Novak to Duke

[diablesseblu]

Never thought I'd type those words......given Novak's "Terpitude". Very sad that he's ill but I admire his courage in pursuing this treatment option.

http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4263&Itemid=80#jreactions

[Ann Arbor Devil]

If only Novak had shown courage after recently striking a pedestrian with his Corvette, rather than claiming he never saw the guy even though eyewitness accounts said the pedestrian was splayed across his windshield.

[diablesseblu]

Agree completely and was appalled at the time. However, after the diagnosis of his brain tumor, a brain lesion specialist was quoted as saying that Novak's not "seeing" the guy should have been a clue for a complete neuro workup.

Apparently, that's SOP in hospitals in similar accident circumstances. Since Novak was himself not injured, an opportunity to catch this earlier was missed. Thank goodness the pedestrian was not badly injured. Also, after reading the doctor's comments, I did wonder if there were signs of his illness that Novak had ignored.

[jimsumner]

Am I the only person who saw this thread title and started trying to figure out if Novak was a Duke recruit?

FWIW, not a big fan of the man but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Am I the only person who saw this thread title and started trying to figure out if Novak was a Duke recruit?

FWIW, not a big fan of the man but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Jim, you and I are on the same page on this one. For both paragraphs.

[slower]

Jim, you and I are on the same page on this one. For both paragraphs.

on both counts. Maybe some karma at work.

[Reisen]

If only Novak had shown courage after recently striking a pedestrian with his Corvette, rather than claiming he never saw the guy even though eyewitness accounts said the pedestrian was splayed across his windshield.

This is pretty tacky, and also pretty uninformed given the discovery of the brain tumor as a result of the accident. I've known far too many people that died of these tumors, including my uncle. Over half of them (3 out of 5) discovered the tumors as a result of car crashes where they didn't see plainly obvious things. Remember, the brain tumor can completely block the brain's processing of things the eye sees, so you could be looking right at a tree, and walk into it because you didn't "see" it.

The fact that Novak was tested for and then diagnosed with a brain tumor is clear evidence he didn't "see" the guy, even on his windshield.

[slower]

Then perhaps this explains his entire journalistic "career".

[Indoor66]

Sometimes charity and compassion are trumped by ideology.

[weezie]

[QUOTE=Reisen;177559]This is pretty tacky, and also pretty uninformed given the discovery of the brain tumor as a result of the accident. I've known far too many people that died of these tumors, including my uncle. Over half of them (3 out of 5) discovered the tumors as a result of car crashes where they didn't see plainly obvious things.

/QUOTE]

Absolutely correct. My father died of a brain tumor and it was indeed diagnosed after a car accident. He didn't hurt anyone, thank God.
I think this thread should be zipped.

[Ann Arbor Devil]

Did not realize the tumor may have directly caused the accident so my apologies for being tacky and uninformed.

[slower]

Sometimes charity and compassion are trumped by ideology.


I'd say that they are almost ALWAYS trumped by ideology. Just because Novak has a brain tumor doesn't nullify a lifetime of being a scumbag.

[ehdg]

I'd say that they are almost ALWAYS trumped by ideology. Just because Novak has a brain tumor doesn't nullify a lifetime of being a scumbag.

Just because you don't agree with his poloitcal beliefs/leanings doesn't make him a scumbag. Your entitled your polotical beliefs just as he and other conservatives are entitled to theirs.

[roywhite]

I'd say that they are almost ALWAYS trumped by ideology. Just because Novak has a brain tumor doesn't nullify a lifetime of being a scumbag.

Let me add my objection to this comment. Way out of line and mean-spirited, especially applying it to someone with a fatal condition.

[slower]

Just because you don't agree with his poloitcal beliefs/leanings doesn't make him a scumbag. Your entitled your polotical beliefs just as he and other conservatives are entitled to theirs.

Then in the future (hopefully), perhaps people will keep their NON-basketball related posts off of this board, where they do NOT belong. Put this stuff on the off-topic or public policy boards.

And while we're on the subject of being unforgiving, I'd love to see the posts if the subject had been Bill or Hillary Clinton instead of Novak. If you don't think THAT would be an unforgiving thread, you are not in touch with reality.

Mods, PLEASE move or lock this thing. I don't come here to read about Robert Novak, I come here to read about BASKETBALL.

[roywhite]

Then in the future (hopefully), perhaps people will keep their NON-basketball related posts off of this board, where they do NOT belong. Put this stuff on the off-topic or public policy boards.

And while we're on the subject of being unforgiving, I'd love to see the posts if the subject had been Bill or Hillary Clinton instead of Novak. If you don't think THAT would be an unforgiving thread, you are not in touch with reality.

Mods, PLEASE move or lock this thing. I don't come here to read about Robert Novak, I come here to read about BASKETBALL.

I missed your apology for your comments, which were inappropriate and hateful.

[slower]

I missed your apology for your comments, which were inappropriate and hateful.

You must have blinked.

There, did you see it that time?

[hc5duke]

Then in the future (hopefully), perhaps people will keep their NON-basketball related posts off of this board, where they do NOT belong. Put this stuff on the off-topic or public policy boards.

Mods, PLEASE move or lock this thing. I don't come here to read about Robert Novak, I come here to read about BASKETBALL.

I think Duke-related issues, especially ones mentioned by DBR's front page (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=25512) are filed under the main board.

[slower]

I think Duke-related issues, especially ones mentioned by DBR's front page (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=25512) are filed under the main board.

Fair enough.

Now I can see that anybody who is a basketball fan of any stripe who gets treated by or at Duke is somehow relevant to Duke basketball.

Thanks for the clarification.

[roywhite]

You must have blinked.

There, did you see it that time?

Classic.

Make political comments on the thread. Then, step up the comments to the really inappropriate level, calling Novak a "scumbag".

When posters object, complain that the thread doesn't belong here and throw in some irrelevant comment about how the Clintons would be trashed.

When asked, refuse to apologize.

Continue your tantrum. I'm done on this thread.

[slower]

Classic.

Make political comments on the thread. Then, step up the comments to the really inappropriate level, calling Novak a "scumbag".

When posters object, complain that the thread doesn't belong here and throw in some irrelevant comment about how the Clintons would be trashed.

When asked, refuse to apologize.

Continue your tantrum. I'm done on this thread.

;) Next play!

[slower]

I'm done with this thread. I hope it's DNR.

[hc5duke]

Fair enough.

Now I can see that anybody who is a basketball fan of any stripe who gets treated by or at Duke is somehow relevant to Duke basketball.

Thanks for the clarification.

Seriously? Wow. +1 for the ignore list

[ehdg]

Then in the future (hopefully), perhaps people will keep their NON-basketball related posts off of this board, where they do NOT belong. Put this stuff on the off-topic or public policy boards.

And while we're on the subject of being unforgiving, I'd love to see the posts if the subject had been Bill or Hillary Clinton instead of Novak. If you don't think THAT would be an unforgiving thread, you are not in touch with reality.

Mods, PLEASE move or lock this thing. I don't come here to read about Robert Novak, I come here to read about BASKETBALL.

Granted that maybe this shouldn't have been placed on this board but either way you where still way out of line with your remarks!! Love how when someone gets called on their out ofline remarks they take the offensive instead of stepping up like an honorable person and admitting their mistake.

As for the Clinton's they are what they are. Some folks love them and some folks hate them, just the way it is. Frankly more folks get riled up about Bill and Hillary then folks about Novak.

[diablesseblu]

I originally posted the info about Bob Novak because his story seemed to transcend basketball.

Certainly Gary Williams and the Terp basketball team have no bigger fan than Bob Novak. From a personal perspective, I abhor how Gary runs the MD program and I completely disagree with Novak's political views (and behavior).

However, isn't it instructive that sometimes we need to get past all of this partisanship...especially when we need help? I can imagine that were they not in China, K and/or Mickie would be at DUMC to offer any assistance they could to the Novak family.

Isn't it terrific that we all support this great university where even our most vociferous foes will choose to receive world class medical care?

[merry]

I've never been a fan of Novak's politics but I remember watching him years ago when he was on the McLaughlin report. During one show John McLaughlin ridiculed "Novakio" in his absence from the show because the absence was due to the ACC tournament. I thought "hmm, that guy has his priorities in the right place after all!" I mean who wouldn't rather be at the ACC tournamant than in some stuffy TV studio?