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Jarhead
04-17-2010, 10:59 AM
I'm thinking that some of you may be interested in this. Michelin apparently has a new tire design that looks simple but might be a big game changer.


These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon. The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips may not work on these. Just think of the impact on us drivers:

A.. no more air valves...
B. no more air compressors at gas stations...
C. no more repair kits....
D. no more flats...

These are actual pictures (http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/michelin_new_tire_design.htm) taken at the South Carolina plant of Michelin. Looks like the wheels on my old bicycle, or my great grandfather's wagon

http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/images/michelin6.jpg
http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/images/michelin3.jpg
http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/images/michelin2.jpg

Indoor66
04-17-2010, 11:45 AM
I saw this before. I can't wait. I think it is a great idea and a big step forward.

camion
04-17-2010, 12:56 PM
I'm thinking that some of you may be interested in this. Michelin apparently has a new tire design that looks simple but might be a big game changer.



These are actual pictures (http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/michelin_new_tire_design.htm) taken at the South Carolina plant of Michelin. Looks like the wheels on my old bicycle, or my great grandfather's wagon

http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/images/michelin1.jpg


That's cool. One thing to note is that the wheel axle should actually be thought of as hanging from the spokes at the top rather than being supported by the spokes at the bottom. If you cut/remove spokes at the bottom nearest the road the wheel still supports the car. If you cut/remove ones at the top things quickly collapse.

DukeUsul
04-17-2010, 01:00 PM
Wonder what those spokes are made of and how much deformity they can experience over time before degrading.

A-Tex Devil
04-17-2010, 02:03 PM
They need a tirewall. Even if just for cosmetic purposes. They are butt ugly.

Jarhead
04-17-2010, 02:56 PM
They need a tirewall. Even if just for cosmetic purposes. They are butt ugly.

I've been wondering if the spoke-like construction has some cooling function. Supportive sidewalls perhaps would look better, though, but I like the idea. I have a neighbor who retired from Goodyear some years ago. He thinks that Goodyear may be looking at a similar idea at their Fayetteville, NC plant.

Indoor66
04-17-2010, 04:00 PM
They need a tirewall. Even if just for cosmetic purposes. They are butt ugly.

I regard to aesthetics, they do look like they were designed by the British.

BD80
04-17-2010, 05:40 PM
I regard to aesthetics, they do look like they were designed by the British.

You mean a British orthodontist?

Yeah Baby! Shagadelic!

Indoor66
04-17-2010, 07:34 PM
You mean a British orthodontist?

Yeah Baby! Shagadelic!

Actually, I mean the typical British minimalist styling.

Dukiedevil
04-18-2010, 09:40 AM
cool design, but there are some issues to work out before it would be a feasible solution. You would have to seal the sides of the tire to keep mud and debris out as even a small amount of mud or a rock could severely throw off the balance of a tire.

Highlander
04-18-2010, 02:14 PM
Wonder what those spokes are made of and how much deformity they can experience over time before degrading.

You would have made a great MEMS pirate roberts. Too bad you were brainwashed into a physics degree. ;)

BD80
04-18-2010, 06:43 PM
cool design, but there are some issues to work out before it would be a feasible solution. You would have to seal the sides of the tire to keep mud and debris out as even a small amount of mud or a rock could severely throw off the balance of a tire.

I don't know, angle the "spokes" like propeller or fan blades, and you could "shoot" debris out from the wheels - adding excitement to the journey of nearby pedestrians and cars in neighboring lanes. The design might make it interesting when going through puddles or snow - an immediate dampening when the spokes encounter resistance.

It is an interesting concept, probably geared to electric cars and hybrids. Doubt you'll see it on a Humvee any time soon.

FireOgilvie
04-18-2010, 10:36 PM
It is an interesting concept, probably geared to electric cars and hybrids. Doubt you'll see it on a Humvee any time soon.

It's funny you say that; they were actually made for the Humvee.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/airless-humvee-tires-11182324/

BD80
04-19-2010, 12:08 AM
It's funny you say that; they were actually made for the Humvee.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/airless-humvee-tires-11182324/

Same concept, completely different design:

http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/images/michelin3.jpg

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/airless-tire.jpg

I like the idea, substantially bulletproof, basically disposible design. I do wonder how they will perform in water, mud or sand that enters the lattice.

hurleyfor3
04-19-2010, 09:07 AM
OK, so maintenance is cheaper, they use less material and might last longer. Any word on potential improvements in fuel economy? (I'd think fuel economy would at least be more consistent as there's no worry about keeping them inflated to X psi.) Do they offer better performance?

DukeUsul
04-19-2010, 11:36 AM
You would have made a great MEMS pirate roberts. Too bad you were brainwashed into a physics degree. ;)

Errr, I'll take that as a compliment, I guess. :D

Jarhead
04-19-2010, 11:22 PM
It's funny you say that; they were actually made for the Humvee.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/airless-humvee-tires-11182324/

Thanks for the video. It was enlightening. The comment at the end of the video wasn't that good to hear, though. They said that we cannot expect to see the tire on the market for at least 10 to 15 years. What's the holdup? The release date of the video was May 14, 2008, so presumably that wait time is 8 to 13 years. If these tires have anything to offer to safe driving and economy we should have them now. My 23 year old GMC S-15 is in need of new tires, now. Maybe I can get a set early when they start their beta testing.

Indoor66
04-20-2010, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the video. It was enlightening. The comment at the end of the video wasn't that good to hear, though. They said that we cannot expect to see the tire on the market for at least 10 to 15 years. What's the holdup? The release date of the video was May 14, 2008, so presumably that wait time is 8 to 13 years. If these tires have anything to offer to safe driving and economy we should have them now. My 23 year old GMC S-15 is in need of new tires, now. Maybe I can get a set early when they start their beta testing.

Run down to Fayetteville and volunteer for a road test! It isn't too far away.

Jarhead
04-20-2010, 03:53 PM
Run down to Fayetteville and volunteer for a road test! It isn't too far away.
I don't trust my truck to go any farther than the golf course, the barber shop, Lowes, a semi-annual trip to the gas station, and periodic trips to the health center for a workout. It's been to Fayetteville which is about 45 miles away. Guess I'll have to wait until the Buick needs tires.