Tommy Amaker to Harvard

[davec]

From today's Boston Globe:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_basketball/articles/2007/04/05/jarvis_will_interview_for_crimson_today/

[feldspar]

Interesting. Former assistant/player under K in Tommy and close friend of K in Mike Jarvis both competing for the same job (although it looks as thought Harvard is more interested in Tommy than Tommy in Harvard).

[Farlan]

This story made me remember back to the "Harvard -- the Duke of the North" t-shirts that the student store sold years ago. Good luck to Tommy -- he is one of the nicest guys out there.

[throatybeard]

I remember that shirt very well because I owned it, and wore it like three times a month or something when I was in 8th grade.

I'm now terribly embarrassed for ever having owned it and regard such as an indiscretion of youth. It's a key document in the history of textbook Duke SHRYMP-envy, USNews-worshiping, and generalized arrogance.

[Duvall]

I remember that shirt very well because I owned it, and wore it like three times a month or something when I was in 8th grade.

I'm now terribly embarrassed for ever having owned it and regard such as an indiscretion of youth. It's a key document in the history of textbook Duke SHRYMP-envy, USNews-worshiping, and generalized arrogance.

SHRYMP-envy? Stanford/Harvard/Radcliffe/Yale/MIT/Princeton?

[throatybeard]

Yep.

http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2000/05/18/UndefinedSection/Arts-Sciences.Professors.Hear.New.Admissions.Stats-1452086.shtml

[EagleDevil]

Radcliffe? Do all Harvard women grads formally get a Radcliffe diploma? Because I know the other top women's colleges aren't competing against Duke.

Chris

[throatybeard]

Radcliffe? Do all Harvard women grads formally get a Radcliffe diploma? Because I know the other top women's colleges aren't competing against Duke.

Chris

I've often wondered that.

The Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radcliffe_College) seems to indicate that they've been fully legally merged since 1999. From 1977-99, the degrees awarded to women were dual. If this is correct. So not anymore, apparently.

I assume Radcliffe is included in SHRYMP because nobody could think up a clever acronym if they tried to include Cal Tech instead. Or Chicago, or WashU or...

Barnard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_College) apparently still exists somewhat independently from Columbia. Vassar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassar_College) went co-ed in 1969 rather than merge with Yale.

Cue quotations of multiple Simpsons Seven Sisters jokes.

[Tappan Zee Devil]

Yeah - Barnard is independent, although all classes are cross registered as are classes at Union Theological (and I believe at least some at Jewish Theological and Manhattan School of Music). Columbia tried to absorb Barnard, mainly to get control of their endowment, which is huge. However, Barnard was able to fight them off. Women can apply either to Barnard or to Columbia and the two schools have a separate faculty and separate departments. In my area (Earth Sciences), the Barnard Department concentrates on environmental issues and leaves us to teach the basic geology courses (structural geology, stratigraphy, mineralogy, sedimentology, geophysics, etc). But a lot of our students end up taking environmental classes from them, so it works out.

Jim

[Jim3k]

I remember that shirt very well because I owned it, and wore it like three times a month or something when I was in 8th grade.

I'm now terribly embarrassed for ever having owned it and regard such as an indiscretion of youth. It's a key document in the history of textbook Duke SHRYMP-envy, USNews-worshiping, and generalized arrogance.

That line was always a joke. When I got to Duke in 1960, the school was facetiously being called the 'Harvard of the South.' So the natural response was that Harvard was the 'Duke of the North.' No one ever took that seriously. It was just fun, not arrogance. No one at Duke in the 60's believed we were anywhere near as good as Harvard. We were good; we didn't think we were the best as Harvard (or maybe Yale or Princeton) was/were all ahead of us. We were Duke. And that was (and is) damn fine.

So if anyone mistakes that line for arrogance, please put them straight.

[YmoBeThere]

I've often wondered that.

Or Chicago, or WashU or...

WashU really? Coming from out west in the late '80's, Wash U was never on the radar screen at my public high school where we routinely put a few people(6-7) into the Ivy's(high and low)/Stanford/Chicago and when I went Duke. Perhaps it has risen due to the US News mentality?

[Bob Green]

Congratulations and good luck to Tommy Amaker. I'll be following the Ivy League next year.

Bob Green
Yokosuka, Japan

[CTDukeFan]

As a Yalie, I'm going to have trouble cheering for Amaker at Harvard, but it would be great to have someone of his stature in the Ivy League.

[RelativeWays]

Graduated from Harvard of the South so I guess Amaker would be a shoe-in.

[hc5duke]

Graduated from Harvard of the South so I guess Amaker would be a shoe-in.

That's funny... I coulda sworn my shirt from freshman year said "Harvard - Duke of the North"...

[devilmon]

At least he didn't go to Princeton. Go Tommy!

Penn '96

[efudd]

According to Andy Katz, Harvard will announce Amaker's hiring on Friday:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2833517

[JJweMISSu]

One thing good about going to Harvard, dont have to worry about keeping you teams grades up.

[vango]

One thing good about going to Harvard, dont have to worry about keeping you teams grades up.

.....but it has gotta be tough to field a team without offering athletic scholarships.

I have to think he will succeed there. U of M was a tough place coming off the probationary period and dealing with, what I understand, is woeful facilities for a school like that....

Good luck to him -