ACCBBallFan
07-18-2009, 06:48 PM
I did some research to reply to on a question on THR. So thought I would share the wealth here.
With UNC's size and athleticism, the hope is you won't see much half court offense, just rebound, outlet and run.
With respect to ACC strength by positions guys probably have to play given their team's composition, I tried to figure out who the top 18 were, 12 starters and next half dozen best.
UNC's biggest question mark is PG but here are only a half dozen guys rated higher than Drew II. (see below). If there is such a thing, there is some concern that Heels may be too strong at the power positions. That would be if Henson cannot guard 3’s. Not to worry though, Ginyard is best in ACC at that, if Graves can’t either. Then either or both of the 4*’s Strickland and MacDonald would have to step up at combo guard slot to provide an outside presence.
Regardless of where Marcus is classified, he guards the best perimeter guys anyway:
Delaney, Vasquez, Singler or Scheyer, Landesberg, Shumpert, Singleton, Stitt or Johnson, Dews or Hurdle, LW Williams or Ish Smith, and whoever that is for NC State.
Similarly Duke's biggest weakness is Center but there are only a half dozen guys rated higher than Zoubek/Miles, and most are not speed merchants. They rank pretty low on PF's too but have a lot of options with Thomas, the Plumlees and Kelly and every ACC team has someone pretty good or better than pretty good at PF (not better than Duke's trio).
GA Tech needs for its 4* PG Udolfia to fare as well as Drew II, and for either Peacock to play well enough they can move Lawal to SF or Mo Miller to play well enough they can move Shumpert to SF. I assumed the former.
They also have a brutal unbalanced ACC Schedule having to play UNC, Duke, Clemson, FSU and Wake home and home.
Clemson's two biggest needs are for Noel Johnson to be able to replace Ogelsby @ SG and for Milton Jennings to be able to play SF aside Sykes and Trevor Booker in a different set than they had with KC Rivers.
BC has the same need as UNC and GA Tech (and FSU), Point Guard, and has to hope Reggie Jackson can somewhat make up for loss of Tyrese Rice. They are basically same team as least year without their leader.
Wake needs their 4* Ari Stewart to come through at SF and for Chas MacFarland to be consistent and stay out of foul trouble, as opposed to consistently get into foul trouble, They lack depth but have Ish Smith, LD Williams, Aminu and MacFarland, and some potential backup centers in Woods and Walker.
FSU, like UNC, GA Tech and BC needs their PG to play well enough to somewhat make up for loss of Toney Douglas. They also need Ryan Reid to play well enough @ PF than they can plays Chris Singleton at SF, 7-foot Solomon Alabi at center, rookie 5* Snaer @ SG/SF. So they like Duke have to play SG JUCO x-fer Kitchen or Snaer at PG if either has those skills or else go with light weights Dulkys and Loucks.
Miami is hard to figure out. They seem covered at every position but could not win with the same guys and McClinton last year. Collins, Dews, Hurdle, McGowan, Dequan Jones has to live up to his 5* rating from last year, Rios and Degand Scott a new 5. May not have a go to guy.
VA Tech has some quality but lacks depth. Malcolm Delaney and Jeff Allen are consistent. J.T. Thompson, and Dorenzo Hudson have some potential and they are hurting at center and depend on Raines C-9 4* or Davila and no bench. Seth plays all his guys 30 plus minutes anyway.
Maryland is basically same team as last year without Dave Neal the giant 6'7 260 who roamed the perimeter. Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne, some other decent guards and have to depend on Williams C-16 4* or Braxton Dupree or get killed on boards with no PF/C. If not, Milbourne probably has to move from SF to PF where every ACC team has someone better.
UVA is pretty much just Sylvan Landesberg and Mike Scott. Calvin Baker, Sam Zeglinski, Jamil Tucker and Jeff Jones are okay and they have a new 4* Spurlock SF-18, and an returning 4* Brandenberg C-16.
NC State has Tracy Smith and is hurting everywhere else after losing Costner, MacCauley & Fells and JJ Hickson the year before. The Red coat will try to keep score close with Horner, Gonzales, Degand, Feguson, Painter PF-20 4*, and Howell PF-16 4*.
Point Guards:
Delaney PG-13 4*
Scheyer SG-3 5* has to play out of position
Stitt PG-18 4*
Hayes PG-19 4*
Hurdle G JC 1*
Smith, Ish PG-17 4*
Drew II PG-4 4*
Udolfia 4* PG-5
Jackson SG-24 4* has to play out of position
ZeglinskiPG NR 3*
Kitchen SG JC 4* has to play out of position
Young PG-6 4*
Rios PG-16 4*
Miller PG-20 3*
Loucks PG-22 3*
Gonzales PG-30 3*
Paris PG NR 2*
Foreman G NR 1*
Combo Guards
Vasquez SG-25 4*
Shumpert SG-5 5*
Ginyard SG-15 4*
Smith, Nolan SG-7 4*
Sanders SG-21 4*
Dews SG-28 4*
Williams, LD SF-26 3*
Snaer 5* SG-3
Scott, D 5* SG-5
Tucker, J SG-24 4*
Baker, C SG NR 2*
Mosley SG-8 4*
Hudson SG-16 4*
Strickland 4* SG-8
MacDonald 4* SG-12
Johnson, Noel 4* SG-13
A. Dawkins 5* SG-3 2010
Jones, Jeff SG -22 4*
Wings
Singler SF-1 5*
Lawal PF-7 5* if Peacock can play PF and Favors center
Landesberg SF-8 4*
Singleton PF-5 5* if Reid can play PF
Henson 5* PF-1 if he can defend SF
Raji SF NR 3*
Jennings 5* PF-8 if he can defend aside Booker and Sykes
Jones, Dequan SF-5 5* needs to live up to his potential
Graves SF-18 4*
Potter SF-21 3*
Horner SF-22 3*
Stewart 4* SF-8
Smith, Tanner SF-22 3*
Williams, CJ SF-28 3*
Bowie SF-28 3*
Thompson, JT PF-31 4* unless Allen plays center and he plays PF, then who?
Tucker, C SF-32 3*
DeMercy SF NR 3*
Bell SF-35 3* if JT Thompson plays PF
Roche SF-39 3*
Spurlock 4* SF-18
Forwards - everybody in ACC is pretty good here unless some have to play Center
Booker, T. PF-24 4* with Sykes
Aminu SF-4 5* with MacFarland
Trapani PF NR 2* with Southern
Allen PF-13 4* may have to play center and regain weight he lost
Davis PF-3 5* considered Deon the center
Smith, Tracy PF-18 4* may have to play center or Painter
Scott, Mike PF-19 4* assuming Brandenberg can play center
Collins PF-22 4* considered McGowan the center
Thomas PF-4 5* or Mason Plumlee or Kelly
Zeller PF-7 5* considered Henson the SF
Kelly 5* PF-4 with Lance Thomas and Plumlees
Plumlee, Mason 5* PF-6 with lance Thomas and Kelly
Reid PF-22 4* so Singleton can play SF
Peacock PF-30 4* so Lawal can play SF
Milbourne SF-33 3* undersized but who else?
Plumlee, Mi PF-14 4* probably plays center alternating with Zoubek
Wear , D PF-13
Wear, T PF-14
Howell 4* PF-16
Booker, D 4* PF-17
Painter PF-20 4* may have to play center if Tracy Smith does not
Weaver PF NR 3*
Wicher PF NR 3*
Centers
Thompson, D C-5 4*
Alabi C-5 5*
Favors C-1 5*
MacFarland C-26 3*
Sykes C NR 3*
Southern C-23 4*
Zoubek C-7 4* when Plumlees are not in post
McGowan C-8 4* with Collins considered PF
Walker C-4 5*
Davilla C-21 3*
Woods C-10 4*
Raines C-9 4* or Davilla or else Jeff Allen plays center
Gibson C-13 4*
Baciu C-14 4*
Dupree C-16 4* or frosh Williams
Brandenberg C-16 4*
Williams C-16 4* or Dupree
Sheehan C-22 3*
Gamble C-27 3*
Sene C-23 3*
Grant C-29 3*
With UNC's size and athleticism, the hope is you won't see much half court offense, just rebound, outlet and run.
With respect to ACC strength by positions guys probably have to play given their team's composition, I tried to figure out who the top 18 were, 12 starters and next half dozen best.
UNC's biggest question mark is PG but here are only a half dozen guys rated higher than Drew II. (see below). If there is such a thing, there is some concern that Heels may be too strong at the power positions. That would be if Henson cannot guard 3’s. Not to worry though, Ginyard is best in ACC at that, if Graves can’t either. Then either or both of the 4*’s Strickland and MacDonald would have to step up at combo guard slot to provide an outside presence.
Regardless of where Marcus is classified, he guards the best perimeter guys anyway:
Delaney, Vasquez, Singler or Scheyer, Landesberg, Shumpert, Singleton, Stitt or Johnson, Dews or Hurdle, LW Williams or Ish Smith, and whoever that is for NC State.
Similarly Duke's biggest weakness is Center but there are only a half dozen guys rated higher than Zoubek/Miles, and most are not speed merchants. They rank pretty low on PF's too but have a lot of options with Thomas, the Plumlees and Kelly and every ACC team has someone pretty good or better than pretty good at PF (not better than Duke's trio).
GA Tech needs for its 4* PG Udolfia to fare as well as Drew II, and for either Peacock to play well enough they can move Lawal to SF or Mo Miller to play well enough they can move Shumpert to SF. I assumed the former.
They also have a brutal unbalanced ACC Schedule having to play UNC, Duke, Clemson, FSU and Wake home and home.
Clemson's two biggest needs are for Noel Johnson to be able to replace Ogelsby @ SG and for Milton Jennings to be able to play SF aside Sykes and Trevor Booker in a different set than they had with KC Rivers.
BC has the same need as UNC and GA Tech (and FSU), Point Guard, and has to hope Reggie Jackson can somewhat make up for loss of Tyrese Rice. They are basically same team as least year without their leader.
Wake needs their 4* Ari Stewart to come through at SF and for Chas MacFarland to be consistent and stay out of foul trouble, as opposed to consistently get into foul trouble, They lack depth but have Ish Smith, LD Williams, Aminu and MacFarland, and some potential backup centers in Woods and Walker.
FSU, like UNC, GA Tech and BC needs their PG to play well enough to somewhat make up for loss of Toney Douglas. They also need Ryan Reid to play well enough @ PF than they can plays Chris Singleton at SF, 7-foot Solomon Alabi at center, rookie 5* Snaer @ SG/SF. So they like Duke have to play SG JUCO x-fer Kitchen or Snaer at PG if either has those skills or else go with light weights Dulkys and Loucks.
Miami is hard to figure out. They seem covered at every position but could not win with the same guys and McClinton last year. Collins, Dews, Hurdle, McGowan, Dequan Jones has to live up to his 5* rating from last year, Rios and Degand Scott a new 5. May not have a go to guy.
VA Tech has some quality but lacks depth. Malcolm Delaney and Jeff Allen are consistent. J.T. Thompson, and Dorenzo Hudson have some potential and they are hurting at center and depend on Raines C-9 4* or Davila and no bench. Seth plays all his guys 30 plus minutes anyway.
Maryland is basically same team as last year without Dave Neal the giant 6'7 260 who roamed the perimeter. Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne, some other decent guards and have to depend on Williams C-16 4* or Braxton Dupree or get killed on boards with no PF/C. If not, Milbourne probably has to move from SF to PF where every ACC team has someone better.
UVA is pretty much just Sylvan Landesberg and Mike Scott. Calvin Baker, Sam Zeglinski, Jamil Tucker and Jeff Jones are okay and they have a new 4* Spurlock SF-18, and an returning 4* Brandenberg C-16.
NC State has Tracy Smith and is hurting everywhere else after losing Costner, MacCauley & Fells and JJ Hickson the year before. The Red coat will try to keep score close with Horner, Gonzales, Degand, Feguson, Painter PF-20 4*, and Howell PF-16 4*.
Point Guards:
Delaney PG-13 4*
Scheyer SG-3 5* has to play out of position
Stitt PG-18 4*
Hayes PG-19 4*
Hurdle G JC 1*
Smith, Ish PG-17 4*
Drew II PG-4 4*
Udolfia 4* PG-5
Jackson SG-24 4* has to play out of position
ZeglinskiPG NR 3*
Kitchen SG JC 4* has to play out of position
Young PG-6 4*
Rios PG-16 4*
Miller PG-20 3*
Loucks PG-22 3*
Gonzales PG-30 3*
Paris PG NR 2*
Foreman G NR 1*
Combo Guards
Vasquez SG-25 4*
Shumpert SG-5 5*
Ginyard SG-15 4*
Smith, Nolan SG-7 4*
Sanders SG-21 4*
Dews SG-28 4*
Williams, LD SF-26 3*
Snaer 5* SG-3
Scott, D 5* SG-5
Tucker, J SG-24 4*
Baker, C SG NR 2*
Mosley SG-8 4*
Hudson SG-16 4*
Strickland 4* SG-8
MacDonald 4* SG-12
Johnson, Noel 4* SG-13
A. Dawkins 5* SG-3 2010
Jones, Jeff SG -22 4*
Wings
Singler SF-1 5*
Lawal PF-7 5* if Peacock can play PF and Favors center
Landesberg SF-8 4*
Singleton PF-5 5* if Reid can play PF
Henson 5* PF-1 if he can defend SF
Raji SF NR 3*
Jennings 5* PF-8 if he can defend aside Booker and Sykes
Jones, Dequan SF-5 5* needs to live up to his potential
Graves SF-18 4*
Potter SF-21 3*
Horner SF-22 3*
Stewart 4* SF-8
Smith, Tanner SF-22 3*
Williams, CJ SF-28 3*
Bowie SF-28 3*
Thompson, JT PF-31 4* unless Allen plays center and he plays PF, then who?
Tucker, C SF-32 3*
DeMercy SF NR 3*
Bell SF-35 3* if JT Thompson plays PF
Roche SF-39 3*
Spurlock 4* SF-18
Forwards - everybody in ACC is pretty good here unless some have to play Center
Booker, T. PF-24 4* with Sykes
Aminu SF-4 5* with MacFarland
Trapani PF NR 2* with Southern
Allen PF-13 4* may have to play center and regain weight he lost
Davis PF-3 5* considered Deon the center
Smith, Tracy PF-18 4* may have to play center or Painter
Scott, Mike PF-19 4* assuming Brandenberg can play center
Collins PF-22 4* considered McGowan the center
Thomas PF-4 5* or Mason Plumlee or Kelly
Zeller PF-7 5* considered Henson the SF
Kelly 5* PF-4 with Lance Thomas and Plumlees
Plumlee, Mason 5* PF-6 with lance Thomas and Kelly
Reid PF-22 4* so Singleton can play SF
Peacock PF-30 4* so Lawal can play SF
Milbourne SF-33 3* undersized but who else?
Plumlee, Mi PF-14 4* probably plays center alternating with Zoubek
Wear , D PF-13
Wear, T PF-14
Howell 4* PF-16
Booker, D 4* PF-17
Painter PF-20 4* may have to play center if Tracy Smith does not
Weaver PF NR 3*
Wicher PF NR 3*
Centers
Thompson, D C-5 4*
Alabi C-5 5*
Favors C-1 5*
MacFarland C-26 3*
Sykes C NR 3*
Southern C-23 4*
Zoubek C-7 4* when Plumlees are not in post
McGowan C-8 4* with Collins considered PF
Walker C-4 5*
Davilla C-21 3*
Woods C-10 4*
Raines C-9 4* or Davilla or else Jeff Allen plays center
Gibson C-13 4*
Baciu C-14 4*
Dupree C-16 4* or frosh Williams
Brandenberg C-16 4*
Williams C-16 4* or Dupree
Sheehan C-22 3*
Gamble C-27 3*
Sene C-23 3*
Grant C-29 3*