Zeller Injures Wrist

[BlueintheFace]

It appears that Zeller has injured his wrist on a fast break play against Kentucky. The extent of the injury is unknown, but it would be the third significant one for the Tarheels (Hansbrough- Shin.... Ginyard- Foot).

[Johnboy]

Kentucky has the butt-ugliest uniforms I've seen since NC State sported unitards. Yikes are they hideous.

They may have had them last year, too, but I didn't watch a Kentucky game last year.

[godukecom]

and on a meaningless play too....

[BlueintheFace]

Erin Andrews said it "looked swollen" about 30 seconds after he went down.

[Edouble]

Erin Andrews said it "looked swollen" about 30 seconds after he went down.

As he "walked by". She also noted that she is "not a doctor".

[CLT Devil]

This might be a biased opinion, and I saw it only on the replay, but I didn't see where the KY defender even touched Zeller. The crowd was calling for his head (typical Tarhole ignorance) and I think they ended up charging him with a Tech, but did anyone see anything to warrant a T? It seems he got hurt more on landing, like he tried to grab the board with his left hand to slow his fall, missed, which resulted in him coming down awkward.

Anyway, hate to see anyone get hurt, especially when the game is in the bag like that. On a brighter note for the 'holes, Thompson seems to have significantly improved his jumper....albeit against a KY team that looked disjointed all night.

[BlueintheFace]

As he "walked by". She also noted that she is "not a doctor".

hahaha... oh really Erin?

Also, Roy apparently has said "it doesn't look good."

[Cali-Duke]

on the replay, it looks like he hit his wrist against the backboard

[Got_Duke]

Kentucky is terrible, after watching the UNC-KY game. I also think Gillespie is extremely overrated. I don't see much team discipline with Kentucky, or chemistry for that matter. And I'm so glad VMI beat them. Patrick Patterson's quote saying they'd be cutting down nets in Detroit went to crap as soon as he said it, being that Kentucky hasn't proved much other than the fact they belong in DII. If he makes it to Detroit, it won't be because his team made it there, he'll be a spectator.

[Bob Green]

Hopefully Zeller's injury is minor and he recovers quickly. I hate seeing players get hurt.

[Gunnar Kaufman]

hahaha... oh really Erin?

Also, Roy apparently has said "it doesn't look good."

Of course, Roy's not a doctor, either.

[sandinmyshoes]

This might be a biased opinion, and I saw it only on the replay, but I didn't see where the KY defender even touched Zeller. The crowd was calling for his head (typical Tarhole ignorance) and I think they ended up charging him with a Tech, but did anyone see anything to warrant a T? It seems he got hurt more on landing, like he tried to grab the board with his left hand to slow his fall, missed, which resulted in him coming down awkward.

Anyway, hate to see anyone get hurt, especially when the game is in the bag like that. On a brighter note for the 'holes, Thompson seems to have significantly improved his jumper....albeit against a KY team that looked disjointed all night.


He got him solid with the body. On the replays the contact can't be seen because the Zeller kid's body is blocking the view. It was a stupid foul, but not a dirty one. The UK player was only charged with a foul, not a technical nor even an intentional foul.

I think they should clear people and equipment out from under the basket. Even when players don't crash into all that stuff, you can often see them landing awkwardly in an attempt to avoid the clutter. I'm not sure it is responsible for this particular injury, but everytime I see a player falling into it I get annoyed.

[hurleyfor3]

Also, Roy apparently has said "it doesn't look good."

I hope he wasn't referring to Erin.

[davekay1971]

Obviously, even though he's a 'Hole, I hope he's not seriously injured. From my ABC POV, I don't think it matters much - I don't think the kid's ready to contribute significantly, rather than to be a body to give Flopborough a rest. I'm sure he's going to be good, and I'll be loathing him by his junior year, but for right now he looks very raw. Davis looked a lot more ready to contribute for the 'Holes this year.

What I couldn't figure out was whether UNC was as good as KY made them look. KY was awful. Plain and simple, they came out playing lazy, stupid, disorganized basketball, with no movement on offense and no defense whatsoever. They didn't run back to defend breaks. They looked worse than just lost, they looked like they didn't care. I was amazed that they hung around 15-20 points back in the 2nd half (though by then I was watching Davidson and only switching over to the KY Jelly game on breaks). Even without Hanstravel and Ginyard, UNC probably should have put them down by 40 or more.

[jv001]

Kentucky is terrible, after watching the UNC-KY game. I also think Gillespie is extremely overrated. I don't see much team discipline with Kentucky, or chemistry for that matter. And I'm so glad VMI beat them. Patrick Patterson's quote saying they'd be cutting down nets in Detroit went to crap as soon as he said it, being that Kentucky hasn't proved much other than the fact they belong in DII. If he makes it to Detroit, it won't be because his team made it there, he'll be a spectator.

Kentucky is just bad. No defense and no disipline on offense. Poor coaching. Patterson got just what he deserved. The only nets he will cut down may be when he becomes the janitor. Go Duke!

[wilko]

Kentucky is just bad. No defense and no disipline on offense. Poor coaching. Patterson got just what he deserved. The only nets he will cut down may be when he becomes the janitor. Go Duke!

Wow.
I hope thats just the annoyance of watching the heels win ... again ... coming thru. And the frustration that we are seemingly having issues with our post play VERY early in the year. Cuz it bugs me too.

But to say the guy is going to be a janitor...
Seems harsh.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

He got him solid with the body. On the replays the contact can't be seen because the Zeller kid's body is blocking the view. It was a stupid foul, but not a dirty one. The UK player was only charged with a foul, not a technical nor even an intentional foul.

I think they should clear people and equipment out from under the basket. Even when players don't crash into all that stuff, you can often see them landing awkwardly in an attempt to avoid the clutter. I'm not sure it is responsible for this particular injury, but everytime I see a player falling into it I get annoyed.

I watched it live and it appeared to me the Kentucky player kind of stood over Zeller and stared him down after the foul. Then later you saw him walk over to Zeller once he realized it was more serious. I got the sense he went after the ball but my immediate reaction when watching it live was that it was with too much aggression. Guaranteed if that had happened to one of our players, Duke fans would have been calling for his head on a platter.

I agree re: all the people and crap under the baskets and just behind the baselines. Everyone and everything should be moved back. It's not like it would hurt video coverage or photo opps.

[ArtVandelay]

Great handle, Dr. Rosenrosen. Which way is the records room?

[KenTankerous]

Kentucky is terrible, after watching the UNC-KY game. I also think Gillespie is extremely overrated. I don't see much team discipline with Kentucky, or chemistry for that matter. And I'm so glad VMI beat them. Patrick Patterson's quote saying they'd be cutting down nets in Detroit went to crap as soon as he said it, being that Kentucky hasn't proved much other than the fact they belong in DII. If he makes it to Detroit, it won't be because his team made it there, he'll be a spectator.

It pains my bluegrass soul to admit it but, aside from the VMI glee & DII gibberish, I have to agree whole heartedly with this. Gillespie has made no improvements over his lumbering, disjointed first year. He has the horses. He has the support. He has the program. He just doesn't have the personal ability to bring it all together.

Thankfully, there is something else he doesn't have - a contract.

[BlueintheFace]

I watched it live and it appeared to me the Kentucky player kind of stood over Zeller and stared him down after the foul. Then later you saw him walk over to Zeller once he realized it was more serious. I got the sense he went after the ball but my immediate reaction when watching it live was that it was with too much aggression. Guaranteed if that had happened to one of our players, Duke fans would have been calling for his head on a platter.

I agree re: all the people and crap under the baskets and just behind the baselines. Everyone and everything should be moved back. It's not like it would hurt video coverage or photo opps.

... I think you read into body language way too much. I made the journey over to IC just to see how angry they were and 90% of the posters seemed to believe it was just an unfortunate foul and that their was no intent...now that is saying something.

[Kedsy]

Kentucky is just bad. No defense and no disipline on offense. Poor coaching. Patterson got just what he deserved. The only nets he will cut down may be when he becomes the janitor. Go Duke!

I thought Kentucky looked bad, but I thought Patterson looked pretty good. He could have contributed a lot to Duke's team had he come.

Unlike some others, I don't harbor ill will toward recruits that decide to attend other schools.

[CMS2478]

They are saying on IC that he broke his wrist and it will require surgery. Possibly done for the year. Not sure if that is confirmed but if true, that really sucks for the young kid. Never want to see that. :(

[RepoMan]

Thankfully, there is something else he doesn't have - a contract.

Is that right? I vaguely recall that issue, but forgot how it was resolved. I generally hate seeing knee-jerk coaching changes, but I was very dubious of this hire at the outset. If I was Kentucky, I wouldn't let this go past the end of this season. Simply put, there is no reason that KY shouldn't have one of the best coaches in the country. They can do much better than Gillespie.

Strangely, despite all the Duke / KY banter over the last 15 years or so, it bothers me to see them look so bad. When UNC v KY is a "who cares" game, something is just wrong. I guess it reminds me of the fragility of success.

We need to enjoy it while we have it.

[jipops]

Is that right? I vaguely recall that issue, but forgot how it was resolved. I generally hate seeing knee-jerk coaching changes, but I was very dubious of this hire at the outset. If I was Kentucky, I wouldn't let this go past the end of this season. Simply put, there is no reason that KY shouldn't have one of the best coaches in the country. They can do much better than Gillespie.

Strangely, despite all the Duke / KY banter over the last 15 years or so, it bothers me to see them look so bad. When UNC v KY is a "who cares" game, something is just wrong. I guess it reminds me of the fragility of success.

We need to enjoy it while we have it.


Hmm, I've been looking around and I still haven't been able to find that "Has Kentucky's legacy crumbled?" article. Can't seem to locate it on talk radio either. Interesting...

[roywhite]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8817864/Source:-UNC-loses-star-freshman-Zeller-for-season

It is being reported as a season-ending injury. Hate to see that.

[JasonEvans]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8817864/Source:-UNC-loses-star-freshman-Zeller-for-season

It is being reported as a season-ending injury. Hate to see that.

Redshirt. This means that Zeller will be around FOREVER to torment us.

Pity, this kid seemed like he could really play.

--Jason "this is really good for Davis as I think Zeller was clearly ahead of him" Evans

[Bluedog]

They are saying on IC that he broke his wrist and it will require surgery. Possibly done for the year. Not sure if that is confirmed but if true, that really sucks for the young kid. Never want to see that. :(

Yeah, what a shame. Definitely unlucky accident. Wish him the best. He's shown great promise and would have been a good backup for Hansbrough. I find it always interesting how an unrelated topic on IC turns into a Duke-bashing topic. In this case, bashing Coach K for talking about starter's being in at the end of the game when G fouled hanblahblah. <sigh> I should know by now not to go over there.

[jipops]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8817864/Source:-UNC-loses-star-freshman-Zeller-for-season

It is being reported as a season-ending injury. Hate to see that.

All ACC Coaches especially K now need to be very careful in their post-game comments concerning their own injury issues. Roy is likely to be very sensitive on this topic, dadgummit.

[Huh?]

That's terrible, I think that is a pretty big loss for the holes. Multiple fractures? His wrist will probably never be the same. Good luck to the guy, I liked his game.

[dukelifer]

That's terrible, I think that is a pretty big loss for the holes. Multiple fractures? His wrist will probably never be the same. Good luck to the guy, I liked his game.
I think but do not know that this is his non-shooting hand which is good for him. He will be able to shoot and practice a bit this year. He will be yet another in a long line of UNC Tylers we will be dreading for years to come- now one year later than expected.

[ClosetHurleyFan]

Yeah, but honestly when UNC starts playing the michigan state and Texas teams of the world and gets into ACC, Ed Davis's penchant for rebounding and banging will probably shine through a lot more. He is averaging 12 rebounds a game in about 22 minutes of action a game. I actually think Zeller would have started to get lost a bit in the tougher more physical games forthcoming. He was a non-existant rebounder.....If Deon keeps playing this way, UNC will be in great shape up front, especially if they can steal a few minutes from Copeland to round out a 4th option

[Creflo Dollar]

--Jason "this is really good for Davis as I think Zeller was clearly ahead of him" Evans

I completely disagree. Roy Williams said that Zeller was only starting because Davis missed a lot of practice time, but Davis was clearly gaining on him in terms of production. At the time Zeller went down, he had 2 points and 2 rebounds in about 20 minutes, and Davis had 9 points and 10 rebounds in about the same amount of time. I think Davis would have gotten the most minutes in big games, because unlike Zeller he rebounds well in traffic.

[sandinmyshoes]

I've only seen them for two games, but Davis appears to be a better defender and rebounder. He was fairly crafty down in the paint on offense but that was about it. Zeller looked to run the floor better and worked hard on setting screens, and had a nice shooting touch.

I wonder if the "likely out for the season" is one of those things where technically he could come back for that last two to four weeks but it wouldn't be worth burning a season of eligibility for that considering UNC's depth?

[Diddy]

This kid looks like a player. Looking at UNC, I wasn't really sure who they had that could cover Singler. The bigs were too slow and the players who were quick enough were too small. But Davis seems just right. Singler is very skilled, and probably stronger, but Davis is really tall and has long arms. I think he will be at least a capable defender for Singler.

Man, that UNC rotation is just killer. There is no obvious weak point, especially if Deon plays like that regularly.

[MChambers]

As of 3:45 pm, "Tyler Zeller" ranked in the top ten at www.google.com/trends/

Not sure what this says about our use of the Internet.

[Bluedog]

As of 3:45 pm, "Tyler Zeller" ranked in the top ten at www.google.com/trends/

Not sure what this says about our use of the Internet.

That's not as strange as "hp officejet pro l7680" ranking number 9. To bring this back on topic, Davis and Zeller provided slightly different styles of play that could complement each other. I think that when Hansbrough comes back, Davis is a better player to complement, but Zeller might provide some backup minutes to Hansbrough. And then there's Deon...they just have too many players. At least only 5 can play at a time.

[SMO]

All ACC Coaches especially K now need to be very careful in their post-game comments concerning their own injury issues. Roy is likely to be very sensitive on this topic, dadgummit.

I'm sure he will. Hopefully no local radio shows make up quotes that would upset him!

In all seriousness, this is unfortunate. I've wondered a lot lately why Duke has been hit hard by injuries in recent years and no other teams seemed to have the same issue. Perhaps it's just bad luck that has come around.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Redshirt. This means that Zeller will be around FOREVER to torment us.
Maybe, but fortunate for him it happened early enough in the year. Hate seeing a season ending injury for anyone, but at least he gets another season.

[quickgtp]

Wait until next year when we have:

Singler 6'8
Thomas 6'8
Zoubek 7'1
Mi. Plumlee 6'9
Ma. Plumlee 6'10
Kelly 6'9
Czyz 6'7

VS.

Davis 6'9
Henson 6'10
D. Wear 6'9
T. Wear 6'9
Zeller 7'0
Thompson 6'8

I like our chances.

[Huh?]

Wait until next year when we have:

Singler 6'8
Thomas 6'8
Zoubek 7'1
Mi. Plumlee 6'9
Ma. Plumlee 6'10
Kelly 6'9
Czyz 6'7

VS.

Davis 6'9
Henson 6'10
D. Wear 6'9
T. Wear 6'9
Zeller 7'0
Thompson 6'8

I like our chances.

Can Zoubek redshirt??

[RelativeWays]

Too bad for Zeller, that kid seems to have a true post presence and he more than held his own against PP. If it is a season ending injury, he'll have the next 4 years to torment us (and he looks to be a good player) and in a weird way it may helt with UNC's chemistry not having so many players to juggle. Best of luck to Tyler Zeller and his recover. Once he gets better, though :D

[dukelifer]

This kid looks like a player. Looking at UNC, I wasn't really sure who they had that could cover Singler. The bigs were too slow and the players who were quick enough were too small. But Davis seems just right. Singler is very skilled, and probably stronger, but Davis is really tall and has long arms. I think he will be at least a capable defender for Singler.

Man, that UNC rotation is just killer. There is no obvious weak point, especially if Deon plays like that regularly.
The only weak points seem to the body parts of the players (shin, foot, wrist).