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Tommac
11-19-2008, 08:24 PM
My 10-12 year old Honda mower is worn out. The self propelled mechanism is busted. The repair shop estimates that it will cost $320 to fix it. I really don't want to put that much money in a mower this old even though the emgine still runs great. This is my second Honda mower since 1983, so I would like another but the cost is really high. Consumer Reports rates a Honda #1 which is similar in features to my old one but it costs about $729 ($800 list). They have a self propelled Toro model with similar features listed as the best buy at $350. One feature that sold me on Hondas 25 years ago is the blade brake clutch which allows one to stop the blade without stoping the engine. This feature is on most Hondas but only on the Toro electric start model.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Should I just wait until next spring?

OZZIE4DUKE
11-19-2008, 10:57 PM
One feature that sold me on Hondas 25 years ago

Does anyone have any suggestions? Should I just wait until next spring?

I haven't cut my own grass since before you bought your first Honda. Actually, I was looking at a Honda to replace my Lawnboy when I decided it was best to let someone else to spend their time pushing that dang thing while I played golf.

But to your question, while the Honda will probably last longer than the Toro, at much less than half the price and barely more than the repair cost of your current mower, I suggest you buy the Toro. Even if it lasts only half as long as the Honda, you're still dollars ahead. And this time of year you'll probably be able to negotiate and even better deal on the mower, even if it is on sale. I suggest you offer them $250 (or less) and work your way up to $285, final offer. I bet you walk out with the mower. My late father-in-law used to buy Toro's. He loved the smooth, even cut they gave the grass. Better him cutting grass than me.

Dr. Rosenrosen
11-19-2008, 11:42 PM
I've had a self-propelled Troy-Bilt for four years now and never had an issue. It's got a briggs and stratton engine. Pretty darn solid. The key to good performance and long life is simple maintenance. Keep your blade sharp, change the oil, clean the air filter, you're good to go. I have a hard time believing the Honda will actually cut the grass better than a mid-priced model that you maintain properly.

dukemomLA
11-20-2008, 02:13 AM
Toro, toro, toro. Just an opinion from someone who has mowed numerous lawns for many, many years.

allenmurray
11-20-2008, 10:14 AM
I buy really cheap lawnmowers and then replace them sans guilt. Next time I will be getting a goat.

Devil in the Blue Dress
11-20-2008, 11:40 AM
I have a John Deere walk behind with the features you say you want. It costs less than the Honda, runs great and cuts well..... as they say, "Nothing runs like a Deere." My mother is still using an earlier version of the same mower.... 15-20 years.

hurleyfor3
11-20-2008, 11:53 AM
In these tough economic times, isn't the best way to boost the local economy to let the kid down the block do it for you?

rsvman
11-20-2008, 12:19 PM
Keep your blade sharp, change the oil, clean the air filter, you're good to go.

Agree with the maintenance issue, and I'll add one more crucial point: NEVER store your mower away with gas in it. In other words, at the end of the season, let the mower run until it is bone dry. This will help avoid a lot of carburetor problems.

Indoor66
11-20-2008, 01:33 PM
In these tough economic times, isn't the best way to boost the local economy to let the kid down the block do it for you?

Wouldn't that be the local yard maintenance company?

Indoor66
11-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Agree with the maintenance issue, and I'll add one more crucial point: NEVER store your mower away with gas in it. In other words, at the end of the season, let the mower run until it is bone dry. This will help avoid a lot of carburetor problems.

Back in my days of having lawn mowers in temperate climates I used Sta Bil (http://www.goldeagle.com/sta-bil/index.htm) to protect my mower from gas destabilization. It worked well for me. I never had a problem with my mowers. I further agree that clean oil, clean air filter and a sharp blade are also critical to mower life.

Tommac
11-20-2008, 01:38 PM
In these tough economic times, isn't the best way to boost the local economy to let the kid down the block do it for you?

Actually I have a 17 year old healthy son who needs a kick in the butt to get him to mow for me.:)

throatybeard
11-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Lawn Mower Recommendations?

Move to a dwelling with no lawn.

Indoor66
11-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Move to a dwelling with no lawn.

Yea, I did that about 15 years ago.

UrinalCake
11-25-2008, 01:48 PM
I have a battery-powered mower. It takes a little getting used to, but I wouldn't have it any other way. No fuel, oil, pollution, smells, or pull-starts to worry about. Handles my 1/4-acre yard just fine.

Exiled_Devil
11-25-2008, 02:09 PM
ROBOMOWER!!! (http://www.friendlyrobotics.com/)

End of discussion.

alteran
11-25-2008, 02:50 PM
I buy really cheap lawnmowers and then replace them sans guilt. Next time I will be getting a goat.

We had a friend who did exactly this. They somehow got goats that don't eat grass. Then the dang things developed health problems.

They still had to get a lawnmower.

alteran
11-25-2008, 02:53 PM
I dunno. I love my Toro. LOVE it.

But then again, I have to replace the thing every 5 years. Just like every other lawnmower. But I tend to let the dealer do maintenance every winter, so maybe that's my problem.

Still, if you got 15 years out of your Honda, I say go with that.

Turk
11-25-2008, 03:29 PM
I have a 15 year old Sears that goes fine - but it's simple - no self propelled or any other add-ons. I'll echo the essential need for good maintenance - empty the gas tank every winter (if you have winter), put in new oil every spring, air filter, spark plug, and sharpen / replace the blade every other year, and that's it.

Can't imagine what kind of lawn / terrain would kill a mower every 5 years.

2535Miles
11-25-2008, 04:10 PM
I have a 15 year old Sears that goes fine - but it's simple - no self propelled or any other add-ons. I'll echo the essential need for good maintenance - empty the gas tank every winter (if you have winter), put in new oil every spring, air filter, spark plug, and sharpen / replace the blade every other year, and that's it.

Can't imagine what kind of lawn / terrain would kill a mower every 5 years.
Southern California is ripe with mower killing terrain.

rasputin
11-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Wouldn't that be the local yard maintenance company?

Joe the YardMan.

alteran
11-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Can't imagine what kind of lawn / terrain would kill a mower every 5 years.

Well, there is a bit of a apples-to-oranges problem here, which is completely my fault.

First, my idea of a lawn mower needing replacement is different than that of most here, something I didn't think about when I posted. I don't actually run my mowers until they completely die, I run them until they start burning enough oil to concern my wife, who knows too much about the dangers of motor emissions.

My yard is .4 acres. That's not so bad, but there's probably about 2 floors worth of yard grade front to back. Since my mowers are self-propelled, I imagine I'm taxing the engine pretty hard. Furthermore, my backyard is next to a stormwater runoff creek, so the backyard grass is very thick and is often damp well into the afternoon. I frequently mow it damp and the engine chokes out a lot, which can't be good-- but hey, it keeps the neighbors happy.

I imagine my yard is harder than most on a mower, particularly one that is self-propelled.