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FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 12:44 AM
Pfeiffer was 16-12 last year and averaged 98.8 points/game. Their opponents averaged 92.5. Expect this game to be very fast-paced, with Pfeiffer taking shots early in the shot clock.

The Falcons' best player is Chris Woods, a 6'5" junior who averaged 16 points, 7 rebounds and shot 64% from the field last year.

In an exhibition game in 2006, Pfeiffer put up 101 points on UNC, but lost 140-101. Apparently, they also were up by 15 points on Purdue in the 2nd half a few years ago, but ended up losing.

Their coach, Dave Davis (yes, that's his name - David Davis), has been at Pfeiffer for 14 years and Purdue head coach Matt Painter was an assistant under him at one point. Davis said, "I have never been to a game at Cameron, but it has been on my bucket list. It looks like I may end up with a pretty good seat."

Pfeiffer is definitely going to play hard, but if Duke shows up, I expect a 40+ point win.

Game starts at 6:30 pm.

airowe
10-24-2009, 12:55 AM
Pfeiffer has one guy taller than 6'6". A 6'9" Freshman. I expect to see a lot of Olek Czyz and Casey Peters throwing it down.

IT might look a little like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2pkrKwJpQE

AlaskanAssassin
10-24-2009, 12:58 AM
Does anyone know if this game will be live streamed?

thanks

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-24-2009, 01:00 AM
I think you can watch it on GoDuke.com but you need a subscription. I don't know but justintv may be your best bet when it comes to free live streamed videos.

MChambers
10-24-2009, 07:53 AM
But they've got Michelle on their side.

RainingThrees
10-24-2009, 08:30 AM
140-101? i hope our new zone defense with Mason and Miles in the middle can start the season off right and slow down that offense. I would be more satisfied with both teams scoring less because of defense than both teams scoring high because neither defense is working.

Devil's Advocate
10-24-2009, 09:21 AM
I know this was discussed at one point, but I couldn't find it. Are there any tickets left? GoDuke.com only lists tickets available for Findlay (11/3), but my wife and I would like to get a glimpse of the new team in person tonight, and support the _arrison Barnes cause. We're active alums if that makes a difference. Any thoughts? :confused:

RainingThrees
10-24-2009, 09:36 AM
Why do they schedule basketball games and football games on the same days? Wallace Wade needs to be packed for the Maryland game and I think these exhibtion games pull some fans away from WW and into CIS.

6th Man
10-24-2009, 09:38 AM
I believe yesterday I read where tickets were available and that ticket office in Cameron would be open all day. If you are going to the football game I would swing into Cameron and see if there are any still left. Probably the earlier the better.

Devil's Advocate
10-24-2009, 09:49 AM
Thanks 6th man. Phone message says they're closed, but someone else just told me the same thing. I'll check it out and report back.

jipops
10-24-2009, 10:25 AM
Why do they schedule basketball games and football games on the same days? Wallace Wade needs to be packed for the Maryland game and I think these exhibtion games pull some fans away from WW and into CIS.

Kickoff is at 1:30. The Pfeiffer game starts at 6:30. There is no conflict here. What a perfect day for those who have tickets. Watch Duke beat Maryland in football and then walk down and watch some Duke hoops.

walras
10-24-2009, 10:58 AM
It's Parents Weekend, and this kind of scheduling is actually the norm. Lots of campus programming all day, and two sports as well.

Lord Ash
10-24-2009, 01:09 PM
Since I will not be able to watch this game, I would REALLY really appreciate my fellow DBR readers who have sharp eyes to let us know a good detailed report of how it went! Ahhhh almost at televised games...!

Devil's Advocate
10-24-2009, 01:34 PM
i went down to campus and the security folks told me that the ticket office opens at 5:30 for bb tix, but it is not clear if any are available. I'll try my luck.

ChicagoCrazy84
10-24-2009, 01:37 PM
There's gotta be some scalpers around trying to get rid of a few extra tickets, right? This isn't the UNC game were talking.

vb_dukefan
10-24-2009, 01:43 PM
They are always there... even for UNC. The ol' lady and I picked up a pair for UNC a few years ago (course it was $1600, but you can't take it with you).

airowe
10-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Post a message here:

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5

allenmurray
10-24-2009, 05:35 PM
You could get them for $10 at the footbll game. If you supported the football team, you'd be sitting pretty in CIS right now! ;)

Lulu
10-24-2009, 06:40 PM
so who else is having audio problems at inside access? who can explain those introductions?

-nice scoreboard shot here at the break

-well now that I have audio I have to say that I love the fact it's Duke radio providing the audio that goes along with the video this year

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 06:45 PM
Sloppy start. I'm pretty sure Pfeiffer hasn't scored a point or had a rebound, but I'm not sure what the score is. 14-0, now 16-2.

somf4eva
10-24-2009, 06:55 PM
30-11

riverside6
10-24-2009, 06:56 PM
you can follow the live stats at my site...

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=3896

Indoor66
10-24-2009, 06:57 PM
Bob Harris radio: http://www.1010wspc.com/wzky.htm

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 06:58 PM
36-11. Incredibly sloppy game.

Pfeiffer plays at a really fast pace and I think it's making Duke play out of rhythm.

yancem
10-24-2009, 06:59 PM
Is there any sites streaming the game?

somf4eva
10-24-2009, 07:00 PM
you can follow the live stats at my site...

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=3896

thanks

Greg_Newton
10-24-2009, 07:01 PM
you can follow the live stats at my site...

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=3896

Nice, thanks. Miles already has 7 rebounds.


Bob Harris radio: http://www.1010wspc.com/wzky.htm

Is this working for anybody? It's just downloading and opening a text file for me.

nicktonyg22
10-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Any word on why Lance didn't practice and isn't playing? I'm only following through stat tracker so don't know if he's even in attendance.

Cameron
10-24-2009, 07:10 PM
Nice to see Kyle with a quick start, especially from deep. Two-for-two. With Mason, an improved Miles and help from Zoubek and Kelly, hopefully Kyle's long-range game will be able to stand the test of the season in 2009-10.

I guess my radio feed has decided to switch over to a Five Stair Steps marathon. Nice.

yancem
10-24-2009, 07:10 PM
Bob Harris radio: http://www.1010wspc.com/wzky.htm

When I clicked on the link all I got was music???????

Indoor66
10-24-2009, 07:12 PM
When I clicked on the link all I got was music???????

Apparently they left the game at 7:00 pm. Prior to that they were carrying the game - as they had the football game. I can't find another radio feed. :mad:

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:17 PM
Is there any word on Lance Thomas???

Miles already has double-digit rebounds. We absolutely tower over the Pfeiffer players. They have a really quick 5'6" Japanese PG named Yuki Yamaguchi who is all over the place.

AlaskanAssassin
10-24-2009, 07:18 PM
seem to be struggling from 3pt land

theAlaskanBear
10-24-2009, 07:22 PM
Is there any word on Lance Thomas???

Miles already has double-digit rebounds. We absolutely tower over the Pfeiffer players. They have a really quick 5'6" Japanese PG named Yuki Yamaguchi who is all over the place.

Lance wasnt at the open practice, is he at the game at all?

If not, he may be quarentined with the flu!

Ultrarunner
10-24-2009, 07:23 PM
Mason and Zoubs have more assists than Jon and Nolan :confused:

oldnavy
10-24-2009, 07:25 PM
seem to be struggling from 3pt land
4-10 is pretty good actually. Equates to a 60% 2 pt FG%.

COYS
10-24-2009, 07:27 PM
Mason and Zoubs have more assists than Jon and Nolan :confused:

This is absolutely no cause for concern. If anything, it just proves that we will have significantly improved interior passing this year and that our bigs are finding the open man close to the basket or kicking out to our guards who are knocking down their shots.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:27 PM
Mason and Zoubs have more assists than Jon and Nolan :confused:

This is the sloppiest game I've ever seen due to the frenetic way Pfeiffer is playing. They sub in multiple guys at the same time and are constantly running and pressuring full-court on defense. They have zero size, so our bigs are just holding the ball up high on offense and blocking almost every interior shot on defense. It's hard for Jon and Nolan to get in a flow or set anything up. We're also missing way too many interior shots. The Pfeiffer players are hammering us on the inside, but the refs aren't calling anything. It actually looks like we're playing against a bunch of tiny high school kids.

Half of Pfeiffer's players are under 6'0".

_Gary
10-24-2009, 07:30 PM
Lance wasnt at the open practice, is he at the game at all?

If not, he may be quarentined with the flu!

I find it absolutely bizarre that we haven't gotten any word on Lance in over 24 hours since he wasn't at the practice yesterday. I hope something weird isn't going on, but it seems hard to believe no one has given us the scoop at this point. Surely there are people here that know... :confused:

Gary

Ultrarunner
10-24-2009, 07:31 PM
This is absolutely no cause for concern. If anything, it just proves that we will have significantly improved interior passing this year and that our bigs are finding the open man close to the basket or kicking out to our guards who are knocking down their shots.

Not concerned. Just not used to having two point forwards on the team.

I think the motion offense will actually help Zoubs - he's shown in the past that he can make a timely pass and provides a decent presence in the post defensively and for rebounding.

He's not as well suited to the pick and pop we've run the last couple of years.

Oriole Way
10-24-2009, 07:31 PM
Score update?

yancem
10-24-2009, 07:32 PM
Seriously is there not a radio broadcast anywhere???? I found a link that listed Duke Radio afflilliates and none of them are covering the game!

WiJoe
10-24-2009, 07:34 PM
I caught the first 10 minutes or so one an oldies station, then it switched to music. I think we're out of luck.

anyone have a score. At GoDuke.com, it's been 56-20 with 1:59 left in the half for about 10 minutes.

HELP! HELP! give us a score.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:34 PM
Score update?

61-20 at halftime apparently.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:40 PM
71-24.

Miles looks AWESOME.

Oriole Way
10-24-2009, 07:43 PM
71-24.

Miles looks AWESOME.

Thanks for the score updates.

Very glad to hear that about Miles.

Nolan and Miles playing to their potential are two big keys to success this season, IMO.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:43 PM
Dawkins might be our best 3 point shooter, not counting Curry.

Singler is playing really well.

Mason Plumlee is making some nice plays now on offense.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:44 PM
79-27 with 15+ minutes left.

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-24-2009, 07:46 PM
Dawkins might be our best 3 point shooter, not counting Curry.
.

that sounds great considering we have Jon

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:49 PM
that sounds great considering we have Jon

Yeah, definitely. Dawkins seems to be pretty automatic when he's open. Nice stroke.

Singler's 3 pt shot looks improved this year too though.

The second half isn't as sloppy as the first, but still not what we're going to be seeing later in the year.

Pfeiffer is starting to hit some shots. 85 - 37.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:51 PM
Lance is "under the weather" and on the bench in street clothes.

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-24-2009, 07:53 PM
Lance is "under the weather" and on the bench in street clothes.

Thank you i was starting to get worried. But do you know how serious his "cold" is

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 07:55 PM
Thank you i was starting to get worried. But do you know how serious his "cold" is

No. Bob Harris just said he has been sick for a few days now. The fact that he's on the bench makes me think he's going to be fine.

Lulu
10-24-2009, 08:00 PM
I'm going to post a list of all radio stations I've listened to online for Duke games from my Favorites (Caveat - I'm watching Inside Access now and haven't checked any of these today. Caveat #2 - At best, usually one or two of these work for any one game):

http://216.249.100.82:8080/wzky
http://216.249.100.82:8080/wcsl
http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?page_id=3370
http://216.249.100.85:8080/wgnc
http://www.countrylegends983.com/
http://www.weeb990.com/
http://216.249.100.82:8080/wlon
http://www.mainstreamnetwork.com/listen/asx/wrbz.asx
http://www.oldies1079.com/
http://www.wistradio.com/page.php?page_id=8069
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=187716
http://www.wsfl.com/

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:02 PM
9:04 to go, 98-49. Coach K just took a timeout because we were getting really sloppy, even with the starters out there.

Maxwell1977
10-24-2009, 08:04 PM
I'm watching the goduke.com video which is accompanied by the Harris/Roth radio broadcast. How nice it would be to have HD video.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:10 PM
We have at least 19 turnovers. More than them I believe.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:13 PM
112-57.

Zoubek has made a couple points in a row. He probably has 8-12 inches on his man, though haha.

_Gary
10-24-2009, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the update on Lance, Ogilvie. I too was beginning to get worried, but as Brooklyn said, him being on the bench (as opposed to being totally MIA with no one saying what was wrong) is good news. Hopefully it's just a simple cold.

Gary

Indoor66
10-24-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the update on Lance, Ogilvie. I too was beginning to get worried, but as Brooklyn said, him being on the bench (as opposed to being totally MIA with no one saying what was wrong) is good news. Hopefully it's just a simple cold.

Gary

If we are going to have a round of the flu, I hope it is now rather than later.

Greg_Newton
10-24-2009, 08:15 PM
We have at least 19 turnovers. More than them I believe.

The SCACC stats have us at 19 and them at 20. Miles is our only player without one, interestingly enough.

Luckily our 61-20 rebounding margin is tiding us over.:rolleyes:

riverside6
10-24-2009, 08:15 PM
We have at least 19 turnovers. More than them I believe.

turnover percentage (to per possession) has been going back in forth though. Prob the one negative thus far.

Ultrarunner
10-24-2009, 08:16 PM
112-57.

Zoubek has made a couple points in a row. He probably has 8-12 inches on his man, though haha.

Zoubek has a double-double. Admittedly its preseason but still I like Zoubs and would like to see him shine now that he's been healthy for more than not - unlike the first 3 years.

Oriole Way
10-24-2009, 08:19 PM
Zoubek has a double-double. Admittedly its preseason but still I like Zoubs and would like to see him shine now that he's been healthy for more than not - unlike the first 3 years.

Good to see a nice game from him, but Pfieffer is so small it's really tough to read much into our big guys' performances, at least on the glass.

Ultrarunner
10-24-2009, 08:20 PM
Good to see a nice game from him, but Pfieffer is so small it's really tough to read much into our big guys' performances, at least on the glass.

True, but I'll keep the dark blue glasses on for now....:cool:

dukelifer
10-24-2009, 08:20 PM
Kelly is having a nice all around game from what I can gather looking at the stats.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:21 PM
Zoubek has a double-double. Admittedly its preseason but still I like Zoubs and would like to see him shine now that he's been healthy for more than not - unlike the first 3 years.

Yes, definitely.

The Plumlees and Zoubek all have double-doubles in this one.

121-65.

Kelly just made a crazy 15 foot turnaround jumper.

AlaskanAssassin
10-24-2009, 08:21 PM
any sights on H? hopefully this game can attract him.

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:25 PM
128-70 final score.

Czyz finished the game looking really good on offense.

Greg_Newton
10-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Good to see a nice game from him, but Pfieffer is so small it's really tough to read much into our big guys' performances, at least on the glass.

I disagree. I fully expect Mason to average 8 offensive rebounds per game from here on out! :mad:

buzz
10-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Mid-way through the 2nd half, both Plumlees have a double-double. Miles threw down back-to-back, aggressive running dunks. Mason had his own running dunk a few minutes later. Hopefully, a sign of things to come. In another sequence, Miles grabbed a rebound and made a nice move in the paint for the putback. Last year, he would have passed it out. His confidence is way up. I expect a huge year from him.

Kelly making some very nice contributions - he's a smart player. Sweet turnaround jumper from 15'. Zoubs having a nice 2nd half. Just left the game with a double-double. He tends to do well against smaller teams. It appears he's been working on a hook shot. Made a nice one earlier. Czyz looking more comfortable out there. Not setting the world on fire yet but also not looking like a liability. Might see some limited minutes this year. A frenetic game, so it's a little scrappy. Obviously, a cupcake opponent, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

proelitedota
10-24-2009, 08:27 PM
Scheyer was off tonight. :confused:

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-24-2009, 08:27 PM
Where can i find stats for this game? Can someone post them?

Maxwell1977
10-24-2009, 08:30 PM
Olek and Ryan really looked good for two guys who are going to have trouble getting serious minutes.

_Gary
10-24-2009, 08:32 PM
Scheyer was off tonight. :confused:

Maybe a tad in shooting, but he had 8 assists and only 2 turnovers. That's an incredibly good ratio, and if he's going to be our primary point this year then that's more important than anything else, IMHO.

buzz
10-24-2009, 08:33 PM
Player PTS AST REB PF
K Singler 21 1 7 2
R Kelly 18 5 4 1
M Plumlee 18 3 12 1
N Smith 16 3 2 2
B Zoubek 14 2 13 2
A Dawkins 12 2 1 0
O Czyz 11 1 5 1
M Plumlee 11 4 14 2
J Scheyer 7 8 3 0
J Davidson 0 0 0 2
C Peters 0 0 0 0
S Johnson 0 1 2 0
Totals 128 30 65 13

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 08:34 PM
Where can i find stats for this game? Can someone post them?

http://www.goduke.com/liveStats/newLiveStats.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=4200&DB_LANG=C&KEY=&SPID=1845&SPORT_ID=1845&GAME_STAT_ID=453216

Jon was not his usual self tonight. He had the ball go through his hands on one play and he wasn't very aggressive. I honestly think he struggled because of the small, quick, Pfeiffer guys constantly pressuring him, although he did a nice job of using his body to shield them off. Nolan had no problem getting to the rim, but Jon definitely didn't look comfortable. Jon still finished with solid assist/turnover stats, though. I think he's probably just used to playing against Duke guys and he'll come out in the next game and look really good.

micah75
10-24-2009, 08:36 PM
128-70 final score.

Props to Michelle and Cat Woman for hanging in there. Kudos to the Gotham City team for the nearly 60 point win.

Bluedevil114
10-24-2009, 08:42 PM
How was the crowd tonight? Did we impress the Barnes Family? I know Harrison was at the Duke UNC game last year? Any unique chants at the game? Give us the scoop........

dukelifer
10-24-2009, 08:43 PM
Scheyer was off tonight. :confused:

Scheyer knows this game is for the young guys. He set up his teammates and let them have fun.

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-24-2009, 08:51 PM
Who looked the most impressive on the floor tonight?

FireOgilvie
10-24-2009, 09:00 PM
Who looked the most impressive on the floor tonight?

Singler.

Mason made some freshman mistakes and missed some easy shots early, but he made up for it later in the game.

Miles looked really good. He missed an open dunk, which he has a tendency to do (along with Mason). I think both of them get up really high and lose control in the air.

I was surprised at how good Kelly looked. He's actually a really good passer.

Dawkins made 3/5 3 pointers.

Nolan looked really good attacking the basket and getting to the rim.

I'm surprised the blocked shot stats aren't higher.

dukeENG2003
10-24-2009, 09:07 PM
the crowd was great.

During one timeout, the undergrads held up a HUGE poster "the tradition of excellence continues" with a picture of Harrison in a Duke uni. The group behind him held up a FULL size cutout of him in a Duke jersey, and lots of them had "thats H" shirts on. VERY good support, we let him know we knew he was there, and that we wanted him.

interestingly enough, the poster and the cutout were confiscated by security. Signs that were passed out for "thats H" were confiscated, and those wearing the shirts had to turn them inside out for fear of a "secondary violation".

Native
10-24-2009, 09:10 PM
How was the crowd tonight? Did we impress the Barnes Family? I know Harrison was at the Duke UNC game last year? Any unique chants at the game? Give us the scoop........

Students were great! Great atmosphere. "That's H" posters were everywhere when he walked in. At one point the two Duke students behind the Barnes family held up the pictures of Harrison Ford and the Barns; Mrs. Barnes was laughing an nudged Harrison, who turned around and smiled. The Crazies held up a life-size cardboard cutout of Barnes. It was taken away, but then the same students held up a huge banner with Barnes on it in the second half. (Name of Recruit), Come to Duke!" chant was changed to "Harrison Barnes, This is Home!". FWIW, Mrs. Barnes looked thrilled. The video board also had videos from NBA players personally praising K (these were in honor of K's 30 years, but Barnes watched these intently...there were also "Go Duke" videos from Battier, Boozer, and Brand.). Good atmosphere.

Oriole Way
10-24-2009, 09:21 PM
Students were great! Great atmosphere. "That's H" posters were everywhere when he walked in. At one point the two Duke students behind the Barnes family held up the pictures of "Ford Field"; Mrs. Barnes was laughing an nudged Harrison, who turned around and smiled. The Crazies held up a life-size cardboard cutout of Barnes. It was taken away, but then the same students held up a huge banner with Barnes on it in the second half. (Name of Recruit), Come to Duke!" chant was changed to "Harrison Barnes, This is Home!". FWIW, Mrs. Barnes looked thrilled. The video board also had videos from NBA players personally praising K (these were in honor of K's 30 years, but Barnes watched these intently...there were also "Go Duke" videos from Battier, Boozer, and Brand.). Good atmosphere.

Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

Bluedevil114
10-24-2009, 09:25 PM
Students were great! Great atmosphere. "That's H" posters were everywhere when he walked in. At one point the two Duke students behind the Barnes family held up the pictures of "Ford Field"; Mrs. Barnes was laughing an nudged Harrison, who turned around and smiled. The Crazies held up a life-size cardboard cutout of Barnes. It was taken away, but then the same students held up a huge banner with Barnes on it in the second half. (Name of Recruit), Come to Duke!" chant was changed to "Harrison Barnes, This is Home!". FWIW, Mrs. Barnes looked thrilled. The video board also had videos from NBA players personally praising K (these were in honor of K's 30 years, but Barnes watched these intently...there were also "Go Duke" videos from Battier, Boozer, and Brand.). Good atmosphere.

Sounds like we have done everything we possibly could. That is Awesome!! Thanks for the updates........

Newton_14
10-24-2009, 09:59 PM
Pulled a double and caught both games today! Nice day to be a Dukie!

Random Thoughts on BB- Forget the Score and for the most part the stats..

- Kyle looked really good both scoring from all areas and handling/passing rebounds...

-Nolan played well given the funky pace of this game. Lots of nice penetration and finish..

-Kelly is a player. Very smooth with the ball, great shooter, passer, and to be honest, ball handler.. Needs strength, but this kid is gonna play more than some expect in my humble opinion.

-Mason looked great even with not finishing well in the early going. Made a lot of athletic plays but kept putting it up softly and suffered lots "almost" baskets. As the game wore on he got more agressive and started finishing stronger with dunks whenever possible. Runs like a deer and smooth. Another big comfortable with the ball no matter where he is on the court..

-Miles looked quite a bit better than last year. I know I keep using this word, but sorry, he looks more "comfortable" out there and seems to better know how to use that athletic ability. Had one coast to coast monster dunk over one of the smurfs..

-Andre: Well there is a reason I changed my signature to Stone Cold Dre Dawkins, the kid can flat out shoot the rock. On the last play before halftime, Jon penetrated and kicked it out to Dre for a buzzer beating 3. (I noticed HB clapped on every Dawkins basket and several others for that matter)

-Jon's shot was not falling and it seemed to frustrate him but we all know what we have with him..

Cameron Crazies brought their A game for Barnes and it was great. Unless she is a great actor, momma Barnes was all smiles and seem to really enjoy the night. Lil Sis Barnes was sporting a Duke shirt and was all smiles as well..

That's all I got.. Go Duke!!

AlaskanAssassin
10-24-2009, 10:11 PM
Pulled a double and caught both games today! Nice day to be a Dukie!

Random Thoughts on BB- Forget the Score and for the most part the stats..

- Kyle looked really good both scoring from all areas and handling/passing rebounds...

-Nolan played well given the funky pace of this game. Lots of nice penetration and finish..

-Kelly is a player. Very smooth with the ball, great shooter, passer, and to be honest, ball handler.. Needs strength, but this kid is gonna play more than some expect in my humble opinion.

-Mason looked great even with not finishing well in the early going. Made a lot of athletic plays but kept putting it up softly and suffered lots "almost" baskets. As the game wore on he got more agressive and started finishing stronger with dunks whenever possible. Runs like a deer and smooth. Another big comfortable with the ball no matter where he is on the court..

-Miles looked quite a bit better than last year. I know I keep using this word, but sorry, he looks more "comfortable" out there and seems to better know how to use that athletic ability. Had one coast to coast monster dunk over one of the smurfs..

-Andre: Well there is a reason I changed my signature to Stone Cold Dre Dawkins, the kid can flat out shoot the rock. On the last play before halftime, Jon penetrated and kicked it out to Dre for a buzzer beating 3. (I noticed HB clapped on every Dawkins basket and several others for that matter)

-Jon's shot was not falling and it seemed to frustrate him but we all know what we have with him..

Cameron Crazies brought their A game for Barnes and it was great. Unless she is a great actor, momma Barnes was all smiles and seem to really enjoy the night. Lil Sis Barnes was sporting a Duke shirt and was all smiles as well..

That's all I got.. Go Duke!!


good stuff! How would you compare Andre to how Elliot was at this time?

COYS
10-24-2009, 10:11 PM
Pulled a double and caught both games today! Nice day to be a Dukie!

Random Thoughts on BB- Forget the Score and for the most part the stats..

- Kyle looked really good both scoring from all areas and handling/passing rebounds...

-Nolan played well given the funky pace of this game. Lots of nice penetration and finish..

-Kelly is a player. Very smooth with the ball, great shooter, passer, and to be honest, ball handler.. Needs strength, but this kid is gonna play more than some expect in my humble opinion.

-Mason looked great even with not finishing well in the early going. Made a lot of athletic plays but kept putting it up softly and suffered lots "almost" baskets. As the game wore on he got more agressive and started finishing stronger with dunks whenever possible. Runs like a deer and smooth. Another big comfortable with the ball no matter where he is on the court..

-Miles looked quite a bit better than last year. I know I keep using this word, but sorry, he looks more "comfortable" out there and seems to better know how to use that athletic ability. Had one coast to coast monster dunk over one of the smurfs..

-Andre: Well there is a reason I changed my signature to Stone Cold Dre Dawkins, the kid can flat out shoot the rock. On the last play before halftime, Jon penetrated and kicked it out to Dre for a buzzer beating 3. (I noticed HB clapped on every Dawkins basket and several others for that matter)

-Jon's shot was not falling and it seemed to frustrate him but we all know what we have with him..

Cameron Crazies brought their A game for Barnes and it was great. Unless she is a great actor, momma Barnes was all smiles and seem to really enjoy the night. Lil Sis Barnes was sporting a Duke shirt and was all smiles as well..

That's all I got.. Go Duke!!

Man, wish I could've watched the whole game. This makes me so excited for the season to start. I'm glad Andre was shooting the ball like he owned the gym. Always nice to see a shooter come out hot like that. Also, really glad to hear that Kelly played really well. It would be very nice if Kelly and Andre can give us some offense off the bench. It would also be easier to absorb foul trouble to one of our top scorers is the frosh off the bench can knock down a few baskets here and there.

Otherwise, i wouldn't expect anything other than some nerves and missed shots from Mason early. Glad to hear he got comfortable as the game went on. His point and rebound totals (as well as Miles' totals) are really impressive. Of course, Pfeiffer didn't have anyone who could look our bigs in the eye, but that's fine. Good start for the kids all around.

Also, I'm glad to hear that arrison Barnes was clapping on made shots by Dre and some of the other Dukies. I can always dream that in his head he's saying "Nice shot, Andre. We're going to be really, really good with him knocking down shots next year when I'm here."

Newton_14
10-24-2009, 10:25 PM
good stuff! How would you compare Andre to how Elliot was at this time?

E-Will was longer and much quicker, and thus quite a bit better than Andre on defense.. We will miss E-Will's on the ball D..

On the other hand, Andre has a killer stroke, and can shoot it from anywhere. His offensive skill set is quite a bit better than E-Will at the same stage. Who knows though how much improvement E-Will would have made on offense..

It is safe to say Andre will be in the normal rotation from the get go and stay there. He just needs maturity and tighter D.. (He is not a bad defender, it's just that that was E-Will's strength)

Wish we had them both!!

ACCBBallFan
10-24-2009, 10:41 PM
IMO, player of the game was Ryan Kelly, especially relative to expectations. Olek looks way less lost than last year and he too was a pleasant surprise.

Rating
64 34 KELLY RYAN

59 TEAM Duke
59 12 SINGLER KYLE
59 21 PLUMLEE MILES

54 5 PLUMLEE MASON
52 WOODS CHRIS
52 55 ZOUBEK BRIAN

49 30 SCHEYER JON
49 3 JORDAN KIERRE
48 TEAM Pfeiffer
47 2 SMITH NOLAN

40 13 CZYZ OLEK
36 20 DAWKINS ANDRE

34 1 PETTIWAY JEFF
30 5 GILLIARD DAVON
25 4 CARR ISAAC
21 12 MORSE JAMES

18 11 YAMAGUCHI YUKI
18 15 RIVERA ATHALIE

12 20 EAFORD VONTE
10 33 MOORE LEVI

07 51 JOHNSON STEVE
07 22 PUGHSLEY DREW
06 23 HUMPHREY JOSH

03 41 DAVIDSON JORDAN
02 53 PETERS CASEY
01 30 FONTES BRANDON

http://www.goduke.com/liveStats/newLiveStats.dbml?SPSID=22726&DB_OEM_ID=4200&DB_LANG=C&KEY=&SPID=1845&SPORT_ID=1845&GAME_STAT_ID=453216

Blowout is first half 61-20 but second half was only 67-50 as Pfeiffer played better and Duke played its third team subs for last 5 minutes.

Pfeiffer is the type of opponent that Zoubek normally does not play well against. Chris Woods was very crafty under the basket and used the rim to help him against the trees.

Last year Duke would not have leveraged its height advantage and would just sit Zoubek against a smaller quick team, but with so many bigs who know how and when and where to feed the post, they made Zoubs a force, Kelly especially played twin towers set well with Zoubek.

Kind of fortunate Lance was sick with flu as Duke knows what they have from the two captains, and gave the frosh and sophs more PT.

All of the bigs looked decent guarding the much smaller quicker guys of Pfeiffer, good foot movement, no reach in fouls to speak of. Nobody had more than 2 fouls.

The garbage time lineup was Jordan Davidson, Casey Peters, Steve Johnson, Olek Czyz and Ryan Kelly and the latter two both played very well. A couple of quick turnovers the minute they entered the game.

Most minutes to Scheyer 28, Nolan 25, Kyle 23 and Kelly 22, then Mason 19, miles and Andre 18, Olek 17 and Zoubs 16.

In pre-game coach K mentioned needing to get Andre and Olek ready to back up his three terrific perimeter guys. So it appears Andre's role will be primarily as a WF and occasionally as SG or PF. Coach also said Andre is not afraid of lights (game pressure) and in fact ran the last play of half for him and he rattled in a 3.

Coach K also said Pfeiffer is a perfect opponent for exhibition since Duke cannot simulate the quick transition they play in practice. Duke did a good job of not letting Pfeiffer do what he said they like to do, a shot every 7 seconds like old Loyola Marymount teams.

Kelly (5 Assists 0 turnovers) showed a lot of versatility being able to hit a nice shot like Deon Thompson uses when he was the garbage time center, and also feed Zoubek. With Lance ill, he was playing those minutes with Zoubek while the Plumlees were mostly paired together.

One would think those two would be way too slow to pair together but they had great chemistry on Offense and did not get blown by.

Rather than play any zone, coach K used this game to give his bigs practice guarding smaller quicker guys they had not seen before. Jon and Nolan can get that type of pressure from Seth and Andre but the bigs can’t.

Oh yeh, forgot to mention that Zoubek dunked the ball early in the game. So with Scheyer's dunk in CTC, that's two we were not expecting.

Newton_14
10-24-2009, 10:54 PM
Kelly is quite good at feeding the interior from the high post. Kid is smooth for a freshman. Has guard like skills. Not surprised at the chemisty between him and Zoubs, as at the practice yesterday they were paired against the Plumlee's in the big man drills, and they spent a lot of time working on the high post dumping into the low post..

Nice to see good practice produce results in a game for those two guys..

Jumbo
10-24-2009, 11:09 PM
Who looked the most impressive on the floor tonight?

Honestly, it's almost not worth asking or answering. This team was SO small that our offfense largely consisted of "throw ball high to tall guy. Let tall guy get ball and score or miss, where other tall guy will get it and score." Scheyer came out determined to get everyone involved and really didn't look for his offense at all. Nolan looked to score in spurts, but he, too, was content to feed the bigs.

The good news is that the bigs produced against completely overmatched players, and you could see some skills that will translate against good competition. For instance, Miles Plumlee was just much, much more fluid with the ball -- catching, dribbling, whatever. No matter how weak the competition was, it was an easy conclusion to draw. And everything I've heard about Mason was completely true -- he looked really, really good. Otherwise, don't even try to draw conclusions from this game.

El_Diablo
10-25-2009, 01:57 AM
Some notes:

-We did the full intros again with the lights out, player songs, Duke-logo spotlights, and Michael Buffer on the mic. "LET'S GET READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLE!!!"

-Some sloppy turnovers, but considering the frantic pace (and sheer number of possessions), it wasn't bad for a first game.

-Mason was trying to finesse his finishes a little too much at the beginning, leading to a bunch of close misses, but he was relentless and eventually started rolling.

-Very nice night from Ryan--scored in a number of ways.

-Miles is a complete monster on the fast break. :eek:

juise
10-25-2009, 02:18 AM
It's nice to hear that the crowd was in rare form for Harrison's visit. The parents' weekend crowd (during my years) was much less coordinated or creative than regular games for the Crazies. Of course, all my parents' weekend games were Blue-White games... so that could have been it. :p

BlueintheFace
10-25-2009, 09:55 AM
It's almost impossible to come to any reasonable conclusions about how this year's team will look based on a game like this. Although, if one were so inclined I believe they would conclude:

Positives:
-We are going to get lots of rebounds
-Kyle Singler is going to be REALLY REALLY Good
-Dawkins WILL be able to give us instant offense off the bench with that 3pt weapon he has.

Negatives:
-We are going to struggle against athletic pressing teams without a true pg who can be a pressbreaker
- The plumlees will struggle with fouls (early on at least)

...but like I said... it was pfeiffer

El_Diablo
10-25-2009, 10:39 AM
The plumlees will struggle with fouls (early on at least)

Only 3 fouls total between the two of them though, in 37 minutes of action. I thought Miles did a good job of staying on his feet in the post (instead of just jumping to try to swat everything). For the amount of times that Pfeiffer forced it into the lane, attacking the basket and trying to draw fouls, I thought they were okay in that respect. In the first half, Mason was standing up a little too straight (and reaching instead of moving) when matching up against one of the guards on the perimeter. The coaches must have corrected that, because by the end of the half, it seemed he was getting low and moving his feet a lot better. Maybe you were referring to potential charges though...and I could see that being a problem if they attack the basket for a contested dunk instead of pulling up for the 5-footer in the lane.

Zoubek still likes to use his arm to seal off the defender when making a move in the post. He will get some hooking fouls until he learns to seal with his lower body instead.

Again, Pfeiffer made all three of them look like men amongst boys. I'm anxious to see them play against bigger post players in the future...

jpfrizzle
10-25-2009, 10:40 AM
I can't watch these games, so really appreciate the updates :)

Go DUKE ! ! ! !

Blueequalslife23
10-25-2009, 03:16 PM
Ok..I read that the starters were Jon, Nolan, Kyle and the Plumlees. I think we all know that Lance will be in the starting lineup but he was sick. My question is..Who do we see not starting Miles or Mason?

AlaskanAssassin
10-25-2009, 03:21 PM
Actually, I don't think Lance will be starting. He has been referred to as "the 6th starter".

El_Diablo
10-25-2009, 03:32 PM
Depending on matchups, we might make a lineup change (to insert LT/Z/Dre), but I think this is our starting unit going forward.

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-25-2009, 06:11 PM
Are there any photos to the game? Link please

AlaskanAssassin
10-25-2009, 06:45 PM
Are there any photos to the game? Link please


http://www.newsobserver.com/galleries/gallery/157323.html

and

http://sports.chronicleblogs.com/2009/10/24/photo-slideshow-duke-mens-basketball-vs-pfeiffer/

gep
10-25-2009, 06:52 PM
I like Brian Z's "new look":)

El_Diablo
10-25-2009, 07:36 PM
Are there any photos to the game? Link please

goduke.com has some as well

Welcome2DaSlopes
10-25-2009, 07:51 PM
http://www.newsobserver.com/galleries/gallery/157323.html

and

http://sports.chronicleblogs.com/2009/10/24/photo-slideshow-duke-mens-basketball-vs-pfeiffer/

Thanks these are great

Taco
10-25-2009, 08:23 PM
DukeBluePlanet has a bunch (http://www.blueplanetshots.com/2009-10/Games/Duke-vs-Pfeiffer/)

theman5207
10-25-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.newsobserver.com/galleries/gallery/157323.html

and

http://sports.chronicleblogs.com/2009/10/24/photo-slideshow-duke-mens-basketball-vs-pfeiffer/

Awesome post. Seeing the team in person, I'm thinking about taking a sip of the Koolaid. The big men look great, but their performance really has to be a push, considering the size of the opposition. The guards performed near expectations, but the frenetic pace throws things off, so it's hard to say.

Overall, it seems encouraging.

Mason Plumlee is going to be a monster player. Having seen him several times in person, I think he has serious potential. He jumps out of the gym, is long and has quick hands. I think that it's very likely that he exceeds expectations this year. He's very fit, and in a few games, I bet that he'll be performing against legit competition.

Edouble
10-26-2009, 01:39 AM
DukeBluePlanet has a bunch (http://www.blueplanetshots.com/2009-10/Games/Duke-vs-Pfeiffer/)

I hate to open this can of worms, but seriously...

Warm-ups = Hideous

oldnavy
10-26-2009, 07:29 AM
Whatever happened to the shooting jacket tops? I agree, these look less like warm ups and more like tee shirts. I think the button up, short sleeve jackets looked better, but... at least we haven't sold out like UNC did in football and started wearing a different color uni? Seriously, do you ever think you will see anything that even approaches carolina blue on a Duke uniform?

airowe
10-26-2009, 08:20 AM
Whatever happened to the shooting jacket tops? I agree, these look less like warm ups and more like tee shirts. I think the button up, short sleeve jackets looked better, but... at least we haven't sold out like UNC did in football and started wearing a different color uni? Seriously, do you ever think you will see anything that even approaches carolina blue on a Duke uniform?

Carolina will also wear some throwbacks this year that have a red picnic blanket type checkerboard trim.

I'd want to get as far away from that weak, watered down blue if I were them too, but red?

oldnavy
10-26-2009, 08:29 AM
Carolina will also wear some throwbacks this year that have a red picnic blanket type checkerboard trim.

I'd want to get as far away from that weak, watered down blue if I were them too, but red?

For them it's all about the Benjamin's. Think how many of those retro jerseys they will sell to the poor misguided hoard of "fans"... I put fans in quotes because I believe that about 45% of the people you see wearing unc crap, are not fans at all, but like the colors... no scientific data to back that up, just anecdotal findings over the years...

Turtleboy
10-26-2009, 10:22 AM
Seriously is there not a radio broadcast anywhere???? I found a link that listed Duke Radio afflilliates and none of them are covering the game!I heard it on 98.3.

Duke Radio Network.
(http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=187716)

CEF1959
10-26-2009, 06:19 PM
Good link, but unless you are in the listening area of one of those channels, I think ya gotta pay da man.

Turtleboy
10-26-2009, 07:58 PM
Good link, but unless you are in the listening area of one of those channels, I think ya gotta pay da man.I was answering this question : Seriously is there not a radio broadcast anywhere????


I'm not sure if their internet site broadcasts Duke games, but generally speaking you are correct. You need to be in the listening area of a radio station in order to listen to it.

sagegrouse
10-26-2009, 08:02 PM
I was answering this question : Seriously is there not a radio broadcast anywhere????


I'm not sure if their internet site broadcasts Duke games, but generally speaking you are correct. You need to be in the listening area of a radio station in order to listen to it.

XM Radio has all the ACC broadcasts, including Duke.

sagegrouse

juise
10-26-2009, 08:05 PM
XM Radio has all the ACC broadcasts, including Duke.

sagegrouse


I was wondering if XM carries exhibition games, too. I wasn't near my radio on Saturday to find out. Can you verify that it was on?

CEF1959
10-26-2009, 08:06 PM
What hacks me about the XM thing is that if you are a Sirius subscriber, even post-merger, you have to pay extra for the XM Premium package that includes the ACC basketball stations. [That and I'd have to be in my car to listen to the games: "Honey, I'm going to get a gallon of milk. I'll be back in about 2 and 1/2 hours, unless there's overtime or a lot of fouls."].

sagegrouse
10-26-2009, 08:12 PM
I was wondering if XM carries exhibition games, too. I wasn't near my radio on Saturday to find out. Can you verify that it was on?

Channels 190, 191, and 192 are ACC Sports. Doesn't give detail on the Saturday, October 31 schedule.

sagegrouse

natedog4ever
10-26-2009, 08:38 PM
What hacks me about the XM thing is that if you are a Sirius subscriber, even post-merger, you have to pay extra for the XM Premium package that includes the ACC basketball stations. [That and I'd have to be in my car to listen to the games: "Honey, I'm going to get a gallon of milk. I'll be back in about 2 and 1/2 hours, unless there's overtime or a lot of fouls."].

If you are a subscriber, you get access to your stations via the website as well, so you can listen inside on the computer. I've never tried, but it's one of the things I remember from their promotional junk.

juise
10-26-2009, 08:41 PM
If you are a subscriber, you get access to your stations via the website as well, so you can listen inside on the computer. I've never tried, but it's one of the things I remember from their promotional junk.

I'm pretty sure that the live sports stations are not available online... but that may have changed since the last time I checked.

Neals384
10-27-2009, 02:09 PM
If you are a subscriber, you get access to your stations via the website as well, so you can listen inside on the computer. I've never tried, but it's one of the things I remember from their promotional junk.

Used to be true, but now XM subscribers need a $2.99/month upgrade to listen online.

WiJoe
10-27-2009, 06:38 PM
I did not try to listen to the game on XM, but I have not been notified of any added cost to listen to games. Maybe - hopefully- that charge is for sirius subscribers.

:eek:

DukieInBrasil
10-28-2009, 05:40 PM
While Pfeiffer was way smaller than us, we got great results out of our frontcourt. One thing that comes across as a positive is that Z was as productive as MP I&II. As much as it is great that the MPs are showing that they might be for real, there should be an equal amount of enthusiasm for Z, who is coming off a fully healthy off-season, finally. Getting solid minutes from Z off the bench or as a "second starter" at the 5 is very valuable for the boys this year. Ryan Kelly was also very productive. While it might be expected that the much taller guys would grab more rebounds and score easily, it is nice that these guys also proved to be adept at passing the ball around, esp. RK.

CDu
10-28-2009, 07:14 PM
While Pfeiffer was way smaller than us, we got great results out of our frontcourt. One thing that comes across as a positive is that Z was as productive as MP I&II. As much as it is great that the MPs are showing that they might be for real, there should be an equal amount of enthusiasm for Z, who is coming off a fully healthy off-season, finally. Getting solid minutes from Z off the bench or as a "second starter" at the 5 is very valuable for the boys this year. Ryan Kelly was also very productive. While it might be expected that the much taller guys would grab more rebounds and score easily, it is nice that these guys also proved to be adept at passing the ball around, esp. RK.

The problem (as has been mentioned by a few others) is that it's really hard to tell if the positive performance against Pfeiffer is really a sign of progress or whether it was merely evidence that our guys were SO much bigger Pfeiffer's team. If you have a 7-8" height advantage (not to mention the talent edge) at every frontcourt position, you should be getting all the rebounds. It is also much easier to make good passes (at least when you're in a set position) when you're being defended by guys 7-8" shorter, because you can see and throw right over them. For example, Kelly et al made number of nice entry/outlet/transition passes. But he made most of them while standing still and throwing over the top of his tiny defender. Those easy rebounds and passing lanes become much harder to come by when you're facing guys who are within 3-4" in height (and with more comparable talent), as will be the case in D-1 play.

I'm hopeful that Zoubek, the Plumlees, and Kelly really are going to be productive rebounders and passers. But I just don't think this was the game to illustrate it. I just really don't think there's much to take home from this game other than that (1) we're tall, (2) Pfeiffer is really short, and (3) the Plumlees can jump (especially Miles). Perhaps Findlay will give us a little better idea, though I know nothing about them so that remains to be seen. But the best thing that can be taken away, in my opinion, is that nobody looked particularly bad in this game. Some guys like Scheyer had quiet games, but that is probably more attributable to the focus on exploiting the size advantage than any low quality in his play.

That being said, it was really fun to watch Miles Plumlee dunk in transition. Even his missed dunk was impressive. The guy is definitely an athlete.

CEF1959
10-29-2009, 04:43 PM
That being said, it was really fun to watch Miles Plumlee dunk in transition.

Both Miles and Mason had some killer running dunks. Mason had some missed dunks too, but he seemed to settle down. I'm liking these guys a lot this year. Pfeiffer wasn't a good test overall, but the athleticism and touch shown by MP1 and MP2 were impressive. Big, fast and coordinated = dangerous against any opponent.