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johnb
04-04-2009, 04:34 PM
At the moment, it appears that Jeff Capel is our most successful alumni coach. Obviously, the jury is out on at least a half dozen other guys, and a certain amount of coaching is good fortune and timing (having a POY makes coaches look good), and he did have a father who was a long-time coach, but was it obvious to anyone at the time that he'd eclipse some guys whose playing careers were more spectacular?

Maxwell1977
04-04-2009, 05:23 PM
At the moment, it appears that Jeff Capel is our most successful alumni coach. Obviously, the jury is out on at least a half dozen other guys, and a certain amount of coaching is good fortune and timing (having a POY makes coaches look good), and he did have a father who was a long-time coach, but was it obvious to anyone at the time that he'd eclipse some guys whose playing careers were more spectacular?

Two words, Blake Griffin.

cspan37421
04-05-2009, 06:01 AM
Yes, but having a great big man is no guarantee of success - just ask Kentucky or Georgetown. Jeff's a very "Capelable" coach - he did well at VCU, too. Also, it's not uncommon that great coaches were merely average players (see K, Knight), and the best players don't always make good coaches (see Magic, Isiah).

bjornolf
04-05-2009, 08:34 AM
From what I've heard, K was a lot more than an "average" player. He was recruited by some big schools, and his parents "told" him to go to West Point. Knight was saying that K "shut down" one of the best players in the country one time in a big game, and he always got his. If he had gone to one of the big name schools, he might be well known as a player as well as a coach.

Edouble
04-05-2009, 11:49 AM
At the moment, it appears that Jeff Capel is our most successful alumni coach. Obviously, the jury is out on at least a half dozen other guys, and a certain amount of coaching is good fortune and timing (having a POY makes coaches look good), and he did have a father who was a long-time coach, but was it obvious to anyone at the time that he'd eclipse some guys whose playing careers were more spectacular?

I'd actually say that it's a tie between Capel and Quinn right now, with both coaches having one Elite Eight appearance. If Jeff goes on to do more great things, as it appears that he will, he can definitely take the top spot for himself. At this point, while he seems to have more potential for success, I don't think he has actually had more success.

msdukie
04-05-2009, 11:59 AM
I'd actually say that it's a tie between Capel and Quinn right now, with both coaches having one Elite Eight appearance. If Jeff goes on to do more great things, as it appears that he will, he can definitely take the top spot for himself. At this point, while he seems to have more potential for success, I don't think he has actually had more success.

Capel = no baggage.

Quinn = baggage.

Icarus09
04-05-2009, 12:24 PM
Capel = no baggage.

Quinn = baggage.

One could also argue that Capel is proving to be a more capable recruiter too, With Blake, Warren, Mason-Griffin, and Keith Gallon coming over the past few years.
Furthermore, Snyder's best overall record was only 24-12 (his elite eight year). In Capel's second year at Oklahoma they went 23-12 and then of course 30-6 this year. Although their tenures in the Big 12 conference are different, Capel's is slightly better (.583) to Quin's .528. To be fair, the NCAA probation did make a turn for the worse in 2004.