enough wins in the ACC this year that it won't make any difference in terms of seeding.

[davekay1971]

What's a tibula? is that a hybrid between the tibia and the fibula? sort of a mutation that fuses the lower leg bones? I feel sorry for him if that's the case...

The broken tibula is a very common sports injury. Slightly more common than the dreaded broken fibia. Of course, more often than not these days, athletes simplify things by being out with a leg. Or, as we know at Duke all to well, out with a toe...

NC State finally played 20 solid minutes of basketball. In the first half they did what we've become used to seeing State do: patches of good basketball mixed with patches of sloppy basketball. They surged right before halftime to go into the intermission up 10 but looked disjointed against an obviously weaker Wake Forest team for the majority of the first 20 minutes. In the second half they really took charge and played smart offense and solid defense for the full 20 minutes. At about the 10 minute mark they got sloppy and Lowe called a quick timeout to refocus them, and State never let Wake back in the game.

Smith back in the lineup and healthy makes a world of difference for State. He's a guy that can produce points for them when the streakier freshmen are struggling. He draws enough attention to help open up the perimeter for Wood. He's a beast on the offensive boards.

Harrow and Leslie both took big steps forward today. State has a tough 3 game stretch coming up - road games against FSU and Miami before returning to Raleigh to face Duke. If they can manage to get wins in those road games look out, because they'll be very confident welcoming us to Raleigh. With the amount they depend on Harrow, Brown, and Leslie, confidence is incredibly important to State.

Wake, meanwhile, is going to be overmatched all year long. They might be able to scrape together a few wins against the bottom tier of the conference, but the Pomeroy 2-14 prediction looked about right today.

[Sgt. Dingleberry]

I tuned in with about 2 and half minutes left and the game tied. There were three or four very ambiguous calls in a row that went against UVA, and that was that.

Yeah...there were 2 calls on 2 consecutive possessions that were very questionable and I believe the same zebra whistled both of them. The one that put Knox at the line was a play-on type foul and the one that put Drew on the line was just a bad call. Drew was out of control.

Anyway, both teams did not look good, at all....UVA at least had an excuse without their best player. It seemed to me like UVA got tight in the second half. Nobody was confident in their ability or knew how to score the ball. They also shot the lights out in the first half, a regression of some sort was inevitable.

One thing that really stuck out to me was how well UVA defended Zeller. They doubled him very quickly every time he got the ball in the low post. Zeller was very slow to react and was therefore limited offensively. He did most of his damage on the offensive boards.

[Sgt. Dingleberry]

NC State finally played 20 solid minutes of basketball. In the first half they did what we've become used to seeing State do: patches of good basketball mixed with patches of sloppy basketball.

State has a world of potential. I would not want to play them towards the end of the year or in the tourney when Harrow, Leslie and Brown will essentially be sophomores. There is nothing they really don't have. At some point, you have to bench Gonzalez and let Harrow start. Harrow/Brown/Wood/Leslie/Smith is a very, very good starting 5. The sky is the limit.

No pressure, Sid.

[Devilsfan]

Sounds like someone is trying to set ol Sid up to be fired.

[Sgt. Dingleberry]

Sounds like someone is trying to set ol Sid up to be fired.

Nah...I like the guy and I would keep him around.

However, if State bombs again this year, with all of that talent, I don't know if he will be extended much more patience from the powers that be.

[davekay1971]

Nah...I like the guy and I would keep him around.

However, if State bombs again this year, with all of that talent, I don't know if he will be extended much more patience from the powers that be.

I love the guy, but the general consensus around State-land is that he needs to make the NCAAT, especially with Debbie Yow in charge. Frankly, as talented as his 3 frosh are, it's still a tough job, especially with Tracy Smith's injury, to guide that team to a 10-6 ACC season, which is what I think they need to make the NCAAT. They've got the talent, but it's so young. Consistency is going to be an issue all season.

[Sgt. Dingleberry]

I love the guy, but the general consensus around State-land is that he needs to make the NCAAT, especially with Debbie Yow in charge. Frankly, as talented as his 3 frosh are, it's still a tough job, especially with Tracy Smith's injury, to guide that team to a 10-6 ACC season, which is what I think they need to make the NCAAT. They've got the talent, but it's so young. Consistency is going to be an issue all season.

Right. That coincides with everything I hear as well. However, with the ACC down this year so far, I expect them to make the NCAAT. Smith's injury threw a wrench in expectations, but he is back and looked very strong today. That excuse just reached extinction, unless there is a reinjury....

It is time to produce.

[left_hook_lacey]

What's a tibula? is that a hybrid between the tibia and the fibula? sort of a mutation that fuses the lower leg bones? I feel sorry for him if that's the case...

Ha ha ha. You got me. I was typing faster than my brain was thinkg so I guess some words were fused together. I was being threatened by my better half for not letting the dog out as requested so I was under some heat to get that message sent.

[diveonthefloor]

Regarding the title of this thread.....why in the devil would we want to give UVa any bulletin board material for their locker room?

My gosh, this team is incredibly well coached, significantly injured, and playing as hard as a team can play. If Mike Scott comes back and/or their other key players get healthier, they are going to beat some good teams this year.

[Bob Green]

Regarding the title of this thread.....why in the devil would we want to give UVa any bulletin board material for their locker room?

Because posters love to start new threads and everyone loves to complain when the Mods merge threads. There is no reason for this thread to even exist as the whole discussion could be taking place in the The 2nd best team in the ACC (a group project) (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?23635-The-2nd-best-team-in-the-ACC-%28a-group-project%29) thread.

I really wish posters would look at all the existing threads to see if their "new" topic fits into an ongoing discussion before starting a new thread.

[devildeac]

Because posters love to start new threads and everyone loves to complain when the Mods merge threads. There is no reason for this thread to even exist as the whole discussion could be taking place in the The 2nd best team in the ACC (a group project) (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?23635-The-2nd-best-team-in-the-ACC-%28a-group-project%29) thread.

I really wish posters would look at all the existing threads to see if their "new" topic fits into an ongoing discussion before starting a new thread.

But then we'd have to start a thread/poll titled: The 2nd Worst team in the ACC, a Group Project.:rolleyes:

[cptnflash]

Definitely doesn't do our resume any favors. Those were our signature wins, but now it's looking like maybe those teams were overrated. Thankfully, we should be able load up enough wins in the ACC this year that it won't make any difference in terms of seeding.

Maybe? How about definitely? Pomeroy and Gasaway were all over M & K State both being way overrated from the start of the season. Truth be told, we have no signature wins. We haven't played any of the 20 or so best teams in the country yet. But that changes tomorrow. Never thought I'd be glad to see the Terps, but I'm looking forward to some real competition.

[CDu]

Maybe? How about definitely? Pomeroy and Gasaway were all over M & K State both being way overrated from the start of the season. Truth be told, we have no signature wins. We haven't played any of the 20 or so best teams in the country yet. But that changes tomorrow. Never thought I'd be glad to see the Terps, but I'm looking forward to some real competition.

I was just trying not to spin it too negatively. But yes, KSU and MSU definitely seem to be overrated. I'm still not sold on Maryland yet as one of the top-20 teams in the country As Gasaway notes, their resume is close losses and then beating up on awful teams. Hopefully the Terps won't give me reason to change my opinion tonight.