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SilkyJ
10-09-2008, 12:26 AM
3-4FG, 1-2 3pt, 5-5FT

GIVE THE KID SOME PT

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281008019

(adam morrisson managed 5pts in 13 mins)

dukemomLA
10-09-2008, 01:12 AM
Still wishin' fpr JJ tp have a chance to get out of Miami. ....but they've picked up his option, so let's pray that the Heat will give him a chance (finally) to show what he can do.

sue71, esq
10-09-2008, 01:24 AM
Still wishin' fpr JJ tp have a chance to get out of Miami. ....but they've picked up his option, so let's pray that the Heat will give him a chance (finally) to show what he can do.

Uhhhh... isn't he in Orlando?

lazee
10-09-2008, 01:50 AM
Uhhhh... isn't he in Orlando?

Yes...DukemomLA got the right state but wrong city

BTW, can someone explain the +/- stat. He & his teammate, Tony Battie, had the highest @ +33 and +34 (the rest of his teammates were either in the +20 or teen range). Isn't this kind of high? How the heck does it get so high?

ForeverBlowingBubbles
10-09-2008, 07:20 AM
you only go in during garbage time and your team is beating the crap out of the other team.

Jaymf7
10-09-2008, 10:01 AM
Down here in Miami we (or at least I) would love to have JJ. We need to move Haslem, who would be loved in Orlando, but I'm not sure they have anything else of value to give back to make it work (perhaps their 2009 #1 pick and a trade exception/dead-weight expiring K -- the Heat have no #1 next year). Not sure they would want to part with the equivalent of two #1s for a "solid" starter, but it could make sense. One can hope.

phaedrus
10-09-2008, 10:11 AM
you only go in during garbage time and your team is beating the crap out of the other team.

wrong. if you go in when you're already beating the crap out of the other team, it's the players who created the lead in the first place that should have a higher plus/minus.

of course, you can extend a lead in garbage time, too, but usually garbage time play is pretty even.

Bluedog
10-09-2008, 10:26 AM
I must not understand the NBA since I really don't understand how a player like Courtney Lee could even compete with JJ. Yeah, Lee is a solid draft pick at 22, but I would think that a consensus NPOY who played in big-time NCAA tourney games and was the centerpiece of defenses all over the country who knew what he did inside and out and tried to stop him, but still couldn't, would typically garner more PT than a Sun Belt player from Western KY (I understand he averaged around 20 ppg and was Sun Belt POY). Maybe I'm just looking at things through my blue-tinted glasses, and it does seem that JJ is ahead of Lee on the depth chart...but who knows. Lee had more minutes in the most recent game. Obviously, the particular college an athlete goes to doesn't mean much once in the pros and the best player should play....I just find it difficult to believe that Lee is on the same level as JJ. Hopefully, JJ will see more minutes this season!

jv001
10-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Still wishin' fpr JJ tp have a chance to get out of Miami. ....but they've picked up his option, so let's pray that the Heat will give him a chance (finally) to show what he can do.

I think Don Johnson is his main competition for playing time in Miami. I think JJ gets the nod because Don is too old to play that role.

zingit
10-09-2008, 04:21 PM
I went to the Orlando Sentinel website to see what they were saying about it, and apparently it is fairly controversial:

Here's (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-bianchi0908oct09,0,250617.column) an editorial from a guy who's tired of the fixation on J.J. (didn't he write something like this earlier in the year too?). It's a little obnoxious, but I don't think it's anti-J.J. per se, just saying he doesn't understand what all the fuss is about, and let's wait and see what he can do in a competitive NBA game before obsessing over him. Here's (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_cheapseats/2008/10/listen-up-mike.html) a response. And Brian Schmitz talks about it on his blog (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/). I think J.J.'s right when he says here (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/10/magic-extend-jj.html) that getting renewed is certainly nice, and playing in the preseason is all well and good, but we won't know what his year could look like until the first real game on October 29.

ForeverBlowingBubbles
10-09-2008, 04:57 PM
Hollingers latest scouting report on JJ

"2007-08 season: Redick fell out of the rotation faster than you can say "Krzyzewski" and issued a trade demand that was greeted with a collective yawn by the Magic. Instead he used 34 games of garbage time to show what everyone already knew -- he can shoot like crazy, and he can't guard my "Shift" key. "

The report goes on to point out JJ made 39.5% of his 3's last year which is quite an accomplishment counting pure shooters usually don't put up those kind of %'s when their cold, but that teams would immediatly attack him in the post when he checked into games. Statistics show he hasn't blocked a shot in 2 years.


In Hollinger's opinion, JJ's biggest weakness is that he does not do anything in the NBA at the NBA level except shoot. If he ever gets a chance to play for a team like Philidelphia or Cleveland however, he could def. see JJ lighting it up and being an important piece.

Bob Green
10-09-2008, 05:10 PM
Friday night at 7 pm the Orlando Magic play CSKA Moscow in an exhibition game. That means Trajan Langdon will showing off his stuff.

RainingThrees
10-09-2008, 06:10 PM
JJ vs Trajan. If JJ actually plays who wins this battle? I know Langdon has been with the CSKA for awhile but still.

Carlos
10-09-2008, 08:05 PM
you only go in during garbage time and your team is beating the crap out of the other team.

Not the case here in this game.

JJ played nearly all of his minutes in the first and second quarters.


I must not understand the NBA since I really don't understand how a player like Courtney Lee could even compete with JJ. Yeah, Lee is a solid draft pick at 22, but I would think that a consensus NPOY who played in big-time NCAA tourney games and was the centerpiece of defenses all over the country who knew what he did inside and out and tried to stop him, but still couldn't, would typically garner more PT than a Sun Belt player from Western KY (I understand he averaged around 20 ppg and was Sun Belt POY). Maybe I'm just looking at things through my blue-tinted glasses, and it does seem that JJ is ahead of Lee on the depth chart...but who knows. Lee had more minutes in the most recent game. Obviously, the particular college an athlete goes to doesn't mean much once in the pros and the best player should play....I just find it difficult to believe that Lee is on the same level as JJ. Hopefully, JJ will see more minutes this season!

I can't say this enough - college basketball and pro basketball aren't the same game.

Just because a guy didn't play in one of the power conferences doesn't mean he can't play. Scotty Pippen says hello all the way from Central Arkansas. Charles Oakley invites you to watch a game with him at Virginia Union. Joe Dumars wants to show you his McNeese State class ring. 2-time NBA MVP Steve Nash wants to know if you would like to see his Santa Clara jersey. Karl Malone.... OK, you get the point.

lazee
10-09-2008, 11:23 PM
Video recap of the Magic's win over the Bobcats, including a three from JJ & a running fadeaway past Adam Morrison (which reminded me of his "out-of-bounds" shot he made against Virginia the night he scored 40 points on 13 shots).

http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://nba-boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/recap09_pre012_chaorl.asx

SilkyJ
10-09-2008, 11:36 PM
Video recap of the Magic's win over the Bobcats, including a three from JJ & a running fadeaway past Adam Morrison (which reminded me of his "out-of-bounds" shot he made against Virginia the night he scored 40 points on 13 shots).

http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://nba-boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/recap09_pre012_chaorl.asx

Thanks man. I saw the sportscenter highlight where they showed him hitting a J, but nothing else. Liked that runner. Needs to make more of those, imo. I don't think he's really been able to create off the dribble and actually set his feet and rise and fire in the NBA. He was able to with a little fade in college, but not so much in the L. If he can hit 15 foot runners, which he is totally capable of, his offense might be so good it'd be really hard to not play him...of course, its not really his offense the coaches are watching...