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Troublemaker
03-14-2010, 05:32 PM
Put selection show thoughts here as it happens.

We will, of course, be chatting as well: http://www.snrub.com/

Troublemaker
03-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Here we go! I'll be putting up regional threads as the show proceeds. Kansas overall #1

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:03 PM
Third #1!!! Wow!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:03 PM
Hell Ya, we jumped Syracuse.

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:04 PM
I don't agree with Duke over Syracuse, but I will take it.

juise
03-14-2010, 06:04 PM
Duke gets all the calls. :rolleyes:

slower
03-14-2010, 06:05 PM
Let the HATE begin. People will go nuts about this. Let's see who our #2 is. ;)

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:05 PM
Stick a sock in it,Anthony

Classof06
03-14-2010, 06:06 PM
I'd be SHOCKED if WVU wasn't our #2 seed; I think the committee owes them that chance.

Andre Buckner Fan
03-14-2010, 06:06 PM
If Syracuse hadn't gone out in the first round we would have been fourth for sure... but I'll take it!!

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
Houston, baby! Need to win that 8/9 game in second round. I am going to go ahead and count my chickens on the first round.

The only objective way Syracuse should have been ranked ahead of us is losses. I don't see anything wrong with us jumping them. None.

DukeGirl4ever
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
I do NOT like Joe Lunardi's bracket that had us out West with Notre Dame, Tennessee and WVU.

Those are NOT good match-ups for us!

flyingdutchdevil
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
I don't agree with Duke over Syracuse, but I will take it.

ditto. Happy to be in Houston rather than SLC, though.

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
Stick a sock in it,Anthony.

The Orange lost their last reg and didnt win a single Tourne game.Onaraku is done for the year.

Duke was the CLEAR choice as the third #1. Its not even close

dcarp23
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
Syracuse has to draw Ohio State or Kansas State. Assuming that West Virginia is more highly ranked than KState, Duke will draw them. Right?

Further, if West Virginia was ahead of Ohio State, Duke would have drawn them as the 4th number one any way.

GoingFor#5
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
I agree that we should be the 3rd #1. In fact, I would like to see a rule (will never happen) that if you don't win your conference tourney, you don't get a 1 seed (unless there are 2 1 seeds from your conference). I'm sick of seeing these teams fall like dominoes in conference tourneys and then these "analysts" come to their defense based on a "body of work," ignoring the heart and determination of teams that go for banners. Conference tourneys are NOT exhibition games.

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
I'd be SHOCKED if WVU wasn't our #2 seed; I think the committee owes them that chance.

I actually doubt it; WVU had to be #5 on the S-curve.

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:07 PM
I think this is great news not only for Duke but the ACC Tournament as well. People on this board were questioning the importance of the ACC Tourney...and this clearly shows that it's still important. Great Job Committee and Seth Davis can suck it!

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:10 PM
I dont want WVU or Kstate

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:12 PM
I dont want WVU or Kstate

I do.

GoingFor#5
03-14-2010, 06:12 PM
I hope we get Purdue and we have a decent shot at that I would think.

Merlindevildog91
03-14-2010, 06:12 PM
about going to Spokane?

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:13 PM
why?

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:13 PM
Tough draw for Maryland potentially getting Izzo and MSU in the second round.

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:13 PM
Kansas is getting hosed, that is a tough bracket.

dcarp23
03-14-2010, 06:13 PM
Syracuse has to draw Ohio State or Kansas State. Assuming that West Virginia is more highly ranked than KState, Duke will draw them. Right?

Further, if West Virginia was ahead of Ohio State, Duke would have drawn them as the 4th number one any way.

Forget my logic as Ohio State draws the 8

Andre Buckner Fan
03-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Kansas is getting hosed, that is a tough bracket.

That's a scary bracket. I agree.

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:15 PM
I had Georgetown as a 2, besides west virginia and Kansas state who else could be a number 2?

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:15 PM
Yeah, I don't see what Seth and Greg are talking about being that it would be a easy road for Kansas!

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Georgetown falls to a 3, Joey brackets had them as a 2. Not sure who the last 2 is going to be. Purdue? I imagine K-State is going to be matched up with Syracuse out West.

GoingFor#5
03-14-2010, 06:16 PM
I had Georgetown as a 2, besides west virginia and Kansas state who else could be a number 2?

Is Purdue still a 2? Send 'em South!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Tennessee is one scary 6 seed. They can beat anyone on a hot night.

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 06:17 PM
That's a scary bracket. I agree.

Nah, getting hosed would be getting Georgetown as your #4 seed. I actually like Kansas's draw; I think Michigan State gives them a game but that they match up well against Georgetown.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:18 PM
The other 2s have to be Purdue, WVU and K-State, right? How was OhSt the 8 seed (edited -- at best they were the 7)? Wow....

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:19 PM
damn...scratch vandy

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:20 PM
we dodged a bullet in KSU i see

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Florida is a 10 seed???

slower
03-14-2010, 06:20 PM
WVU as our 2

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Mid Majors are getting low seeds. Maybe we get UNM as our 2/3?

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:21 PM
UK gets purdue...we get WVU

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Yeah, the Wildcats will get Purdue.

CAT Blue Devil
03-14-2010, 06:21 PM
GTown or WV? Which one goes to the East?

DukeGirl4ever
03-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Tennessee is one scary 6 seed. They can beat anyone on a hot night.

Heck yea! Glad they are not in our bracket as predicted. Now, let's avoid ND who I think is playing good ball and would not be good for us in a 2nd round match-up!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:21 PM
So how does Kansas get a tougher bracket than Syracuse?

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 06:22 PM
Ugh, without even seeing our region, I'd trade places with Syracuse in a heartbeat. That is a very weak region.

CAT Blue Devil
03-14-2010, 06:22 PM
GTown already in MW.

OldSchool
03-14-2010, 06:23 PM
I gotta think that if Minnesota is in, then the Fighting Seth Greenbergs of Va Tech are out.

We shall soon see.

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:23 PM
Of the teams still out there, I would really like to avoid Wisconsin and Villanova...I think we have proven that teams that can spread us out give us trouble.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:25 PM
We'll get WVU as 2. Nova is 3 in the non-WVU region for sure. So, I bet our 3 is UNM.

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:26 PM
WVU actually looks like a good match up for Duke on paper...
Yes they are big but so are we.

They don't have great guard play

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:26 PM
Texas with Kentucky....wow!

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:26 PM
Ouch for Kentucky with a potential sleeping giant of Texas at 8

Chard
03-14-2010, 06:27 PM
Just watching this show and the excitement from the teams and fans gives me chills.

Woo-hoo! Duke as the #3 in the South. Awesome!

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:27 PM
woaowo! we dodged it!!!!

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
No WVU!!!!!! That means Nova or Purdue

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Are we getting Purdue!!!!LOL

mlove3
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
were getting purdue!!!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Yes, we might get Purdue as our number 2.

slower
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
whew!

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:28 PM
wow, It's gotta be Purdue and Villanova as our 2/3...in what order is anyones guess. Could certainly be worse, but I hate a potential rematch with Villanova in the Elite 8.

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:29 PM
we dodged WVU yes tytyty


but we draw nova...

DukeGirl4ever
03-14-2010, 06:29 PM
Where are you guys getting this info so fast!


PLEASE NO NOVA!!!!

cbnaylor
03-14-2010, 06:29 PM
WOW I can't wait to see what Seth thinks about Duke getting Purdue. LOL

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:30 PM
getting purdue won't matter b/c no way do they make it to the elight eight.

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Baylor as our 4 I guess. Don't know much about them honestly.

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Nova is going to be our 4....gotta hate that

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Nova may be the 2 seed. Doubt it, but it might be.

We are getting Baylor or A&M in the 4/5 spot. Curious who the other team will be.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:32 PM
Nova is going to be our 4....gotta hate that

I will be shocked if Nova isn't a 3 seed.

And I really hope Texas A&M is the 6 seed in the lower half and can cause some havoc.

Greg_Newton
03-14-2010, 06:32 PM
I care infinitely more about our 4/5 seeds than our 2/3 seeds. Baylor could be a dangerous S16 matchup, but I guess you've gotta play somebody...

Atlanta Duke
03-14-2010, 06:32 PM
Look for Notre Dame as a #8 or #9 seed in the South

Potential K v. Mike Brey match-up next weekend

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:32 PM
notre dame is a terrible matchup for us...

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 06:32 PM
Just cross your fingers that Nova is our #3. Kentucky got an absolutely brutal draw. Texas or Wake in the second round... wow. Then likely Wisconsin, and WVU. Again, I'm betting we'd be willing to trade places with Syracuse, but no way with UK.

DukeGirl4ever
03-14-2010, 06:33 PM
notre dame is a terrible matchup for us...

I totally agree - I was hoping to avoid this!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:33 PM
Is VaTech going to get hosed? They are clearly deserving in my opinion but many don't share that view.

Newton_14
03-14-2010, 06:33 PM
I think Nova will be the 3 seed..

does Va Tech get screwed here and not get in?

Cockabeau
03-14-2010, 06:35 PM
cali and the ville are weak

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:35 PM
I hate that 8/9. Both of them.

How do we get the play-in? Why wouldn't KU get that game? I hate that.

Aggies are tough in sweer 16.

VaTech is out for sure.

Purdue's seed sunk, huh?

Baylor is going to get a 3!!

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:35 PM
louisville would be tough. purdue is the 4.

chrisheery
03-14-2010, 06:35 PM
Does that make us the #1 overall seed? Because we are playing the playing game team? That seems crazy, can't be true.

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 06:37 PM
Oh, my. Louisville in round 2. Ouch. Can't believe Purdue got bumped all the way down to a #4.

EDIT: How the heck do Marquette and Louisville, which both finished 11-7 in the BE, get seeded #6 and #9? Louisville beat Syracuse twice and ends up as a #9 seed... Yeah, Seth Davis, Duke has the easiest road for sure. Stupid.

slower
03-14-2010, 06:38 PM
Baylor's the #3

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:38 PM
i hope Cal wins that first round game.

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Not too bad of a draw all things considered. I would rather have WVU over Villanova, but Purdue as a 4 is great. Lousiville is a little scary I guess, but all the 8/9s can be scary...

Classof06
03-14-2010, 06:39 PM
If Duke gets by Louisville, I think we do major damage..

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Houston may not be so good for us. We could theoretically play Texas A&M and Baylor back to back.

DU82
03-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Does that make us the #1 overall seed? Because we are playing the playing game team? That seems crazy, can't be true.

They always give the play-in teams a Friday/Sunday sub-regional. I believe Kansas is playing Thursday/Saturday.

jipops
03-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Crap, this was my worst fear, possibly getting Lousville in the 2nd round. This is a terrible, terrible matchup for us. If I were not biased I'd be picking Louisville for the upset right there. Hopefully Cal will take care of them.

Classof06
03-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Duke got the draw of an overall #1 seed...

BigZ
03-14-2010, 06:41 PM
In terms of the top 4 seeds Duke has the easiest bracket. Purdue and Nova have basically fallen of the planet. I am kind of scared of Louisville but I believe we could get by them.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:42 PM
So on the S curve, the committee had Nova over WVU. Conference tourneys must not mean much.

RoyalBlue08
03-14-2010, 06:43 PM
Crap, this was my worst fear, possibly getting Lousville in the 2nd round. This is a terrible, terrible matchup for us. If I were not biased I'd be picking Louisville for the upset right there. Hopefully Cal will take care of them.

Louisville is going to press us, and that can always be an adventure, but they should have a difficult time scoring against us in the half court.

chrisheery
03-14-2010, 06:43 PM
Louisville is a weird team because they are way better now than they were to start the year. I'm scared of them, but we have beaten a similar team (clemson) easily twice this year. That makes me feel a bit better about it.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 06:43 PM
Louisville is going to press us, and that can always be an adventure, but they should have a difficult time scoring against us in the half court.

If they press us too much we'll beat them. This Duke team is the best at breaking the press that I can remember.

Clemson/Missouri may have 60 turnovers in that game.

Andre Buckner Fan
03-14-2010, 06:46 PM
Florida over VA Tech?

Otherwise not a bad job by the committee.

3rd Dukie
03-14-2010, 06:49 PM
i hope Cal wins that first round game.

I think there is a very good chance they will beat Louisville.
I've seen the Bears play a number of games this season (on TV) and am impressed with them. Jerome Randle and Boykin are both having very good seasons.

I also expect Baylor to beat 'Nova in our region.

Dukeface88
03-14-2010, 06:52 PM
So on the S curve, the committee had Nova over WVU. Conference tourneys must not mean much.

Then why'd we get a higher seed than Syracuse?

On a side note, how did we get three Big East teams?

Osiagledknarf
03-14-2010, 06:53 PM
I love this brackett for us.

We avoid teams like Georgetown, Marquette, Michigan State, OK state, Wisconsin, Ohio State etc...

Nova and Notre Dame are the only teams that worry me here.

I think this sets up PERFECTLY for us to make it to the final four.


Not much concern here.

jipops
03-14-2010, 06:56 PM
Louisville is going to press us, and that can always be an adventure, but they should have a difficult time scoring against us in the half court.

My concern is defending them. They play 4 out 1 in which is the same as both GTown and NC State have played against us. And we were dominated in those games.

Overall, I think we got a great draw for a region. I just don't like the possible 2nd round matchup at all.

muzikfrk75
03-14-2010, 06:57 PM
That potential Duke-Louisville matchup is a doozy.

monkey
03-14-2010, 07:00 PM
Freaking Nova again? Argh.

BlueintheFace
03-14-2010, 07:00 PM
aside from the 2nd round matchup, I think K might have some pictures of committee members. We made out like bandits. Now we just need to prove it on the court.

chrisheery
03-14-2010, 07:02 PM
How in the world does Wake get into the tournament and Va Tech did not? Who would you rather play? I think every team in the country would rather play Wake. They are just terrible.

chrisheery
03-14-2010, 07:03 PM
I'm gonna miss Luther Vandross, but Jennifer Hudson will be acceptable as an alternative while watching Kyle, Jon and Nolan cut down the nets.

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 07:08 PM
How in the world does Wake get into the tournament and Va Tech did not? Who would you rather play? I think every team in the country would rather play Wake. They are just terrible.

Somebody needs to tell Seth Greenberg Einstein's definition of insanity. You want to play in the tournament, schedule somebody out of conference - period.

Virginia Tech also played the an easy ACC schedule, going 0-2 against Duke and Maryland. Wake beat Maryland, and had nonconference wins over Gonzaga, Xavier, and Richmond, who made the field of 64.

Bluedevil114
03-14-2010, 07:08 PM
How in the world does Wake get into the tournament and Va Tech did not? Who would you rather play? I think every team in the country would rather play Wake. They are just terrible.

I just gained a lot of respect for Seth Greenberg. He had a chance to really slam the committee and chose not to. He had a chance to pick on Wake or a team like Florida but did not.

AZLA
03-14-2010, 07:10 PM
Agreed -- wow -- Seth Greenberg really impressed me with a classy response on ESPN giving his reaction to being left out of the Tourney. Setting up clear criteria going into a selection process is a valid point.

chrisheery
03-14-2010, 07:11 PM
I hear you, but just look at those two teams and how they finished the year. Wake looked awful for the last three weeks.

BD80
03-14-2010, 07:13 PM
Baylor will be a tough match-up in Houston. Baylor doesn't even have to travel far in the first round (New Orleans).

We don't play until Friday, which gives us more time to rest. Works against Louisville, who haven't played a game since Wednesday, when they lost to Cincinnati.

I don't mind Cal as the 8, and hope they beat Louisville. ND got hosed in our bracket, doubt we get to see them and that is good. They pass well and would give us trouble with pick and rolls, we don't recover fast enough.

Texas against Kentucky in the SECOND ROUND? You think the committee is setting Calimari up for an early exit? I will bet there were some evil laughs when they did that!

JohnGalt
03-14-2010, 07:14 PM
You gotta love those selections. I'm not sure we could have hoped for much better...Louisville and Baylor are a little scary, but other than that...bring on NOVA again...I'd love a rematch

OldSchool
03-14-2010, 07:17 PM
Agreed -- wow -- Seth Greenberg really impressed me with a classy response on ESPN giving his reaction to being left out of the Tourney. Setting up clear criteria going into a selection process is a valid point.

Everyone has known for a couple of years now that if you decide that in your OOC schedule you are only going to play the little sisters of the poor, that is going to cost you on selection Sunday.

That was classy of Seth not to dump on another team that he might think should be left out.

El_Diablo
03-14-2010, 07:21 PM
So on the S curve, the committee had Nova over WVU. Conference tourneys must not mean much.

I doubt it. WVU was probably higher, and went to the closer region (Syracuse) over the farther region (Houston).

Andre Buckner Fan
03-14-2010, 07:26 PM
That was extremely classy of Seth Greenberg not to take it out on another team. VT players can take it out on the NIT.

I think VT is the only team that has a legit gripe. (Maybe Miss. State because they DID win their conference championship, they just got hosed by the refs.)

Illinois just wasn't good enough.

3rd Dukie
03-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Baylor is the team in our region I fear most.
They are incredibly athletic. Aside from Baylor, I like our chances very much.

AZLA
03-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Everyone has known for a couple of years now that if you decide that in your OOC schedule you are only going to play the little sisters of the poor, that is going to cost you on selection Sunday.

Funny and good point ... although I admit, I wasn't aware of VT's OOC. Bilas just nailed that point home as well. Perhaps VT needs to get a better travel agent? The expansion argument was hilarious when Knight asked if Carolina would be like the 96th team in. Too funny.

A-Tex Devil
03-14-2010, 07:36 PM
I doubt it. WVU was probably higher, and went to the closer region (Syracuse) over the farther region (Houston).

They aren't supposed to do that for regionals (just the pods). If the brackets are done like the tourney claims they are, the top 8 was:

KU
UK
Duke
Syr

If Duke is supposed to get a better 2 than Kentucky, then the committee had Nova higher.

Chitowndevil
03-14-2010, 07:45 PM
Did anybody hear Bob Knight's comment on the selection committee? Basically he questioned the basketball expertise of people on the committee. Pretty harsh. I initially attributed it to his usual snarkiness, but then I started to wonder. The committee is obviously making decisions requiring a lot of specialized knowledge. For example, how good is Purdue without Robbie Hummel? How good is Syracuse of Orinze Onuaku can't play? Given the committee is made up mostly of folks on the administrative side (ADs, etc) are they really any more qualified than you or I to make such evaluations? (well, yes, but for the sake of argument...)

buzz
03-14-2010, 07:53 PM
Not generally a fan of his, but Dickie V had a classic line tonight when talking about the insanity of the bubble discussion if they expanded to a field of 96. "Would Connecticut be #97, would UNC be #97?" Hubert was squirming. Loved it.

Newton_14
03-14-2010, 08:15 PM
I know lots of folks here hate Va Tech but in my opinion they got royally screwed today. For one, their OOC schedule was not as bad as people are making it out to be. I know the RPI was low there, but in fairness to Seth, he scheduled several BCS teams that are normally good enough to be in the top 100 but ended up having down years unexpectedly. He cannot control that. He also chose to play a couple of the weaker teams at their place for a true road game rather than staying at home.

And unbalanced schedule or not, they still finished 3rd in the ACC, and even though they lost their 1st round ACC Tourney game, it went to the wire, and the ACC teams below them that made the Big Dance all lost their 1st Rd ACC Tourney games as well with the exception of Ga. Tech.

There is no way Wake should be in over Va Tech. I think putting Florida in over them was really bad too.

I missed the interview but good for Seth that he handled the snub with class.

I agree with Bobby Knight, get these administrators off of the committee and put people on their that truly understand basketball. It should be made up of former coaches with maybe a few AD's or even retired refs...

El_Diablo
03-14-2010, 08:19 PM
They aren't supposed to do that for regionals (just the pods). If the brackets are done like the tourney claims they are, the top 8 was:

KU
UK
Duke
Syr

If Duke is supposed to get a better 2 than Kentucky, then the committee had Nova higher.

No. If you have ESPN iNsider, I recommend you go back and read Lunardi's article about geography and seeding from about two weeks ago. If you don't have iNsider, then take my poor man's explanation, which was also covered in the "bid for the No. 1 seed" thread at length:

Geography matters for s-curve seeding, and will take precedence so long as the regions remain relatively balanced overall and there are no early conference clashes. It's not a snake-style seeding process, despite the common belief. The committee goes down the 1-seeds and places based on geography, which would look like this:

1. Kansas - St. Louis
2. Kentucky - Syracuse
3. Duke - Houston
4. Syracuse - SLC

Then the two seeds:

5. WVU - Syracuse
6. Ohio State - St. Louis
7. Villanova - Houston
8. Kansas State - SLC

The fact that WVU is going to Syracuse is strong evidence that they had a higher s-rating than Villanova, regardless of which 1-seed either seed is paired with. If Villanova were higher, they would have been rewarded with the closer region.

At least, according to Joe Lunardi's explanation of the committee's method... :)

BD80
03-14-2010, 08:21 PM
Not generally a fan of his, but Dickie V had a classic line tonight when talking about the insanity of the bubble discussion if they expanded to a field of 96. "Would Connecticut be #97, would UNC be #97?" Hubert was squirming. Loved it.

What seeds did unc and uCon get? Which bracket?

I'm looking but I can't find them.

Maybe if I stop laughing it will be easier.

OldSchool
03-14-2010, 08:49 PM
What seeds did unc and uCon get? Which bracket?

I'm looking but I can't find them.

Maybe if I stop laughing it will be easier.

I know the problem - you're watching the wrong show! See ESPNU at 9 pm eastern.

Will UNC be the VaTech of the NIT? Will Roy be as classy as Seth if he is left out?

striker219
03-14-2010, 08:50 PM
What seeds did unc and uCon get? Which bracket?

I'm looking but I can't find them.

Maybe if I stop laughing it will be easier.

NIT bracket is announced at 9:00.
:D

GoingFor#5
03-14-2010, 08:55 PM
Wow Gottlieb has a '91 rematch with KU-Duke....and, shocking, Bilas takes Nova over Duke, soooo surprised

JBDuke
03-14-2010, 08:58 PM
Now that the selection show is over and we have a thread for discussion of each region, I'm going to go ahead and close this one. If anyone has a good reason to re-open it, let me know via PM.