Adding fuel to the fire at the UNC game (Feb 10)

[jimrowe0]

According to sources, Tyler Hansbrough will be having his jersey retired at our game against UNC on Feb 10th. I can't for that game...and his face at the end of it.

[mehmattski]

According to sources, Tyler Hansbrough will be having his jersey retired at our game against UNC on Feb 10th. I can't for that game...and his face at the end of it.

I'm surprised that Danny Green, Bobby Frasor, and Quentin Thomas aren't also getting their jerseys retired.

[cbnaylor]

Roy will almost try anything to get his boys fired up for Duke.......why don't they just bring back all the players from the 100 years of basketball. :)

[moonpie23]

let's just keep a lid on it....win the game and walk out like we've been there..

[Wheat/"/"/"]

If Hansbrough is anywhere in the building, the odds just went up on a UNC win.
:)

[DukeUsul]

If Hansbrough is anywhere in the building, the odds just went up on a UNC win.
:)

Yeah, I'm sure Daniel Ewing will be called for fouling him before the tip. :D

[Exiled_Devil]

let's just keep a lid on it....win the game and walk out like we've been there..

But the team hasn't been there much lately.

[duke4life32182]

I agree, win the game and act like its any other game. Would make UNC fans very angry.

[aro24]

Yeah, I'm sure Daniel Ewing will be called for fouling him before the tip. :D

I am guessing he will prob show up in the box score with 15pts, 10rebs and will take a minimum 8 free throws.

A-Ro24

[airowe]

We should bring Gerald with us.

I hop Hansbrough gets to sit down low. The altitude in the nose-bleed (no pun intended ;)) sections of the dome could wreak havoc on that inner ear infection.

[cbnaylor]

Maybe Andre Buckner can make an special visit as well....I hear he has a sick push.

[oldnavy]

Roy will almost try anything to get his boys fired up for Duke.......why don't they just bring back all the players from the 100 years of basketball. :)

I think this will be a tactical mistake. The pressure of this game is enough without having the added pressure of winning one for the "Beaker". UNC has had a difficult time finding an identity this year, and having Hansblah watching will just magnify that for a team that is struggling with their confidence. Besides, I suppose Hansblah will give the motivational pre-game speech. I can just imagine it now, he walks up to the front of the locker room and shouts… :eek: WOW!! Sending the tarholes into frenzy!!

Perfect!

[flyingdutchdevil]

When we retired JJ, we lost that game as well. As a CC in attendance at the time, I was gutted. I want those baby blue £$%& to feel the same thing...

[buckshot]

What I think is really lame is how UNC will "honor" a player's jersey, which is less symbolic than retiring. There are some questionable numbers flying around in the dean dump that were, fwiw, good players, but not good enough to have their jerseys hanging up. I can see that it gives the "impression" that there is a lot more history in this program, when it really just demonstrates the lack of standards to get your jersey "honored". Hansbrough deserves his number retired, but I have to question Ellington, Lawson, McCants, Forte, Haywood, etc having their jersey “honored”.

[Olympic Fan]

let's just keep a lid on it....win the game and walk out like we've been there..

Actually, most of these guys have been there before -- Scheyer, Thomas and Zoubek were sophomores and Singler and Smith were freshmen in 2008 when Duke beat UNC 89-78 in the Smith Center.

As for Hansbrough, his Duke-UNC experience is interesting. UNC fans like to make a lot out his 4-0 record in Cameron, which IS excellent, but they rarely point out that he was a mere 2-2 against Duke in the Smith Center.

Interesting that Duke has had a lot of success (and a winning record) in Chapel Hill in this decade -- winning every even year (2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 ... 2010?). Duke also won in 2001 -- routing UNC in the finale to force a tie for the regular season title. With a win in 1999, Duke is 7-4 in its last 11 trips to the Smith Center.

Who has the edge in the rivalry? It depends on what time-frame you use. UNC leads 130-97 overall. Duke leads 14-9 in this decade. UNC leads 5-2 over the last three seasons, including the last three in a row.

One last interesting fact: Duke, which had almost no luck in Carmichael (2-18), is 12-14 all-time in the Smith Center -- 10-14 against UNC, 2-0 in the 1988 NCAA Tournament.

[elvis14]

I wonder if they'll bring in some referee jerseys to hang next to Hansblahblah's. I really hope we win this game. I'm pretty much keeping quiet on UNC's struggles until we play them.

[Kfanarmy]

According to sources, Tyler Hansbrough will be having his jersey retired at our game against UNC on Feb 10th. I can't for that game...and his face at the end of it.

Its good he gets to travel to a game, instead of in one, for a change.

[Son of Mojo]

I think this will be a tactical mistake. The pressure of this game is enough without having the added pressure of winning one for the "Beaker". UNC has had a difficult time finding an identity this year, and having Hansblah watching will just magnify that for a team that is struggling with their confidence. Besides, I suppose Hansblah will give the motivational pre-game speech. I can just imagine it now, he walks up to the front of the locker room and shouts… :eek: WOW!! Sending the tarholes into frenzy!!

Perfect!

Are you sure it would be a shout and not a series of meeps?

[fgb]

they should retire the jersey of the chapel hill officer who gave lawson the dwi.

[shoutingncu]

Who has the edge in the rivalry? It depends on what time-frame you use. UNC leads 130-97 overall. Duke leads 14-9 in this decade. UNC leads 5-2 over the last three seasons, including the last three in a row.

This is the only time-frame that Duke leads. The 2000's were the first decade Duke ever won head-to-head.

That being said, it's certainly an intriguing choice in games for the ceremony. I agree that the pressure on the team is already going to be pretty strong, and this added emotion likely won't help.

Has this rumor been confirmed? I had heard earlier (albeit through IC chatter) that the ceremony was to be during the NC State game.

[dukegirlinsc]

He will find a way to score 20+ points in free throws.

[Duvall]

they should retire the jersey of the chapel hill officer who gave lawson the dwi.

Honor it, at least. He certainly did more for UNC basketball than Brendan Haywood ever did.

[Olympic Fan]

This is the only time-frame that Duke leads. The 2000's were the first decade Duke ever won head-to-head.


Buzzzz ... thanks for playing.

Duke also won the 1930s (12-10), the 1960s (14-13) ... and the 1950s were dead even (14-14).

[dukestheheat]

If Hansbrough is anywhere in the building, the odds just went up on a UNC win.
:)

....that stuff, but dude, we are going to be super-stoked for that game over there. You DO know that, right? And, Dukies get to channel Shane Battier for that game, so you guys are doubly-hosed.

dth.

[shoutingncu]

Buzzzz ... thanks for playing.

Duke also won the 1930s (12-10), the 1960s (14-13) ... and the 1950s were dead even (14-14).

Wow, I completely mis-remembered reading the decades thing in Blue Blood. I could have sworn at the time it was written during the decade, the numbers were already locked in Duke's favor and it was notable as a first.

I was, indeed, wrong.

As penance...

Good luck tonight versus the 'Noles.

[-bdbd]

Are you sure it would be a shout and not a series of meeps?

Thanks Mojo! Serious LOL!!!
'probably would be his reaction if G. Henderson did in fact show up at the game!


If Hansbrough is anywhere in the building, the odds just went up on a UNC win.
:)

Well, Wheat, the only thing that goes up with him there would be the likelihood North Carolina at Chapel Hill starting the game with a 7-foul-call advantage over the guys in the non-wimpy shade of blue unis. Personally, I really like the idea of this to put even extra pressure on the current, already-overachieving bunch of heels.

Should be a really enjoyable game. And Duke's win will take University of Chapel Hill under .500 for games there against Duke while TH is in the house... :D


Absolutely looking forward to it. :p

[sandinmyshoes]

I doubt there was much targeting of the Duke game when UNC set this up. It probably had more to do with Hansbrough's NBA schedule matching up with a UNC game. Of course, if they had known he was going to have an inner ear infection they could have picked from a number of games. That infection thing side lining him reminds me of the way the germs took down the Martians in War of the Worlds.

[DevilWolf]

Do we have any ninjas who read this board? It would be the most epic prank ever if when they pull the cord to drop his number from the rafters, it's on a referee shirt.

[dukegirlinsc]

Do we have any ninjas who read this board? It would be the most epic prank ever if when they pull the cord to drop his number from the rafters, it's on a referee shirt.

I'm almost willing to risk going to jail to do this. Let me brush up my tightroping skills.

[Wheat/"/"/"]

Well, Wheat, the only thing that goes up with him there would be the likelihood North Carolina at Chapel Hill starting the game with a 7-foul-call advantage over the guys in the non-wimpy shade of blue unis. Personally, I really like the idea of this to put even extra pressure on the current, already-overachieving bunch of heels.

Should be a really enjoyable game. And Duke's win will take University of Chapel Hill under .500 for games there against Duke while TH is in the house... :D


Absolutely looking forward to it. :p

I'm looking forward to it too.

After all the trash talk around here, a victory this year will be extra sweet.

And I've got to say it...all the continued whining about the refs and HansheOwnedU :) is pretty funny. I can't think of anything in college hoops that makes a fan look worse more than crying about the refs...time after time after time... (Whining about injuries come in a close second...Hey, it's a team game!).
It's OK in my mind to point out a particular play/call, but it's pretty rare that an entire game, much less a career, is decided by the refs.
Teams have to adjust to the play the refs are calling, it's part of the game.

(Ex: Duke's win against Wake this season. That was a poorly called game, terrible, everybody should have fouled out, but I was impressed that Duke made the adjustment and played tougher and took the game from Wake.)

I could cry all day about all the moving screens that Duke sets, and the push offs, and the shoulder bumps to create space with the dribble, and the defensive hand checks, and....

Oops! Excuse me, I need a tissue...
:)

[DukieInKansas]

I'm looking forward to it too.

After all the trash talk around here, a victory this year will be extra sweet.

And I've got to say it...all the continued whining about the refs and HansheOwnedU :) is pretty funny. I can't think of anything in college hoops that makes a fan look worse more than crying about the refs...time after time after time... (Whining about injuries come in a close second...Hey, it's a team game!).
It's OK in my mind to point out a particular play/call, but it's pretty rare that an entire game, much less a career, is decided by the refs.
Teams have to adjust to the play the refs are calling, it's part of the game.

(Ex: Duke's win against Wake this season. That was a poorly called game, terrible, everybody should have fouled out, but I was impressed that Duke made the adjustment and played tougher and took the game from Wake.)

I could cry all day about all the moving screens that Duke sets, and the push offs, and the shoulder bumps to create space with the dribble, and the defensive hand checks, and....

Oops! Excuse me, I need a tissue...
:)

She? ;)

[uncwdevil]

I just heard a clip from Roy's show this week where he addressed the reaction to him comments about having more desire, etc. in his pinkie finger than all Carolina fans.

He started crying. Have y'all heard this? They just played in on WFNZ in Charlotte.

[BD80]

... And I've got to say it...all the continued whining about the refs and HansheOwnedU :) is pretty funny. I can't think of anything in college hoops that makes a fan look worse more than crying about the refs...time after time after time... (Whining about injuries come in a close second...Hey, it's a team game!). ...

...Oops! Excuse me, I need a tissue...
:)

Come on Wheat, you have been a straigh shooter in your time here, you won't admit that Sir Walksalot, I mean Hanstravel, shuffled his feet more and got called for travelling less than any player in the history of college basketball?

For goodness sake, he travels so much that a minor inner ear infection is completely disabling. By the third or fourth step, he loses his balance, at least one or two steps before he goes into the approach for his shot!

"Whining about injuries" - Great stuff. Many will not appreciate your sense of humor, but the self-deprecating nature is unmistakable. It must be tough to root for ol' roy and his constant whining about the littlest of injuries to players who then play. Humor is a cathartic way of coping.

For what it is worth, I agree with you, the time spent obsessing about Hanswhoever only reinforces his success against Duke. Let's move on. The dog had its day. Now let's get back to beating the flea-bitten I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this..

[Wheat/"/"/"]

"Whining about injuries" - Great stuff. Many will not appreciate your sense of humor, but the self-deprecating nature is unmistakable. It must be tough to root for ol' roy and his constant whining about the littlest of injuries to players who then play...


Actually, I haven't heard 'Ol Roy whine about the teams injuries, I've only heard him challenge the team to step up.

Granted, I have heard many UNC fans whine about the injuries, and they are the ones I was thinking about.

I hope you guys realize just how fragile your Duke team is, from a potential injury standpoint. If you had to deal with the injuries to your key players like the Heels have this season which have forced players to the bench, I'd think the tone of the board would be a little different this season, and Duke's W/L record too.... Singler is lucky he did not get hurt more than he did in that Wake game, and to his credit he is playing through it.

Sit any of Dukes big three and this team is likely to struggle, big time.

Injuries are part of the game/season, and teams have to deal with them if they want to win. Aknowledging them to understand a teams W/L record is one thing, but it's lame to use them as an excuse and cry "woe is my team".

[DukeBlueNikeShox]

Does anybody know why TH's mom and dad don't go to Ben's games at Notre Dame?! They didn't miss a game when Tyler was at UNC (or at least the televised ones). However, I have yet to see them at a Notre Dame game (or at least the televised ones). Reasons?! :(:confused:

[buckshot]

Does anybody know why TH's mom and dad don't go to Ben's games at Notre Dame?! They didn't miss a game when Tyler was at UNC (or at least the televised ones). However, I have yet to see them at a Notre Dame game (or at least the televised ones). Reasons?! :(:confused:

Interesting that Tyler doesn't go to his brother's games either. He is pretty close. Maybe all that bench warming is wearing him out.

[DukeChapel'90]

Wheat - you are a good guy, but it sounds like you are complaining about injuries. What about us losing EWill? I'd say that loss had a greater impact on our team than any "injury" to the boys in baby blue. Mason's wrist injury cost us our starting center. He's still not back to where he was in pre-season. Singler is playing thru injury, and I believe Mason is still feeling the ill effects of that hard foul from Ish where he was down for 5 minutes. I would say that Duke's losses this year are equal to if not greater than UNC's. ;) Every team can whine if it chooses to. We've done a better job of compensating for our losses - our experience helps.

And you haven't heard Roy complain about injuries? :eek: What did he do all last year, especially regarding Ty's big toe. :rolleyes:

[NSDukeFan]

Actually, I haven't heard 'Ol Roy whine about the teams injuries, I've only heard him challenge the team to step up.

Granted, I have heard many UNC fans whine about the injuries, and they are the ones I was thinking about.

I hope you guys realize just how fragile your Duke team is, from a potential injury standpoint. If you had to deal with the injuries to your key players like the Heels have this season which have forced players to the bench, I'd think the tone of the board would be a little different this season, and Duke's W/L record too.... Singler is lucky he did not get hurt more than he did in that Wake game, and to his credit he is playing through it.

Sit any of Dukes big three and this team is likely to struggle, big time.

Injuries are part of the game/season, and teams have to deal with them if they want to win. Aknowledging them to understand a teams W/L record is one thing, but it's lame to use them as an excuse and cry "woe is my team".

Every team is fragile from an injury standpoint if one of their best players gets hurt. Yes, EW,S are a huge part of our team, so an injury to one of them may have an even bigger impact for us. But after your discussion about not whining, it sounds like you are very close to whining about Duke not having an injury to EW,S.
Fortunately, there is a lot of room between Duke and UNC's record this year, so it would take an awful lot of injuries to make their records comparable.

[jv001]

Every team is fragile from an injury standpoint if one of their best players gets hurt. Yes, EW,S are a huge part of our team, so an injury to one of them may have an even bigger impact for us. But after your discussion about not whining, it sounds like you are very close to whining about Duke not having an injury to EW,S.
Fortunately, there is a lot of room between Duke and UNC's record this year, so it would take an awful lot of injuries to make their records comparable.

Yeh Wheat, if Lance doesn't play against G-Town it's your fault. Go Duke!

[77devil]

Actually, I haven't heard 'Ol Roy whine about the teams injuries, I've only heard him challenge the team to step up.

Let me refresh your memory with a couple of selected quotes from a plethora of choices. Seems like whining to me.

From Charlotte Observer 1/18/2010

"It's the most unsettled team I've had, just the nagging injuries, and taking people out of games,'' Williams said. "The last three years, we've had more injuries than any other five or six years that I've ever had as a coach. So lineup changes have been a lot, just because of that right there."

From ESPN 2/20/2009

"It's not like I'm getting a dadgum plane and flying it around to say, 'Roy fell against a wall and banged his nose' or anything," Williams said in a news conference. "We have to do those things [talk about injuries] and everybody's hurt. But there's different stages of being hurt.

"If you're hurt and missing games, that's not exactly like having a hangnail. And so we do have some people that are getting hurt and missing games. I don't think that somebody should say we're putting it in front of the public."

Lexus Nexis and the internet are wonderful things.

[oldnavy]

Let me refresh your memory with a couple of selected quotes from a plethora of choices. Seems like whining to me.

From Charlotte Observer 1/18/2010

"It's the most unsettled team I've had, just the nagging injuries, and taking people out of games,'' Williams said. "The last three years, we've had more injuries than any other five or six years that I've ever had as a coach. So lineup changes have been a lot, just because of that right there."

From ESPN 2/20/2009

"It's not like I'm getting a dadgum plane and flying it around to say, 'Roy fell against a wall and banged his nose' or anything," Williams said in a news conference. "We have to do those things [talk about injuries] and everybody's hurt. But there's different stages of being hurt.

"If you're hurt and missing games, that's not exactly like having a hangnail. And so we do have some people that are getting hurt and missing games. I don't think that somebody should say we're putting it in front of the public."

Lexus Nexis and the internet are wonderful things.

See here is the problem, you are letting the facts get in the way! Roy doesn't make mistakes, anyone over on the hill can tell you that. Heck even when he calls Devon Roe a liar in his book for changing his mind and going to MSU vice UNC, Roy was doing the college basketball world a "favor" by exposing the dark and ugly side of recruiting. He most certainly was not whining, or protecting his ego, or anything as daggum common as that! So when he "has" to talk about injuries, well, daggum it, he has to!

[DukieInKansas]

At the game in Durham, I hope there is someone dressed as a minister, Presbyterian would be best but don't know which black robe that would be ;), behind the basket. Occasionally, this should be the only one standing during a unc free throw to say "Deon (or whichever player), miss it." If it could be THE Presbyterian guy, that would be even better.