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Bob Green
10-19-2008, 11:57 PM
Vanderbilt has opened in Las Vegas as a 14 point favorite over Duke. Both Duke and Vanderbilt have dropped their last two games to conference opponents. We are going to need a solid performance for 60 minutes in order to secure a victory on the road in Nashville.

YmoBeThere
10-20-2008, 07:15 AM
Vandy plays in a seriously tough conference.

We are 3-7 lifetime against them and have lost the last 6. The most recent being the 2006 loss at home.

For me this is a coin flip, I win or lose either way(Duke undergrad/Vand grad) though I have a stronger affinity for Duke athletics.

HaveFunExpectToWin
10-20-2008, 10:13 AM
Vandy plays in a seriously tough conference.

We are 3-7 lifetime against them and have lost the last 6. The most recent being the 2006 loss at home.

For me this is a coin flip, I win or lose either way(Duke undergrad/Vand grad) though I have a stronger affinity for Duke athletics.

Vandy needs this victory to become bowl eligible for for the first time since '82. This is definitely our best shot to get the 6th win, after Duke it's UF, UK, UT, and Wake, all of which should Vandy be the underdog.

Bob Green
10-22-2008, 06:49 AM
Here are some links to articles on the game:

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081022/SPORTS0602/810220418/1002/SPORTS

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081021/SPORTS0602/810210339/1002/SPORTS

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1608373

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_football/story/3784632/

http://www.newsobserver.com/734/story/1263840.html

http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102008aah.html

wilson
10-22-2008, 11:37 AM
Vandy needs this victory to become bowl eligible for for the first time since '82. This is definitely our best shot to get the 6th win, after Duke it's UF, UK, UT, and Wake, all of which should Vandy be the underdog.

Kentucky and Tennessee (seriously) will also be solid possibilities...where are those games?

I'll be really impressed if we can pick up this win on the road. I think Vandy would be an 8- to 9-win team in the ACC. I think the 14-point line might be a little high, though.

On a side note, what's the story on TV for the game?

HaveFunExpectToWin
10-22-2008, 12:56 PM
No TV, but you should be able to get it on the radio, XM 192 or otherwise.

This Duke game really frightens me. During the recent 2005 season Vandy was 4-0 then lost 5 of the last 6 games, including one to MTSU, which like this Saturday's Duke game, was generally thought to be a probable win.

Cutcliffe knows Vandy from his years in the SEC and Duke's got much less pressure on this game (14 point underdogs, playing on the road, etc). It's got to be hard for Vandy to get the thought of ending the bowl streak out their heads.

Also note that Vandy hasn't won on Homecoming since 2002.

DevilAlumna
10-23-2008, 12:35 AM
For me this is a coin flip, I win or lose either way(Duke undergrad/Vand grad) though I have a stronger affinity for Duke athletics.

Ditto.

What a great turnaround year for both teams. I remember thinking, when seeing the schedule come out last year, "Oh good, at least one team will come away with a win!" I never would have expected that the outcome of the game would have any appreciable bowl impact for at least one team.

Bob Green
10-24-2008, 04:48 AM
Here are some thoughts on the game from a Nashville newspaper:

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=63596

YmoBeThere
10-24-2008, 06:58 AM
Vandy needs this victory to become bowl eligible for for the first time since '82. This is definitely our best shot to get the 6th win, after Duke it's UF, UK, UT, and Wake, all of which should Vandy be the underdog.

I wouldn't have put Vandy as an underdog against UK or Wake. In particular, Wake because they just don't play the same level of competition.

RelativeWays
10-24-2008, 07:35 AM
Not to mention, Wake's offense sucks. If we can pull out an upset on the road tomorrow, I think we have a chance to get a two game winning streak (possible 3 game with NCSU). Even if we can't beat Vandy, I really like our chances against Wake. Something tells me that we're going to beat them in Winston this year. I think Vandy will destroy wake by 17 when they play in November.

Acymetric
10-24-2008, 10:56 AM
No TV, but you should be able to get it on the radio, XM 192 or otherwise.

Technically it is on espn360 too, if you get that. You have to subscribe to Verizon high speed internet, and I think one other provider supports it as well. There is also some provision for any computer from a ".edu IP address" being able to access it. Does that mean I could go over to State or *shudder* Carolina and watch the game in a friends room? Interesting...

Also, for some positive spin on two of our losses this year, GT and Northwestern are both in the top 25 for BCS standings.

HaveFunExpectToWin
10-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Nope, not on espn360.com either. There's no video coverage. Oh well.

I was hoping that Vandy would do a PPV deal similar to the Miss State game and I'd get it on Gameplan, but that's not happening. I think there are a lot of tickets left for sale.

Acymetric
10-24-2008, 04:38 PM
Nope, not on espn360.com either. There's no video coverage. Oh well.

I was hoping that Vandy would do a PPV deal similar to the Miss State game and I'd get it on Gameplan, but that's not happening. I think there are a lot of tickets left for sale.

My mistake. I was thinking about the Wake Forest game, which is on espn360. My bad. Radio and gametracker it is.

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:03 PM
ITS GAME TIME IN TENNESSEE

Vandy won the toss, deferred. Duke will recieve ball first

Big game, game thread heree

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:15 PM
Mike Tauilili just got a INT in Vandy territory.

The snap on the field goal hits the holder in the head.

No points, bad break

AtlBluRew
10-25-2008, 03:16 PM
Has anyone found the broadcast online? WZKY isn't carrying it.

YmoBeThere
10-25-2008, 03:24 PM
I got a Vandy broadcast..but I don't know how I got it. Well, I went to Vandy's website, clicked a few times and on it came. goduke.com should have it

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:27 PM
Has anyone found the broadcast online? WZKY isn't carrying it.

Here is the link:

http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=vand&media=75082

AtlBluRew
10-25-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks for link!

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:36 PM
no problem

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:39 PM
After 1st Quarter:

0-0, Vandy has 3rd down in the red zone.

Duke's offense is looking good, questionable call on 3rd and 1 on a good drive.

good game so far, GO DUKE!!!

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Vandy misses 33yd field goal!!!

duke gets the ball.

looking good right now.

GO DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Nice goal stand by defense..still 0-0!

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Surgan misses 50 yard field goal

good attempt though

a sack on 3rd and 10 really hurt.

duke needs to keep defense up or this is going a lot like the georgia tech game

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 04:07 PM
6:14 to go in the first half and it is still 0-0. Duke just executed a 12 play drive but missed a field goal. The good news is the drive keep our defense off the field.

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 04:13 PM
nice to see offense putting on a couple good drives. penalties are hurting us at the wrong times..grr

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 04:16 PM
TOUCHDOWN DEVILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 yard touchdown from Lewis to freshman Tony Jackson!!!


Under a minute to go in the first half.

Duke up 7-0!!!

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 04:16 PM
7-0 Duke. Thaddeus Lewis to Tony Jackson for a 23 yard TD pass.

Oriole Way
10-25-2008, 04:26 PM
Wow, I believe Duke blocked a Vandy punt in their red zone. Lewis immediately got sacked for a loss of 13, but still in FG range.

Lavabe
10-25-2008, 04:28 PM
Wow, I believe Duke blocked a Vandy punt in their red zone. Lewis immediately got sacked for a loss of 13, but still in FG range.

No points on the possession after the blocked punt.

UGH!:mad:

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 04:40 PM
No points on the possession after the blocked punt.

UGH!:mad:

agreed..penalties killed us...shoulda been a field goal at least, just got moved back to far

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-25-2008, 04:48 PM
As Coach just said on the post half time interview, we've hung in there with a team ranked 18th. two weeks ago. In fact, we dominated the second quarter despite our mistakes (there were plenty!). Being a second half team is what it will take to win.

I'm so proud of our defense! Intercepted pass, sacked QBs, blocked a kick!

Turn it on, Duke!

Back to the game!

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 05:09 PM
It is now 10-0 after Duke converts a fumbled punt into a field goal. Vandy has turned it over on their own 13 and 15 yard line and we have 3 points to show for it. We need to do a better job capitalizing on our opponents mistakes.

TNTDevil
10-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Arrrrgggghhhh! A #$%*ing fumble in the RZ?!? You gotta' be kidding me...

We have to be able to convert on these opportunities!

RepoMan
10-25-2008, 05:28 PM
It is now 10-0 after Duke converts a fumbled punt into a field goal. Vandy has turned it over on their own 13 and 15 yard line and we have 3 points to show for it. We need to do a better job capitalizing on our opponents mistakes.

Not to mention stop taking sacks in the red zone.

killerleft
10-25-2008, 05:31 PM
Vandy gets long TD pass early in the 4th, 10-7. Duke should have at least 6 more points.

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 05:32 PM
Those red zone missed opportunities loom large as Vanderbilt strikes for a 79 yard TD pass. Duke leads 10-7 with 13:20 to play.

RepoMan
10-25-2008, 05:37 PM
Seems like our punter is en fuego

AtlBluRew
10-25-2008, 05:48 PM
I had knots in my stomach on Vandy's 3Q drive. Much better after they missed the FG!

killerleft
10-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Vandy misses tying field goal. Over 7 mins. left. 43 yarder.

Oriole Way
10-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Can't believe we couldn't convert 2nd and 2 in Vandy territory.

MulletMan
10-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Duke ball after Vandy goes on 4th and 6!!!

killerleft
10-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Vandy goes for it from their own 20 on 4th down, incomplete pass with 2:30 left. Vandy has 3 timeouts left.

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:04 PM
Duke loses 16 yards on 3 plays, Riley called for off. pass interference. 3rd and 27 from the 36 yd. line. Incomplete pass, clock stopped.

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:07 PM
Vandy starts at their 8 2:00 left. Vandy to 34 yd. line on pass.

rthomas
10-25-2008, 06:08 PM
Duke loses 16 yards on 3 plays, Riley called for off. pass interference. 3rd and 27 from the 36 yd. line. Incomplete pass, clock stopped.

What's happening? Time left?

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:09 PM
Vandy gets to own 49 short pass. 1:00 left

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 06:10 PM
What's happening? Time left?

1:01 to play. Vandy has the ball around midfield. 3rd and 10.

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 06:11 PM
First down for Vandy. :49 seconds left.

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:11 PM
3rd and 10 for Vandy. QB runs for 1st down to 39, 49 tics left

JasonEvans
10-25-2008, 06:12 PM
Vandy just completed a 4th and 10 with under a minute left. Yikes!!

Oriole Way
10-25-2008, 06:13 PM
Man get a stop for cying out loud. Pathetic performance by the offense and the defense on these last two sequences.

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 06:13 PM
Duke intercepts on the one yard line.

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:13 PM
Duke intercepts at 1 yard line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lewis takes knee.

Oriole Way
10-25-2008, 06:13 PM
INT... now there's a stop.

summerwind03
10-25-2008, 06:15 PM
This was a very interesting way to follow this! Thanks for the posts! I'm pumped. Go Duke!

killerleft
10-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Should be last play coming up. Lewis takes knee and Duke WINS!!!! 4-3 record! Whew!

rthomas
10-25-2008, 06:16 PM
How much time? ESPN has over a minute still.

AtlBluRew
10-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Congrats to our Blue Devils for a victory .. and one on the road at that!

camcraz25
10-25-2008, 06:17 PM
WOOHOOOO let's go Duke! The espn handheld (blackberry) stats were over a minute of game-time behind. So I had to come up to my computer to check the score :)
P.S. I go to Auburn for grad school...so does this mean Duke is better than Auburn?? haha

rthomas
10-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Forget what I just asked. That is Awesome!

RepoMan
10-25-2008, 06:18 PM
Huge win! Congrats.

And, Cut surely has some talking points for improvement. This team is close to being pretty darn good. Beating an SEC school is an achievment. Well done

Cicero
10-25-2008, 06:18 PM
Awesome. I love the fact that WE made the decisive play to win (interception). This is the kind of win that our football team needs to shed the losing mentality that has weighed down the program over the last several years.

calltheobvious
10-25-2008, 06:18 PM
Congratulations, men. Absolutely tremendous.

shereec
10-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BlueintheFace
10-25-2008, 06:19 PM
I don't even remember when we couldn't buy a win...

Newton_14
10-25-2008, 06:20 PM
Big Big Big Win!

Congrats to the team. This was huge and helps tremendously in the confidence department. Way to go Cut & Boys!

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 06:21 PM
Congrats on the road win guys...great game. Amazing thing, we had been talking about how corners are our vulnerability on D..and as far as I know, the corner is the one who came with the INT at the goal line..awesome!

4-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! still a winning season!!!

Sixthman
10-25-2008, 06:25 PM
Winning ugly is an important right of passage!

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 06:26 PM
And, Cut surely has some talking points for improvement.

Our red zone offense was less than impressive. The coaching staff will surely address that issue in upcoming practices.

This was a huge win for the team. Congratulations!

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Winning ugly is an important right of passage!

Agreed. But it is a Rite of Passage.

RelativeWays
10-25-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm at a loss for words, this is excellent. Definitely a win to build off of. If we can keep the focus for WF and State, who knows what will happen. The team should be very proud of themselves.

OZZIE4DUKE
10-25-2008, 06:30 PM
Congratulations on a hard fought win. Now let's beat Wake and State to become Bowl eligible!

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 06:33 PM
I mentioned in the snrubchat that it was shades on NW a year ago. It's been wins like that one, and losses like NW this year, that made today possible. This team has seen the good and bad of close games, the defense was outstanding. With that interception, the D claimed it as their victory.
And #34 is the man! One fumble, one INT, tons of presence.

Sixthman
10-25-2008, 06:33 PM
Agreed. But it is a Rite of Passage.

You are so right about the rite.

Acymetric
10-25-2008, 06:33 PM
Hey, we are overlooking something else important here...we ruined someone's homecoming! How exciting!

CameronBornAndBred
10-25-2008, 06:41 PM
Cut just said "down to our last corner, we had two healthy" Incredible.

Acymetric
10-25-2008, 06:49 PM
http://vucommodores.cstv.com/

Hey, good lookin' whites too.

heyman25
10-25-2008, 07:27 PM
Amazed. This is definitely a new mentality for Duke Football!

Acymetric
10-25-2008, 08:18 PM
I wonder if that interception could be a "game changing moment" on ESPN? Or does it have to be from an ESPN game for that? I'd love to see it in a replay somewhere...

Highlander
10-25-2008, 08:22 PM
I felt before the season that a three win team would meet my expectations for what an established coach could do in his first year. With today's win, this team has officially surpassed my expectations, and Duke football hasn't done that in a LOONG time. The fact that we will go into November with a winning record for the first time since 1995 is pretty exciting.

My hat's off to the team today for gutting out an ugly victory for our first road win of the season (and against an SEC opponent). Vanderbilt is a team that we should be able to compete with on paper, but the past few years we've hardly even come close to even making it a game. Not so today. Great job by the defense today.

IMO, Duke Football is playing with house money for the rest of the season, and I'll consider this a successful season no matter what happens. That being said, our next two games are certainly winnable, and as crazy it may sound, being bowl eligible this season isn't out of the question.

4-3 and it feels SOOOO good!

CDu
10-25-2008, 08:30 PM
IMO, Duke Football is playing with house money for the rest of the season, and I'll consider this a successful season no matter what happens. That being said, our next two games are certainly winnable, and as crazy it may sound, being bowl eligible this season isn't out of the question.

4-3 and it feels SOOOO good!

We have a very winnable game against NC St. Win that one, and we're at 5 wins. Man - if we could have just pulled out that Northwestern game. But I agree on both points. We're playing with house money at this point, and we have an outside chance at bowl-eligibility.

We'll probably be the underdogs in four of our final five games though. For it to happen, it'll take an upset (or two). But man, what a great season it's been so far. Hopefully this is a building block to (more permanent) respectability!

PumpkinFunk
10-25-2008, 08:39 PM
What a great win. It's too bad I could only get it on the radio, but it sure was I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.ing impressive by our team. It was an ugly game - those happen at every level - but we managed to pull it off with a bit of luck both ways.

2 more!!! And a winning season 7 games in? Unimaginable

TNTDevil
10-25-2008, 08:41 PM
I felt before the season that a three win team would meet my expectations for what an established coach could do in his first year. With today's win, this team has officially surpassed my expectations, and Duke football hasn't done that in a LOONG time. The fact that we will go into November with a winning record for the first time since 1995 is pretty exciting.

My hat's off to the team today for gutting out an ugly victory for our first road win of the season (and against an SEC opponent). Vanderbilt is a team that we should be able to compete with on paper, but the past few years we've hardly even come close to even making it a game. Not so today. Great job by the defense today.

IMO, Duke Football is playing with house money for the rest of the season, and I'll consider this a successful season no matter what happens. That being said, our next two games are certainly winnable, and as crazy it may sound, being bowl eligible this season isn't out of the question.

4-3 and it feels SOOOO good!
Truth.

P.S. I can't wait for the NC State game. It's always been a classic, even with our "old" teams, so this year... look out!

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-25-2008, 09:06 PM
Truth.

P.S. I can't wait for the NC State game. It's always been a classic, even with our "old" teams, so this year... look out!
You are absolutely right!

Next Saturday we've got Wake, an up and down team this year. We can beat Wake!!!!!

Go Duke! Beat Wake!!!!

OZZIE4DUKE
10-25-2008, 09:19 PM
Next Saturday we've got Wake, an up and down team this year. We can beat Wake!!!!!

Go Duke! Beat Wake!!!!

We should have beaten Wake the last two years, but what could have been, was. This year will be different -- we WILL beat Wake!

kinghoops
10-25-2008, 09:21 PM
very,very good win, might not have been the prettiest game, but it is a win!! i liked coach cuts comment on the postgame about making so many mistakes and still winning! look forward to another conference win next week!

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-25-2008, 09:23 PM
We should have beaten Wake the last two years, but what could have been, was. This year will be different -- we WILL beat Wake!
Amen to that! What a great way to begin the month of November!

Acymetric
10-25-2008, 09:29 PM
So I was just thinking about this, even if we get 6, we'll need a bit of luck to get a bowl. Right now it looks like at least 8 teams will be bowl eligible in the next two weeks (not counting Duke). There are 3 teams vying for that 9th guaranteed bowl: Duke, Clemson, and Wake. Gotta pull for Clemson and Wake to lose out, also give some extra motivation to go in and beat them in their own homes.

Also, just saw the half time report for the Tennessee game, they poked fun and Vandy for losing, but didn't really say anything at all about Duke. I don't even know if they said the words "Duke beat Vandy" or "Vandy lost to Duke." Just put the score on the screen and implied that Vandy might not be bowl eligible at the end of the year.

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 10:00 PM
There are no words to describe this feeling

but after we beat wake next week, are bowl clinching game will be against ncsu.

unbelievable game, im left speechless

Bob Green
10-25-2008, 10:29 PM
...but after we beat wake next week, are [sic] bowl clinching game will be against ncsu.


Two more victories will make us bowl eligible but it will not guarantee we receive a bowl game invitation. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We need to take these games one at a time and the first business we must take care of is Wake Forest. I'm confident we can defeat the Demon Deacons who are struggling on offense.

DownEastDevil
10-25-2008, 10:31 PM
Hey, we are overlooking something else important here...we ruined someone's homecoming! How exciting!

One of the HR reps where I work is a graduate from Vandy and he came by my office Thursday to let me know he was on the way to the game and was glad to have Duke as their homecoming patsy. Boy have I got something for him Monday.

PumpkinFunk
10-25-2008, 10:43 PM
Two more victories will make us bowl eligible but it will not guarantee we receive a bowl game invitation. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We need to take these games one at a time and the first business we must take care of is Wake Forest. I'm confident we can defeat the Demon Deacons who are struggling on offense.

I agree here. 4 of our final 5 opponents have some glaring holes we can exploit.

Wake's offense is struggling and without Sam Swank, they did terrible against Maryland and lost to Miami as well. They're going to win 6 games, I'd think, but they have some issues to work out before they can do that.

NC State is just all-around not so good. Florida State ripped through their offense in the end to come from behind, and their offense did little to help.

Clemson has extremely low morale after their season to date and, barring a comeback after the off week, is likely to keep underachieving.

VA Tech is the most solid team of our last 5, but has some offensive weakness, most notably the pass - something we might be able to exploit. Our pass D isn't strong, but against a weak passing team, we might have some luck. At VTech is notoriously a hard place to play, though, so I don't see much luck here.

Carolina is Carolina. Throw all the odds out. Throw out all that people say they're better than us. There should be a lot of passion on our side. I hope other students come back/stay for the game like I am.

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-25-2008, 10:48 PM
The way Duke played the first half against Miami, I thought my birthday gift request would be granted: a homecoming win. Today I know that my birthday gift is the win at Vanderbilt's homecoming!

HaveFunExpectToWin
10-25-2008, 11:01 PM
I am incredibly depressed. The highs of Gameday and beating Auburn seem like years ago. I don't wish being a Vandy fan on anyone.

Good luck to Duke for the rest of the season.

-bdbd
10-25-2008, 11:27 PM
Wow!

This is great - and maybe the oddsmakers will start taking us a little more seriously after favoring Vandy by 14 at one point!

This helps in so many ways... Team morale will be up, and we'll view those close games down the stretch as "winable" now, as opposed to previously looking for ways "not to lose." Even if we didn't win another game, we have clear "progress" to look at. Coach Cut and staff have clearly had a major impact -- in attitude, execution, pride, fan following and, importantly, in recruiting. I see us pointing to this record, potential bowl eligibility (or at least fighting for bowl eligibility) , as a big tool for luring wavering big-time recruits to come our way. We ALREADY can offer playing time to those 3 and 4-star kids, but NOW they can see where we are headed (a big difference). We're not "there" yet, but the road certainly seems a bit better lit now...

You gotta feel good for the Senior and Junior players who've lived through a few years of disappointments, to finally see tangible results. Very cool.

Of the remaining games, I'd REALLY love to see us win at least 2 more and qualify for a Bowl...Remember that 9 out of 12 ACC teams have Bowl ties/commitments. Heck, I'd even take that new DC Bowl played around Dec 21 at Nationals Park here in DC, though northern Calif in late-Dec. doesn't sound so terrible either!

I'd rank the "winability" of remaining games in this order:
1. NCSU
2. Wake
3. Clemson
4. UNC
5. VPI
And only VPI would really be a stretch at this point.

Way to go Devils!!

-BDBD :-)

P.S. Went to the ESPN scoreboard afterward and enjoyed the write-up, box score and results/photos, but found the fans' chatboard there pretty humorous. Seems like every SEC-hater in the country took this opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and taunt Vandy/SEC that this was "proof" of the SEC's inferiority. Kinda silly that, as SEC is VERY strong at the top. But even people who were obviously Duke haters were jumping on to compliment the team's upholding ACC honor (but using the derisive spelling of Dukies - gotta love those Terp and Kerlina fans....). Give the classy Vandy fans credit, as more than a couple came on to congratulate Duke, and none of them said bad stuff about us or our performance in the game. (If, for example, it were a win in College Park you KNOW the fans there would ALL be blaming the refs or some such...) ;-)

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 11:35 PM
Two more victories will make us bowl eligible but it will not guarantee we receive a bowl game invitation. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We need to take these games one at a time and the first business we must take care of is Wake Forest. I'm confident we can defeat the Demon Deacons who are struggling on offense.

Yes I know. But the ACC gets a lot of bowl bids, and Clemson and NC State are not looking like bowl teams. A 6-6 record should get them a bowl bid, but your right, we need to take the games seriously

Im goin next week in winston-salem.

Gonna be a blastttttttt.

devildeac
10-25-2008, 11:36 PM
Our red zone offense was less than impressive. The coaching staff will surely address that issue in upcoming practices.

This was a huge win for the team. Congratulations!

Listened to most of it with Bob Harris making the calls while we lingered on campus after the exhibition game and waited to go out to dinner with our daughter (it's Parents Weekend). So many missed chances that would have made our lead 13-0, 17-0 or even 20-0. But ultimately a very satisfying W in soooo many ways. Congrats, gentlemen. I'm looking for a few injuries to heal and an outstanding effort against the Deacs. No ambivalence here, I want a Duke win next Saturday. Badly.

devildeac
10-25-2008, 11:47 PM
97 FB posts.
45 BB posts.
Impressive.

I thought this was DBR:D.

wolfpackdevil
10-25-2008, 11:52 PM
97 FB posts.
45 BB posts.
Impressive.

I thought this was DBR:D.

I like the stats a lot.

We might have to start a Football thread sooner or later

RelativeWays
10-26-2008, 12:16 AM
It should be noted that this thread is at 5 pages where the VU thread is only 3. Sure it was only an exhibition but this is the time of year where we conveniently forget about football and anticipate every basketball activity that Duke engages in. Hope this shows the guys that yes, we Duke fans are very much still with the football team. I'd hate to say it, but I was anticipating the football game today more than the exhibition game. Our guys flubbed against Miami but they rose to the challenge, they won ugly, but they won and thats what counts. If they can cut down the penalties under control, and get the field goal kicking back on track, we'll win at least one more game this year if not more. I really think we can beat Wake.

ricks68
10-26-2008, 12:42 AM
I was hoping on the outside for 3-4 wins this season. I never imagined we'd have 4 for sure. It feels soooooooooo good! Looking forward to the rest of the season. I think we finally have the right coach. I know we have the right coach. Go Devils! Congratulations to everyone.

ricks

davekay1971
10-26-2008, 08:25 AM
Great win! Congratulations to the team. I really thought that beating Vandy, at Vandy, would be a big upset. What's amazing is that Duke could have really dominated the scoreboard, made a bunch of mistakes, and still won. Awesome.

Duke's going to have to bring it against Wake. That is a proud team that's going to come in looking at the game as an absolute must-win. We have to match their intensity. Duke certainly can win, and I hope we do. Stringing together back-to-back road wins against quality teams would make a statement that even the most irrational Duke-hater could not deny - that Duke football has to be taken seriously.

Faison1
10-26-2008, 09:10 AM
What an amazing season so far!!! To think this team is only a few plays away from being 6 and 1. I never would have thought it was possible. I thought this season would be a success by winning just a couple. But beating Virginia, Navy and Vandy!! That's HUGE!!

Keep up the GREAT work, Cut! We are all very proud of the work you are doing. What a great feeling!!!

killerleft
10-26-2008, 09:35 AM
RelativeWays says:

"It should be noted that this thread is at 5 pages where the VU thread is only 3."

This is how it should be. Instead of wondering for the 10th thread since last year if Marty or Zoubs will contribute much in 2008-2009, we can live in the present football season without fear of depression.

One reason basketball has become synonymous with the ACC is the woeful national accomplishments of the football programs during the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

Basketball will remain as popular as ever (for those horrified by the DBR having football talk).

I grew up loving Duke sports. In the mid-sixties Duke football was still drawing sellout crowds regularly and was as important as basketball to Duke fans. This fan hopes to see the days of a wild and raucous Wallace Wade Stadium return - and soon!

dcarp23
10-26-2008, 10:11 AM
I apologize if this was asked earlier in this thread and I missed it while reading, but does the JMU win mean Duke would need 7 wins to become bowl eligible? Is the criterion a .500 record over D-1A opponents?

CameronBornAndBred
10-26-2008, 10:26 AM
I apologize if this was asked earlier in this thread and I missed it while reading, but does the JMU win mean Duke would need 7 wins to become bowl eligible? Is the criterion a .500 record over D-1A opponents?

I don't believe so. Some schools, like FSU, even played 2 FBS schools, I can't imagine they would want to hurt their overall chances by forcing themselves to have a record of at least 8 wins.

loran16
10-26-2008, 11:00 AM
I apologize if this was asked earlier in this thread and I missed it while reading, but does the JMU win mean Duke would need 7 wins to become bowl eligible? Is the criterion a .500 record over D-1A opponents?

No. NCAA rules allow for 1 win over a D-1AA team to count for bowl eligibility (some teams play 2 of these teams, but the 2nd one doesn't count for eligibility).

Now, we may need 7 wins for a bowl simply because i think NC State is going to be the only other team not to be bowl eligible, and the ACC only has 9 tie-ins.

phaedrus
10-26-2008, 11:21 AM
It should be noted that this thread is at 5 pages where the VU thread is only 3.

Technically, aren't they both VU threads?

Great win. I didn't watch the game, and maybe Vandy is down, but this is the most impressive football win I can remember.

CameronBornAndBred
10-26-2008, 12:34 PM
No. NCAA rules allow for 1 win over a D-1AA team to count for bowl eligibility (some teams play 2 of these teams, but the 2nd one doesn't count for eligibility).

Now, we may need 7 wins for a bowl simply because i think NC State is going to be the only other team not to be bowl eligible, and the ACC only has 9 tie-ins.

If we beat WFU next weekend, it will help our chances very much to make it with only 6. If we lose, then a 6 win season will probably not equate into a bowl, but will just as deserving of celebration.

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-26-2008, 01:10 PM
Technically, aren't they both VU threads?

Great win. I didn't watch the game, and maybe Vandy is down, but this is the most impressive football win I can remember.
How I look at football wins in changing. It's dawned on me that this somewhat subtle shift in thinking is part of a changing culture, even among optimists! The old way I looked at wins was often in terms of the other team's situation that allowed us to win. Now I look at football wins in terms of what Duke has done or will do to win. If we're going to be winners, we can no longer define ourselves strictly in terms which reflect some aspect of each team which allows us to win. Stated another way using a term popularized in "business speak," there is a change in paradigm taking place. We are Duke!

jimsumner
10-26-2008, 01:52 PM
"I didn't watch the game, and maybe Vandy is down"

Actually, this is one of the better Vanderbilt teams in recent years. Admittedly, that's sitting the bar on the low side but Vandy started out 5-0 and was nationally ranked just a few weeks ago and has been beating some SEC heavies.

phaedrus
10-26-2008, 02:05 PM
"I didn't watch the game, and maybe Vandy is down"

Actually, this is one of the better Vanderbilt teams in recent years. Admittedly, that's sitting the bar on the low side but Vandy started out 5-0 and was nationally ranked just a few weeks ago and has been beating some SEC heavies.

I know they started the season well. I meant "down" in comparison to the top-25 team they were perceived as earlier in the season. Of course, they're still the same team, but for whatever reason they're not playing as well anymore.

But they're still a very good team, and we beat them on the road.

RainingThrees
10-26-2008, 02:51 PM
Did anyone watch his show that was on I think about 12 on the local fox channel in NC? It was pretty good and had a play-by-play call from Cut on the games highlights.

Acymetric
10-26-2008, 02:54 PM
Did anyone watch his show that was on I think about 12 on the local fox channel in NC? It was pretty good and had a play-by-play call from Cut on the games highlights.

Nope, would have liked to see it though. I wonder if it'll show up online somewhere.

Jarhead
10-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Did anyone watch his show that was on I think about 12 on the local fox channel in NC? It was pretty good and had a play-by-play call from Cut on the games highlights.
He's on with Bob Harris at noon every Sunday on WTVD, ABC 11 in the Triangle. They give a pretty good recap of the game including highlights, and they have interviews with players and coaches. It's worth a watch. I believe it's still also shown on Fox Sports South later each week. The show is in the same time slot as Coach K's Inside Basketball coming probably in December.

PumpkinFunk
10-26-2008, 04:08 PM
No. NCAA rules allow for 1 win over a D-1AA team to count for bowl eligibility (some teams play 2 of these teams, but the 2nd one doesn't count for eligibility).

Now, we may need 7 wins for a bowl simply because i think NC State is going to be the only other team not to be bowl eligible, and the ACC only has 9 tie-ins.

I think that, regardless, if there's more than 9 bowl-eligible teams, and we're part of it, the likelihood of a bowl is low unless we have 8+ wins. Duke fans are notoriously bad travelers for football, and therefore we're an undesirable team for any of them, with the small exception of the one in Charlotte or the one in DC.

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-26-2008, 04:53 PM
I think that, regardless, if there's more than 9 bowl-eligible teams, and we're part of it, the likelihood of a bowl is low unless we have 8+ wins. Duke fans are notoriously bad travelers for football, and therefore we're an undesirable team for any of them, with the small exception of the one in Charlotte or the one in DC.
Should we be invited to the bowl in DC, I want to travel with the band!

OZZIE4DUKE
10-26-2008, 04:58 PM
Should we be invited to the bowl in DC, I want to travel with the band!

I think that bowl game is on Saturday, December 20th, the same day we play Xavier at the Meadowlands at 2 p.m., which would preclude me from going to the bowl game, which would really upset me.

patentgeek
10-26-2008, 05:03 PM
I think that, regardless, if there's more than 9 bowl-eligible teams, and we're part of it, the likelihood of a bowl is low unless we have 8+ wins. Duke fans are notoriously bad travelers for football, and therefore we're an undesirable team for any of them, with the small exception of the one in Charlotte or the one in DC.

I would submit that we really don't have a lot of data about the traveling habits of Duke football fans when following a team that has a reasonable shot at winning games. It's not as though we've had a chance to evaluate travel habits for a decent team in quite a while. I would think that, after 14 years of no bowl game and, to make matters worse, no winning seasons, it's probably not fair to assume that Duke fans wouldn't travel, particularly if the game were relatively close to North Carolina (like DC).

DevilCastDownfromDurham
10-26-2008, 05:21 PM
Late to the party, but I wanted to chime in on what a great win this is. Obviously any win is gratifying, but it's hard to overstate what this should mean for the team's confidence going forward. As others have noted, a big part of Cut's battle now is erasing the perception that we will find a way to lose close games in the minds of the players, other teams, and the general public. A close win over a good team like this, where we make a specific good play to seal the victory, is worth 5 JMU blowouts, IMO.

After the Miami game I said that any more wins were gravy, and I stand by that. Our margin for error is razor thin. Given where we started from, this season is already a success and then some. Congrats to everyone who committed themselves to take this first giant step on a long and rewarding road to Duke football success. I'm delighted that we're getting to cheer the team on every step of the way.:)

Papa John
10-26-2008, 05:49 PM
I think that, regardless, if there's more than 9 bowl-eligible teams, and we're part of it, the likelihood of a bowl is low unless we have 8+ wins. Duke fans are notoriously bad travelers for football, and therefore we're an undesirable team for any of them, with the small exception of the one in Charlotte or the one in DC.

Um... There are, what, 34 bowls this year? More than half of D-1 programs will play in a bowl... Duke doesn't need 8+ wins... 7 will do... Having said that...

Vandy was a solid win, on the road, against a legit BCS opponent that appears to be headed to a bowl... I'd love to see us go a-bowlin', but I think it unlikely this season... I think we should appreciate this season as a wonderful first step toward building a legit program...

RelativeWays
10-26-2008, 05:53 PM
I'd assume we'd get a tie breaker over UVA if it comes to that. I really can't believe how well they're playing.

CameronBornAndBred
10-26-2008, 06:23 PM
I'd assume we'd get a tie breaker over UVA if it comes to that. I really can't believe how well they're playing.

I don't know. I think a bowl committee will look at quality of wins. To match their quality we have to beat Wake, VT and/or UNC.
To put things in perspective, check out this breakdown from ESPN (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/acc).

"The Coastal is still confusing, but Miami, Virginia and Virginia Tech have an edge. Despite Miami's back-to-back wins and Virginia being the hottest team in the division right now, it's still anybody's game. Try and follow this: Miami lost to North Carolina. North Carolina lost to Virginia. Virginia lost to Duke. Duke lost to Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech lost to Virginia. Virginia Tech is the only team in the division that hasn't lost to another Coastal Division opponent. And Virginia still plays Miami and Virginia Tech. The teams hurting the most right now are Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Duke, which each have lost two division games."

Duke also still has VT to play. Even if we beat Clemson, while that would help our record, I'm not sure it helps our bowl standings. I can't believe we can think that given their expectations at the beginning of the year.

devildeac
10-26-2008, 07:06 PM
I was hoping on the outside for 3-4 wins this season. I never imagined we'd have 4 for sure. It feels soooooooooo good! Looking forward to the rest of the season. I think we finally have the right coach. I know we have the right coach. Go Devils! Congratulations to everyone.

ricks

Come join us on 11/8 or 11/29. (and bring some brisket with you if you come;)).

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-26-2008, 07:15 PM
I don't know. I think a bowl committee will look at quality of wins. To match their quality we have to beat Wake, VT and/or UNC.
To put things in perspective, check out this breakdown from ESPN (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/acc).

"The Coastal is still confusing, but Miami, Virginia and Virginia Tech have an edge. Despite Miami's back-to-back wins and Virginia being the hottest team in the division right now, it's still anybody's game. Try and follow this: Miami lost to North Carolina. North Carolina lost to Virginia. Virginia lost to Duke. Duke lost to Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech lost to Virginia. Virginia Tech is the only team in the division that hasn't lost to another Coastal Division opponent. And Virginia still plays Miami and Virginia Tech. The teams hurting the most right now are Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Duke, which each have lost two division games."

Duke also still has VT to play. Even if we beat Clemson, while that would help our record, I'm not sure it helps our bowl standings. I can't believe we can think that given their expectations at the beginning of the year.

Anytime we beat Clemson is gratifying. I've lost count of how many Homecomings have been spoiled by Clemson. It's our turn now!

throatybeard
10-26-2008, 07:32 PM
RelativeWays says:

"It should be noted that this thread is at 5 pages where the VU thread is only 3."

This is how it should be. Instead of wondering for the 10th thread since last year if Marty or Zoubs will contribute much in 2008-2009, we can live in the present football season without fear of depression.

One reason basketball has become synonymous with the ACC is the woeful national accomplishments of the football programs during the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

Basketball will remain as popular as ever (for those horrified by the DBR having football talk).

I grew up loving Duke sports. In the mid-sixties Duke football was still drawing sellout crowds regularly and was as important as basketball to Duke fans. This fan hopes to see the days of a wild and raucous Wallace Wade Stadium return - and soon!

Thank you for saying it. I would have said it in a lot more strident fashion.

Devil in the Blue Dress
10-26-2008, 09:19 PM
We are about to begin the part of the season which will define this Duke football team. It's what we've been working for and waiting for since the first day of practice.... in fact, since the day Coach Cutcliffe was hired. If you're going to be a fan, now's the time! Looking ahead to the next home game on November 8, there's still time to buy a ticket and get some warmer clothes in royal blue.

Bob Green
10-26-2008, 09:23 PM
- and maybe the oddsmakers will start taking us a little more seriously after favoring Vandy by 14 at one point!

It appears we have a bit more work to do before the oddsmakers start giving us respect - Wake Forest has opened as an 11 point favorite:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college%2Dfootball/odds/las%2Dvegas/

devildeac
10-26-2008, 09:35 PM
It appears we have a bit more work to do before the oddsmakers start giving us respect - Wake Forest has opened as an 11 point favorite:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college%2Dfootball/odds/las%2Dvegas/

Excellent. Good bulletin board material. With the way the Wake offense has performed recently, I hope they have trouble scoring 11 points, but if they do attain that figure, I hope we have 12, even if it's 4 Surgan FGs:D.

throatybeard
10-26-2008, 09:51 PM
I would submit that we really don't have a lot of data about the traveling habits of Duke football fans when following a team that has a reasonable shot at winning games. It's not as though we've had a chance to evaluate travel habits for a decent team in quite a while. I would think that, after 14 years of no bowl game and, to make matters worse, no winning seasons, it's probably not fair to assume that Duke fans wouldn't travel, particularly if the game were relatively close to North Carolina (like DC).

I'd like to think so, but if dedicated fans are talking about [potentially] going to some routine regular-season OOC basketball game in DC or NY (the likes of which we have a couple of every year) instead of our 1st bowl game in fifteen years...

...I'd say we deserve our reputation as the bowl system's worst date. We're not talking about a conference BB game. Just an early-season Christmas game against a decent opponent. A bowl game would be our first postseason FB game in a long time.

We need to go 7-5.

Bob Green
10-26-2008, 09:57 PM
...some lame regular-season OOC basketball game in DC or NY....

Sacrilege! There is no such thing as a "lame" basketball game when Duke is one of the contestents. :)

Jim3k
10-27-2008, 12:47 AM
I'd like to think so, but if dedicated fans are talking about [potentially] going to some routine regular-season OOC basketball game in DC or NY (the likes of which we have a couple of every year) instead of our 1st bowl game in fifteen years...

...I'd say we deserve our reputation as the bowl system's worst date. We're not talking about a conference BB game. Just an early-season Christmas game against a decent opponent. A bowl game would be our first postseason FB game in a long time.

We need to go 7-5.

In Tampa in 1994 the Wisconsin folks helped us to a sellout. So the opponent's snowbirds make a difference. But that was Tampa, not , say, Boise or Toronto or Detroit. In areas where Duke athletics has no presence, the western venues (aside from San Francisco) are not a good fit for traveling alums.

The Emerald Bowl on December 27, no longer in Seattle but now in SF, does have an ACC fit, since it is the ACC's 5, 6 or 7 against the Pac-10. I think we can draw out here. The Left Coast and Rocky Mountain Devils would flock to the game. And besides, the Pac-10 team, like Wisconsin in 1994, would be a big help.

We do have a shot at a bowl this season, guys, and I don't think our ability to draw is that big of a consideration. We just have to continue to win. Seven wins and I think we're good. Six wins and we are a bubble team.

Three more wins is within our grasp.

Wander
10-29-2008, 10:19 AM
The offensive line was awful. Allowing sacks I think literally every time Duke was in the red zone. There are many players to blame for only scoring 3 points on 3 times inside the red zone, including the QB and the kickers, but the O-line was absolutely the #1 reason.

I am surprised no one brought up Thad's quick pass to Eron late in the 4th. Duke had been looking to the sidelines for the plays all game, but after a short rush on 1st down Thad immediately threw to Riley as soon as the ball was set. The change of pace took the defense completely by surprise and we got a 20+ yard gain. No points came out of the drive, but it was extremely important for field position. It's the best decision I've seen Thad make during his career at Duke.

This is exactly the type of game we would have lost in years past (okay, any game was that type of game, but you know what I mean), so I'm happy with the win. Defense was outstanding, minus the corner getting beat on VU's one touchdown.