Kfanarmy
02-24-2009, 03:52 AM
Thought it might be kind of interesting to compare this season with a couple of others to see if the discussions about inordinate number of three point shots being taken, lack of depth, poor efficiency (too much dribbling/passing), were born out by numbers.
I chose the 2000-2001 championship season and 2005-2006 (Redick's senior season) to compare with how the Duke men are performing at this point in the season.
Numbers are below.
comparing three point shooting, one would think based on some comments, that an increased number of attempts would increase the likelihood of a loss unless the team is shooting really well. The Championship team shot an average of 27 threes per game at just under 39%. This year's team is shooting 7 fewer, and hitting 5% less, meaning they are making 3.5 fewer threes (10.5 points) but are also missing 3.2 fewer times. The championship team shot from 3 point range over 40% of the time; This year's version is just under 34%. Halfway through the season the impact of the one foot extension to the 3pt shot had made less than .5% change in major conference shooting percentage, so this year's team doesn't shoot quite as well as the championship version, but is taking 7 fewer threes per game. It does not appear that this team is shooting an inordinate number of threes when compared to 00-01 or the 2005-6 team. That team shot only .7 fewer per game, and made only .8 more. Unless someone believes all three years were too reliant on the three, the numbers don't seem to argue that this team in particular is hoisting too many. A couple of players have had shooting slumps which may account for the perception as much as anything else.
Bench keeps coming up as an issue, and I've seen it addressed elsewhere, but the NC team and 05-06 had 2 fewer people averaging over 10 min/game than the current squad.
It is difficult to analyze how much time is spent getting into the offense, "needless dribbling," "useless passing around the perimeter" and other descriptors some have used to critique offensive pace and efficiency of this team. The real issue to me is whether or not the dribbling/passing leads to points or bad shot attempts and turnovers. The Championship team played at a faster pace than either of the other teams, and had significantly more assists. Turnovers are about the same in raw numbers, but probably indicate that the championship team committed fewest TOs per possession while the 05-06 team was least efficient in handling the ball...so this year's team is somewhere in between.
High assist numbers generally mean to me that a team is passing effectively to gain a positional advantage and more open shots. Lower assist numbers can mean ineffective passing or a reliance on individual efforts to get open/get to the basket. Individual effort on offense, I think, wears jump shooters down in end-of-game scenarios making them less likely to get open or hit open shots. This year's team is not getting a lot of assists, comparatively, which makes me wonder if greater emphasis on, or execution of, effective passing in the half-court throughout the game would increase overall shooting percentage.
I was surprised that this team is shooting 5 more shots per game than the 05-06 team did and given the rest of the stats, wonder if the number of losses the team has at this point doesn't say something about the comparative strength of the ACC between 05-06 and now.
The 2001 championship team had three losses by Feb 24th, while the 05-06 team only had one. Having two fewer losses didn't mean the 05-06 team was going to finish better...the 90-91 Championship team, coincidentally, had 5 losses at this point.
I would prefer to see assist numbers significantly higher, but don't think the Duke team is shooting too many threes, don't think they are playing to few players, and don't think they aren't handling the ball effectively...I believe if everyone on this team is shooting reasonably well, there is no reason why they can't beat UNC in the rematch, win the ACC tourney, or make a deep run in the NCAA tourney.
2000-2001 Season: average of 27.1 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 48.1; 3pt fg% 38.5; 64.8 attempts/game; 18.0 APG ; 13.6 TO/gm
7 players playing more than 10min/game
record at this point in season 25-3
finished 34-5 National Champions
2005-2006 Season: average of 19.6 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 48.7 3pt fg% 38.8; 55.0 attempts/game; 15.2 APG; 13.7 TO/gm
7 players playing more than 10min/game
record at this point in season 26-1
Finished 32-4 lost in sweet 16
2008-2009 Season: average of 20.3 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 45.5 3pt fg% 33.6; 60.2 attempts/game; 14.0 APg ; 13.2 TO/gm
record 22-5
9 players playing more than 10 min/game
I chose the 2000-2001 championship season and 2005-2006 (Redick's senior season) to compare with how the Duke men are performing at this point in the season.
Numbers are below.
comparing three point shooting, one would think based on some comments, that an increased number of attempts would increase the likelihood of a loss unless the team is shooting really well. The Championship team shot an average of 27 threes per game at just under 39%. This year's team is shooting 7 fewer, and hitting 5% less, meaning they are making 3.5 fewer threes (10.5 points) but are also missing 3.2 fewer times. The championship team shot from 3 point range over 40% of the time; This year's version is just under 34%. Halfway through the season the impact of the one foot extension to the 3pt shot had made less than .5% change in major conference shooting percentage, so this year's team doesn't shoot quite as well as the championship version, but is taking 7 fewer threes per game. It does not appear that this team is shooting an inordinate number of threes when compared to 00-01 or the 2005-6 team. That team shot only .7 fewer per game, and made only .8 more. Unless someone believes all three years were too reliant on the three, the numbers don't seem to argue that this team in particular is hoisting too many. A couple of players have had shooting slumps which may account for the perception as much as anything else.
Bench keeps coming up as an issue, and I've seen it addressed elsewhere, but the NC team and 05-06 had 2 fewer people averaging over 10 min/game than the current squad.
It is difficult to analyze how much time is spent getting into the offense, "needless dribbling," "useless passing around the perimeter" and other descriptors some have used to critique offensive pace and efficiency of this team. The real issue to me is whether or not the dribbling/passing leads to points or bad shot attempts and turnovers. The Championship team played at a faster pace than either of the other teams, and had significantly more assists. Turnovers are about the same in raw numbers, but probably indicate that the championship team committed fewest TOs per possession while the 05-06 team was least efficient in handling the ball...so this year's team is somewhere in between.
High assist numbers generally mean to me that a team is passing effectively to gain a positional advantage and more open shots. Lower assist numbers can mean ineffective passing or a reliance on individual efforts to get open/get to the basket. Individual effort on offense, I think, wears jump shooters down in end-of-game scenarios making them less likely to get open or hit open shots. This year's team is not getting a lot of assists, comparatively, which makes me wonder if greater emphasis on, or execution of, effective passing in the half-court throughout the game would increase overall shooting percentage.
I was surprised that this team is shooting 5 more shots per game than the 05-06 team did and given the rest of the stats, wonder if the number of losses the team has at this point doesn't say something about the comparative strength of the ACC between 05-06 and now.
The 2001 championship team had three losses by Feb 24th, while the 05-06 team only had one. Having two fewer losses didn't mean the 05-06 team was going to finish better...the 90-91 Championship team, coincidentally, had 5 losses at this point.
I would prefer to see assist numbers significantly higher, but don't think the Duke team is shooting too many threes, don't think they are playing to few players, and don't think they aren't handling the ball effectively...I believe if everyone on this team is shooting reasonably well, there is no reason why they can't beat UNC in the rematch, win the ACC tourney, or make a deep run in the NCAA tourney.
2000-2001 Season: average of 27.1 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 48.1; 3pt fg% 38.5; 64.8 attempts/game; 18.0 APG ; 13.6 TO/gm
7 players playing more than 10min/game
record at this point in season 25-3
finished 34-5 National Champions
2005-2006 Season: average of 19.6 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 48.7 3pt fg% 38.8; 55.0 attempts/game; 15.2 APG; 13.7 TO/gm
7 players playing more than 10min/game
record at this point in season 26-1
Finished 32-4 lost in sweet 16
2008-2009 Season: average of 20.3 attempted 3's per game.
fg% 45.5 3pt fg% 33.6; 60.2 attempts/game; 14.0 APg ; 13.2 TO/gm
record 22-5
9 players playing more than 10 min/game