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3ptSpecialist
11-04-2009, 06:32 PM
If Barnes goes to Duke go ahead and put us down as champs.

slower
11-04-2009, 06:32 PM
Just doing my part to try and raise the level of suspense with something to think about...:)

I won't be surprised, unless he goes to UCLA, Iowa St., or Kansas.

you're just being a Tarhole.

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 06:34 PM
If Barnes goes to Duke go ahead and put us down as champs.

I would love to think the same thing but


SLOW DOWN

Tim1515
11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
I would love to think the same thing but


SLOW DOWN

AGREE...lets let the kid enjoy his stay at Duke if that's his choice. Barnes won't be LeBron day one...probably more like Singler. Kyle was great but we shouldn't put the pressure of the world on Harrison's shoulders. He's a great all-around player but isn't a star yet in any category from what i hear.

Indoor66
11-04-2009, 06:43 PM
It seems that some get rather manic when discussing recruiting. Calmness is called for. These kids rarely live up to the hype, rarely.

CEF1959
11-04-2009, 07:25 PM
I don't know about rarely, but there certainly are enough surprises (both positive and negative) to warrant calm.

Bluedevil99
11-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Harrisons choice could come down to getting a degree in business from a school that has a business school like UNC or Kansas? I know an overall education from Duke is better than the other schools in the hunt for Barnes, but how much will that really play a part in his choice?

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Harrisons choice could come down to getting a degree in business from a school that has a business school like UNC or Kansas? I know an overall education from Duke is better than the other schools in the hunt for Barnes, but how much will that really play a part in his choice?

We have already been through this a thousand times my friend.

MChambers
11-04-2009, 08:25 PM
Are we certain it's the 13th now? I know one source said that, but several others said otherwise, didn't they?

To paraphrase the late Walt Kelly, this month Friday the 13th comes on a Friday. Now I'm worried!

JasonEvans
11-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Harrisons choice could come down to getting a degree in business from a school that has a business school like UNC or Kansas? I know an overall education from Duke is better than the other schools in the hunt for Barnes, but how much will that really play a part in his choice?

We are talking about a kid likely to spend 1 year, maybe 2 on campus. I don't think his specific major will be that huge a factor. Also, Duke has a number of majors and classes that will approximate a business degree for all intents and purposes.

--Jason "Barnes won't choose Duke because of the quality of the education... now that is a new one ;)" Evans

airowe
11-04-2009, 08:44 PM
We are talking about a kid likely to spend 1 year, maybe 2 on campus. I don't think his specific major will be that huge a factor. Also, Duke has a number of majors and classes that will approximate a business degree for all intents and purposes.

--Jason "Barnes won't choose Duke because of the quality of the education... now that is a new one ;)" Evans

This is the only school Harrison Barnes needs to worry about:

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online/wp-content/uploads/SkoolForBallers.jpg

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 08:46 PM
I find it funny how everyone's an expert on how long HB is staying in college.

superdave
11-04-2009, 09:09 PM
We are talking about a kid likely to spend 1 year, maybe 2 on campus. I don't think his specific major will be that huge a factor. Also, Duke has a number of majors and classes that will approximate a business degree for all intents and purposes.


Undergrads do not start taking business school classes until their junior year at UNC. They apply for admission into the business school at the end of their sophomore years.

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 09:14 PM
Undergrads do not start taking business school classes until their junior year at UNC. They apply for admission into the business school at the end of their sophomore years.

Someone tell HB if he doesn't already know.

miramar
11-04-2009, 09:17 PM
I love the fact that Iowa state has the most votes for where he will be going next year. I want him at Duke but i found the results of the poll very funny.

Duke is now up to 51%, probably because DBR had a link to the article.

We are so predictable.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091104/SPORTS0811/91104023/1003/SPORTS

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 09:21 PM
Duke is now up to 51%, probably because DBR had a link to the article.

We are so predictable.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091104/SPORTS0811/91104023/1003/SPORTS

Yea i noticed that as well lol....we now have over 700 votes. IDK how much this actually means but hopefully it's a sign of good things to come:)

77devil
11-04-2009, 09:24 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Harrisons choice could come down to getting a degree in business from a school that has a business school like UNC or Kansas? I know an overall education from Duke is better than the other schools in the hunt for Barnes, but how much will that really play a part in his choice?

Not the slightest. This has been discussed ad nausea. Probably warrants consideration as a new entry in the recruiting section of Throaty's HPR - We are disadvantaged in recruiting certain student athletes by not offering an undergraduate business major.

DevilHorns
11-04-2009, 09:43 PM
Not the slightest. This has been discussed ad nausea. Probably warrants consideration as a new entry in the recruiting section of Throaty's HPR - We are disadvantaged in recruiting certain student athletes by not offering an undergraduate business major.

You can create your own major at duke. I was actually close to creating my own major during my ugrad there but decided not to. harrison met with the dean of fuqua and other high profile people during his visit, im sure they were able to stir up some ideas that would be akin/better than a biz major offered elsewhere.

77devil
11-04-2009, 10:03 PM
You can create your own major at duke. I was actually close to creating my own major during my ugrad there but decided not to. harrison met with the dean of fuqua and other high profile people during his visit, im sure they were able to stir up some ideas that would be akin/better than a biz major offered elsewhere.

I'm afraid you have missed the point.

Wheat/"/"/"
11-04-2009, 10:37 PM
you're just being a Tarhole.

Well...oh never mind... :p

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-04-2009, 10:38 PM
Well...oh never mind... :p

You're on a Duke Board you'll never win lol

ChicagoCrazy84
11-04-2009, 10:54 PM
Yea i noticed that as well lol....we now have over 700 votes. IDK how much this actually means but hopefully it's a sign of good things to come:)


I was going to post the same thing, but you guys beat me to it. I voted a minute ago and we were up to 52% and >1200 votes. One of those people has to know something, right?;)

Wheat/"/"/"
11-04-2009, 11:01 PM
You're on a Duke Board you'll never win lol

I almost impressed myself with that disiplined reply.

What's the old saying..."I'ts not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game?" (Bull(*&^ actually, but appropriate none the less).

I'm working on my game here...it's the new me ;)...

Kedsy
11-05-2009, 12:27 AM
If Barnes goes to Duke go ahead and put us down as champs.

I wish people wouldn't say things like this. Since they started the seeding process in 1979 (31 years worth of tourneys) do you know how many years a team ranked #1 (in at least one major poll) going into the tournament has actually won the tournament? Exactly 6, fewer than 20% of the time. So if HB comes to Duke and if he lives up to expectations and if the rest of the team lives up to expectations and if we don't suffer any major injuries and if we manage to get through the tough ACC schedule and also win the extremely difficult ACC tournament, and if we are fortunate enough to be ranked #1 in the country going into the tournament... the odds will still be heavily stacked against us.

I say let's not go ahead and put us down for anything.

ChicagoCrazy84
11-05-2009, 12:42 AM
I wish people wouldn't say things like this. Since they started the seeding process in 1979 (31 years worth of tourneys) do you know how many years a team ranked #1 (in at least one major poll) going into the tournament has actually won the tournament? Exactly 6, fewer than 20% of the time. So if HB comes to Duke and if he lives up to expectations and if the rest of the team lives up to expectations and if we don't suffer any major injuries and if we manage to get through the tough ACC schedule and also win the extremely difficult ACC tournament, and if we are fortunate enough to be ranked #1 in the country going into the tournament... the odds will still be heavily stacked against us.

I say let's not go ahead and put us down for anything.


I agree. To be a championship team, it takes a lot more than talent. It takes leadership, experience, and grit as well. It's not easy to make it to a championship game. With that said, we would be ridiculously stacked (1999 style) with HB so anything less than a Final Four would be really dissapointing and once you get to the Final Four, it's all up for grabs.

Ohiobobcat204
11-05-2009, 02:02 AM
Idk about you guys, but all these thoughts I'm reading from various sites about how Harrison Barnes is widely believed to be a Duke lean make me more nervous than reassured. It almost seems too good to be true!

oldnavy
11-05-2009, 07:10 AM
I wish people wouldn't say things like this. Since they started the seeding process in 1979 (31 years worth of tourneys) do you know how many years a team ranked #1 (in at least one major poll) going into the tournament has actually won the tournament? Exactly 6, fewer than 20% of the time. So if HB comes to Duke and if he lives up to expectations and if the rest of the team lives up to expectations and if we don't suffer any major injuries and if we manage to get through the tough ACC schedule and also win the extremely difficult ACC tournament, and if we are fortunate enough to be ranked #1 in the country going into the tournament... the odds will still be heavily stacked against us.

I say let's not go ahead and put us down for anything.
Statements like that make me nervous as well. They do nothing but set you up for disappointment if you do not suceed, and if you do, well... you were supposed too! However, I disagree with your last statement in that paragraph, the odds will not be stacked against us, the odds will actually favor us (more than any other individual team, but not the field) if we can do all the things you said. Your point is well taken, being favored is not a lock for winning the whole thing, that is why the NCAA tourney is soooo much fun to watch!!

CDu
11-05-2009, 08:31 AM
I agree. To be a championship team, it takes a lot more than talent. It takes leadership, experience, and grit as well. It's not easy to make it to a championship game. With that said, we would be ridiculously stacked (1999 style) with HB so anything less than a Final Four would be really dissapointing and once you get to the Final Four, it's all up for grabs.

It also takes a healthy amount of good fortune and some luck. Heck, it takes some good fortune for the best team to even make the Final Four.

_Gary
11-05-2009, 09:14 AM
I almost impressed myself with that disiplined reply.

Actually, I was impressed. I'll never forget my first exchange with you on the old boards at least a decade ago, Wheat. You said something to me and you were just "yanking my chain" but I didn't know what ; ) (had to skip a space so it didn't automatically create the smiley) stood for so I got upset. You came back and explained it to me and then I got it. You're a good sport to come here all these years and act civilized. Not normal for most Tar Heel fans. :p

Take care,

Gary

rotogod00
11-05-2009, 09:55 AM
I love the fact that Iowa state has the most votes for where he will be going next year. I want him at Duke but i found the results of the poll very funny.

Duke currently the leader in the clubhouse at 54%

rotogod00
11-05-2009, 09:57 AM
Idk about you guys, but all these thoughts I'm reading from various sites about how Harrison Barnes is widely believed to be a Duke lean make me more nervous than reassured. It almost seems too good to be true!

Worked out well with Irving for what it's worth

moonpie23
11-05-2009, 09:59 AM
I almost impressed myself with that disiplined reply.

What's the old saying..."I'ts not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game?" (Bull(*&^ actually, but appropriate none the less).

I'm working on my game here...it's the new me ;)...

i have to say, i actually admire your tempered approach in here. I tried it over at IC and was banned within about 3 days. :( :)


it's funny. Hatin' has tremendous perspective. When Coach K was selected to coach TEAM USA and players that i loathed were on there (carmello, chris paul, bosh, etc) I had to do some quick mental mind-stepping to get myself in the mood.

I decided to give ALL the players a ONE YEAR NO HATER PASS. After repeating "yep, yep, that's what i'm gonna do....no hating no hatin" on these guys through the practice period, i started to gain a little bit different perspective. By the time the olympics rolled through, i was actually cheering for the players that i had such distain for.

the only player to NOT receive an extension on his ONE YEAR card has been chris paul. I can now watch all those guys and enjoy their play. I don't really pull for all their TEAMS, but i enjoy watching Carmello, Bosh, Kidd and Kobe play again...

I'm gonna try and give UNC a one year LESS HATING pass this year.

ScreechTDX1847
11-05-2009, 10:34 AM
i have to say, i actually admire your tempered approach in here. I tried it over at IC and was banned within about 3 days. :( :)


it's funny. Hatin' has tremendous perspective. When Coach K was selected to coach TEAM USA and players that i loathed were on there (carmello, chris paul, bosh, etc) I had to do some quick mental mind-stepping to get myself in the mood.

I decided to give ALL the players a ONE YEAR NO HATER PASS. After repeating "yep, yep, that's what i'm gonna do....no hating no hatin" on these guys through the practice period, i started to gain a little bit different perspective. By the time the olympics rolled through, i was actually cheering for the players that i had such distain for.

the only player to NOT receive an extension on his ONE YEAR card has been chris paul. I can now watch all those guys and enjoy their play. I don't really pull for all their TEAMS, but i enjoy watching Carmello, Bosh, Kidd and Kobe play again...

I'm gonna try and give UNC a one year LESS HATING pass this year.

Just go to a bar in RDU area of the first UNC/Duke matchup this year to watch the game. I believe in you...you can be filled with hate again!:p

Kedsy
11-05-2009, 10:37 AM
However, I disagree with your last statement in that paragraph, the odds will not be stacked against us, the odds will actually favor us (more than any other individual team, but not the field) if we can do all the things you said. Your point is well taken, being favored is not a lock for winning the whole thing, that is why the NCAA tourney is soooo much fun to watch!!

Well, yes, we'd be favored more than any other team. The problem is in a tournament like that you play against the field, so the individual favorite rarely wins. It's quibbling, perhaps, but I think with a projected 19% success rate the odds can be considered to be stacked against us.


With that said, we would be ridiculously stacked (1999 style) with HB so anything less than a Final Four would be really dissapointing and once you get to the Final Four, it's all up for grabs.

True, we would be stacked and, yes, it would be disappointing. But it's nowhere close to automatic (and I'm not suggesting you said it was). Remember 2002 and 2006? How about all those Roy Williams Kansas teams that came into the tournament #1 and lost to the likes of UTEP.

BD80
11-05-2009, 11:22 AM
Back to Harrison (IMO tar heels should never be discussed on a thread celebrating a future Duke POY)

Announcing on Friday the 13th, anyone superstitious?

Frankly, I like the mojo, but then, I'm a glass half full (with Bushmills 21-year-old single malt) kind of guy

flyingdutchdevil
11-05-2009, 11:26 AM
More excited than superstitious. The suspense with Kyrie was insane - but I am so glad that it is over (and not just because he chose Duke!).

I have never predicted anything, but I will say this: this thread will explode. 2,000 threads is an easy target :)

jimsumner
11-05-2009, 12:06 PM
"Idk about you guys, but all these thoughts I'm reading from various sites about how Harrison Barnes is widely believed to be a Duke lean make me more nervous than reassured. "

Curious. If it makes you feel better, almost all of the top players who have signed with Duke were believed to be Duke leans before they announced.

CEF1959
11-05-2009, 12:10 PM
I'm offering, free of charge, chill pills for all, which will numb your mind to HB rumors until 11/13:

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devil84
11-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Just a reminder that rumor mongering is not appropriate on these boards.

How do you know if something is a rumor? If you can find the information on a legitimate media outlet, it's not a rumor and is fair game. If you find it only on other message boards or on other speculative sites, particularly when it's referred to as a "rumor," then it's probably a rumor.

If your post went missing, it's because we don't discuss rumors here.

quickgtp
11-05-2009, 01:24 PM
So that includes not being able to ASK if someone else has heard the same thing?

-bdbd
11-05-2009, 01:27 PM
If you have the ability, try to take a step back and look at the situation -- it's sure to make you laugh. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of grown men and women, in the midst of their careers, jobs (those who still have jobs these days...), and lives in general -- all obsessing over the whims of a 17-year-old from Iowa. If you take at face value that HB is really keeping things very close to the vest, something that I think is credible, then all of the fan emails, websites, chatboards and media speculating are all just absolutely worthless. NONE of these folks really know where he's going, and for the most part they are just speculating on any signals or leans -- such as the significance of announcing on ESPN. Sheesh!

Like I said, if you are able, try to take a step back and look at it objectively. It IS pretty funny.

That said, I sure hope he comes to Duke.

Cheers!

-BDBD :cool:

oldnavy
11-05-2009, 03:48 PM
Well, yes, we'd be favored more than any other team. The problem is in a tournament like that you play against the field, so the individual favorite rarely wins. It's quibbling, perhaps, but I think with a projected 19% success rate the odds can be considered to be stacked against us.



True, we would be stacked and, yes, it would be disappointing. But it's nowhere close to automatic (and I'm not suggesting you said it was). Remember 2002 and 2006? How about all those Roy Williams Kansas teams that came into the tournament #1 and lost to the likes of UTEP.

Understood, and trust me, I would take the field if I were a betting man in all tournament settings. I agree with what you said, and it is really nit picking, but the term odds, has me hung up. We could be THE favored team, but still only have a 1 in 5 odds. Bottom line is that we would be sitting in a better position to win than other teams, and that is always a good thing!

Ohiobobcat204
11-05-2009, 04:53 PM
jimsumner "Idk about you guys, but all these thoughts I'm reading from various sites about how Harrison Barnes is widely believed to be a Duke lean make me more nervous than reassured. "

Curious. If it makes you feel better, almost all of the top players who have signed with Duke were believed to be Duke leans before they announced.
Today 11:26 AM

Yeah that does make it better. Im surrounded by tarhole fans in my dorm so I am ready to run through the halls celebrating if he comes

airowe
11-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Set your DVRs. Friday, the 13th @ 2:00. ESPNU Signing Day Special.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/onthetrail

Duvall
11-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Friday, the 13th

Eep.

CEF1959
11-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Set your DVRs. Friday, the 13th @ 2:00. ESPNU Signing Day Special.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/onthetrail

So since I'm on the west coast, I'll know at 11 am, a full three hours before the news breaks on the east coast. Sweet.

Wait... uh ... hmm. :rolleyes:

juise
11-05-2009, 06:31 PM
Eep.

One would think that if anyone would benefit from a Friday the 13th announcement, it would be a team with a Devils for a mascot.

RelativeWays
11-05-2009, 06:49 PM
What if Friday the 13th originated from Pagan superstition? They tend to favor horned sheep...............FOR SACRIFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

MarkD83
11-05-2009, 07:22 PM
So since I'm on the west coast, I'll know at 11 am, a full three hours before the news breaks on the east coast. Sweet.

Wait... uh ... hmm. :rolleyes:

Post an update when you find out at 11 am so that I don't have to wait until 2. :D

El_Diablo
11-05-2009, 07:40 PM
Dave Telep's twitter from earlier today:

"Harrison Barnes Has NOT trimmed any school off his list. Buckle up, it's rampant rumor time week leading up to signing day!"

juise
11-05-2009, 07:48 PM
It seems as if Harrison has broken his streak of publishing his post-visit blog on Thursday.

Quick... let's all speculate about what that could mean! :p

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-05-2009, 08:40 PM
It seems as if Harrison has broken his streak of publishing his post-visit blog on Thursday.

Quick... let's all speculate about what that could mean! :p

Well I don't know about you guys but.....I'm going to say DUKE

Devilsfan
11-05-2009, 09:01 PM
Brooklyn is the first to declared Duke the winner.

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-05-2009, 09:04 PM
Brooklyn is the first to declared Duke the winner.

YES, quote me on that everyone. I want my praise when it comes true:).

CEF1959
11-06-2009, 08:48 AM
You could always bet somebody $50 it's going to be UNC-CH. That way if your worst nightmare comes true, at least you can buy a lot of beer. Any other school you could call a push and probably live with it. And if you lose $50 when HB signs with Duke, it will be worth it.

Devilsfan
11-06-2009, 08:57 AM
I might bet somebody $100 myself. If I won I would give it to charity. If I lost it would be the best money I every lost.

mj2345
11-06-2009, 09:01 AM
Barnes holds everything close to the vest just like Tobias Harris. Until he declares this is all speculation.

moonpie23
11-06-2009, 09:24 AM
wagering does not bend the continuum transfunctioner.

JasonEvans
11-06-2009, 10:04 AM
wagering does not bend the continuum transfunctioner.

The mystery that is Harrison Barnes' decision is exceeded only by his power to play great basketball.

--Jason "Dude, where's my recruit?" Evans

soccerstud2210
11-06-2009, 12:36 PM
here is a pretty interesting article with a link to the audio of a morning sports show about barnes choosing iowa state and what that would mean to him and the cyclones. *warning* this guys despises duke.

if you have 20-30 minutes to waste:

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/cyclone-recruiting/one-week-from-today

there is a link in the article to the audio from the 11/6 morning clip

AlaskanAssassin
11-06-2009, 01:24 PM
these guys are absurd. plateaued? what are they smoking? they couldn't name a Duke star in the NBA? i had to cut this thing off.

airowe
11-06-2009, 01:29 PM
these guys are absurd. plateaued? what are they smoking? they couldn't name a Duke star in the NBA? i had to cut this thing off.

They just said 20 win seasons, not making it to the tournament is what is happening at Duke right now.

And talking about unplanned pregnancies and how being at Iowa State will give him a softer landing for his future in case that happens.

airowe
11-06-2009, 01:38 PM
This is hilarious.

"There's not a big enough mansion you can build to protect your kids from the wrong environment"

soccerstud2210
11-06-2009, 01:44 PM
hahaha it was definitely an entertaining 30 minutes. you can tell, when someone hates duke and the program, they don't ever really make sense with their reasoning. and these dudes HATE duke.

shoutingncu
11-06-2009, 01:46 PM
http://www.highschoolhoop.com/recruiting-news/2009/11/the-harrison-barnes-diary-official-visit-to-ucla/

NSDukeFan
11-06-2009, 01:52 PM
http://www.highschoolhoop.com/recruiting-news/2009/11/the-harrison-barnes-diary-official-visit-to-ucla/

That's fantastic that he got to meet coach Wooden and a great idea for UCLA for their recruiting pitch. Hopefully, he will eventually see coach Wooden as the second best coach ever, behind coach K.

airowe
11-06-2009, 01:54 PM
I love this part:


After that I met with the academic coordinator, and as we were finishing up the meeting, Kevin Love stopped in because he was having lunch with the academic coordinator that day. Then we had a quick tour of campus, I had a final meeting with Coach Howland, and we headed back to the airport.

What a coincidence!

Bay Area Duke Fan
11-06-2009, 01:58 PM
That's fantastic that he got to meet coach Wooden and a great idea for UCLA for their recruiting pitch. Hopefully, he will eventually see coach Wooden as the second best coach ever, behind coach K.

If he sees Wooden as only the second best coach ever, many may start to question his judgment.

UrinalCake
11-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Another great writeup. It sounds like he was impressed by the school's surroundings as well as their involvement in the community. Unfortunately, those are two aspects where Duke just can't compete.

BD80
11-06-2009, 02:15 PM
My favorite:


It gave me a lot more time to spend with Coach (Ben) Howland and his staff. They always said that they were going to recruit me until I signed, ...

I infer that to mean he has told Howland he has decided to go elsewhere, but Howland kept trying. This would be consistent with reports of good feelings from the Duke staff after the visit to Duke.

Love was in LA because the TWolves were playing at the Clippers that night.

Friday night through Monday afternoon, isn't that too long for an official visit?

Newton_14
11-06-2009, 02:24 PM
My favorite:



I infer that to mean he has told Howland he has decided to go elsewhere, but Howland kept trying. This would be consistent with reports of good feelings from the Duke staff after the visit to Duke.

Love was in LA because the TWolves were playing at the Clippers that night.

Friday night through Monday afternoon, isn't that too long for an official visit?

The rules state that he can spend 48hrs total on campus during the OV. Not sure if they count the hours socializing or sight seeing off campus or not. I assume not.

Newton_14
11-06-2009, 02:36 PM
It is hard not to love this kid. He is quite refreshing to be honest. I certainly hope he chooses to be a Blue Devil, but if not, I will follow his career and wish him well. Unless of course he choose hell at which point he becomes an enemy for life!! Ha! Just kidding.

Just seems like a thoughtful, grounded, and intelligent young man who is mature beyond his years. Inspite of all the attention the last few years have brought him.

I like Duke's chances and believe HB will announce for Duke a week from today, and also feel that Rivers is going to end up a Blue Devil as well. Glad we will know for sure about HB soon.

How does this sound for a good week:
Tomorrow: Duke 33 holes 16;
Friday The 13th: HB: "I have decided to attend Duke University";
Saturday The 14th: Duke 24 Ga Tech 23......

Yeah.. that sounds like a plan to me...

BD80
11-06-2009, 03:04 PM
...How does this sound for a good week:
Tomorrow: Duke 33 holes 16;
Friday The 13th: HB: "I have decided to attend Duke University";
Saturday The 14th: Duke 24 Ga Tech 23......

Yeah.. that sounds like a plan to me...

11/13 Duke 103 UNCG 43

moonpie23
11-06-2009, 03:32 PM
hahaha it was definitely an entertaining 30 minutes. you can tell, when someone hates duke and the program, they don't ever really make sense with their reasoning. and these dudes HATE duke.

talk about some homers........sheesh...

thewiseben
11-06-2009, 04:58 PM
What in the world are these guys talking about? This is the most asinine podcast I've ever heard.

Talking about his lack of a father for huge stretches? I can't believe how disgustingly condescending the guy is.

juise
11-06-2009, 07:55 PM
In response to that Iowan podcast... I know this may be trite, but...


Mr. Podcaster, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent argument were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Your listeners are now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Most of the horror of that podcast has already been covered. Here are a few of my favorites.

(1) They based the majority of their argument on there being a good chance that Harrison would not make it to or last in the NBA. Yes, the top prep basketball player in the country should make all his basketball decisions based on the presumption that he does not have a future in basketball.

(2) They strongly insinuated that the character quality of Iowa women is much stronger than other parts of the country.

(3) They flat out stated that Duke (and its basketball program) does not have a network of alumni that would "take care of Harrison." They then mention a few Dukies who have apparently disappeared and who knows what kind of life they have now. That list included Bobby Hurley (successful businessman) and Trajan Langdon (Euroleague champion/MVP). Great examples, guys.

(4) The stuff about his dad (which almost never gets mentioned because he's such an outstanding young man) started with a quick mentioned and they hammered on it for about 10 minutes straight. The guy clearly has no clue how methodical and level-headed Harrison has approached the recruiting process. It was just another fear-monger aspect of that ridiculous argument.

(5) The one host demonstrated his knowledge of major cities by saying that he's lived in places where he could see Disneyland and Disney World in the horizon.

(6) They ended with the argument that he would probably get tired of playing basketball overseas and eating "that crap food." This is clearly coming from a culturally enlightened person who has done some traveling and is open-minded to new experiences.

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-06-2009, 09:46 PM
I know Kyrie and Harrison are close friends/brothers but how they ever played together. I mean i know they have most likely played pick up games together but i want to know if they ever been on the same team for an aau event or somthing similar. If so do you have the stats? (most likely not but i figured i'll ask.)

-jk
11-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Folks,

Let's keep the discussion positive, and the focus on Barnes.

thanks,

-jk

tecumseh
11-07-2009, 08:32 PM
I am biased but I think Duke would be a good choice because he could contribute right away big time, not so sure about Carolina. But the other factor is the NBA ratings are not so great and if you end up a high draft pick and you get play for the Clippers, or the Timberwolves, or Jailblazers or the Capitals you disappear.

If you want to make a name for yourself to get endorsement money, or even a PR or TV or sales job afterward you need high exposure in college and or play for one of the high publicity teams like the Lakers and or make a splash in the Olympics.

SilkyJ
11-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Folks,

Let's keep the discussion positive, and the focus on Barnes.

thanks,

-jk

Please direct all reaction hatred here (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12437&page=11&highlight=tsunami).

We get hated on all the time guys. Its not even worth noticing/complaining about it anymore.

El_Diablo
11-07-2009, 10:15 PM
I am biased but I think Duke would be a good choice because he could contribute right away big time, not so sure about Carolina. But the other factor is the NBA ratings are not so great and if you end up a high draft pick and you get play for the Clippers, or the Timberwolves, or Jailblazers or the Capitals you disappear.

If you want to make a name for yourself to get endorsement money, or even a PR or TV or sales job afterward you need high exposure in college and or play for one of the high publicity teams like the Lakers and or make a splash in the Olympics.

So you're saying HB won't get high exposure at UNC, UCLA, Kansas, or OK? We're not talking about Northwest Illinois Tech here...he'll get exposure everywhere.

I'm not sure how the NBA draft position talk figures in one way or the other. There are plenty of people who went at the top of the draft to smaller-market teams who have done just fine. But you seem to have started following the NBA in 2008 or so...so I don't know where to really begin.

I mean, the Capitals? Really?

Newton_14
11-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Zags/Holes at it again. Why CJ Leslie's mom gets to comment on the Barnes recruitment is a bit puzzling. Especially since the holes stopped showing interest in CJ some time ago...

http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/07/c-j-leslie-may-wait-until-spring/

Sorry ol roy, but stunts like this are not going to sway Barnes. HB is quite aware that K wants him above all others. This is laughable...

SilkyJ
11-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Zags/Holes at it again. Why CJ Leslie's mom gets to comment on the Barnes recruitment is a bit puzzling. Especially since the holes stopped showing interest in CJ some time ago...

http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/07/c-j-leslie-may-wait-until-spring/

Sorry ol roy, but stunts like this are not going to sway Barnes. HB is quite aware that K wants him above all others. This is laughable...

I'm not sure I understand your issue with the article. Why can't his mom say what she was told by a coach recruiting her son? Also, are you saying you think Roy saying this to CJ is a stunt or do you think he tried to get Zags to publish this or something? The only thing this press accomplishes is to make HB know hes his #1 choice and he isn't offering others. But I'm sure he's already told HB that, as has K (who has the RS situation just as Roy has CJ). Am I missing something?

Newton_14
11-07-2009, 11:35 PM
I'm not sure I understand your issue with the article. Why can't his mom say what she was told by a coach recruiting her son? Are you saying you think Roy saying this is a stunt or do you think he tried to get Zags to publish this or something? The only thing that would accomplish is to make it HB knows hes his #1 choice and he isn't offering others. But I'm sure he's already told HB that, as has K (who can point to RS situation as proof). Am I missing something?

I just thought the timing to be a bit odd, and yes I half believe it was a stunt on ol roy's part. I am not 100% sure but I believe they are in a no contact period right now which would mean the conversation between her and the unc staff could not have been recent.

Am I being paranoid? Likely so. But I just thought everyone might want to see the article so I posted it.

I will be glad when Friday gets here and this recruitment is over....

Hermy-own
11-07-2009, 11:42 PM
There was a quick and unreliable post on the CBSsports boards that Coach K had visited Roscoe Smith recently. Is this true? Even if it is, I don't know if that is bad news in the HB sweepstakes or not.

eightyearoldsdude
11-08-2009, 12:06 AM
There was a quick and unreliable post on the CBSsports boards that Coach K had visited Roscoe Smith recently. Is this true? Even if it is, I don't know if that is bad news in the HB sweepstakes or not.

K watched Roscoe play somewhere nearby (Gboro?) the other day. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same goes for Leslie's mom's quote. from what little I've heard, I don't think roy would have recruited Leslie even if Barnes had already verballed to some other school. I think it's a bit of face-saving on their part. We're all in the dark.

Bob Green
11-08-2009, 12:11 AM
There was a quick and unreliable post on the CBSsports boards that Coach K had visited Roscoe Smith recently. Is this true?


K watched Roscoe play somewhere nearby (Gboro?) the other day.

Coach K watched Oak Hill Academy play Winston-Salem Prep in Winston-Salem on Thursday evening. Oak Hill won 87-62.

airowe
11-08-2009, 02:01 AM
That Cj Leslie info (and the quote from his Mom about feeling confident about Barnes is old. Zags was just recycling info in order to post a story somewhat related to Barnes because he doesn't have a connection with Barnes' Mom to get inside info. Almost all of Zags' sources are the players' Moms which he meets on the recruiting circuit.

It doesn't seem to be some sort of ploy or tactic by Roy though.

chrisheery
11-08-2009, 10:13 AM
Agreed. It seems like more of the same from Zags. Sensationalizing when there is no actual news.

I don't like it, but he can't be hurting his career. Even we are clicking his links and talking about him. That is the goal of any journalist or blogger. Well, at least on of them.

airowe
11-08-2009, 09:43 PM
Barnes highlight reel:

Here (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=53946&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d539 46%26season%3d2010)

Nothing special here, just something to bide the time until Friday...

soccerstud2210
11-08-2009, 09:55 PM
Barnes highlight reel:

Here (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=53946&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d539 46%26season%3d2010)

Nothing special here, just something to bide the time until Friday...

nice airowe! thanks for the link.

i just can't wait for this to be over. please friday get here soon

ChicagoCrazy84
11-09-2009, 10:34 AM
http://www.casualhoya.com/2009/11/6/1118608/barnes-set-to-announce-today


This and the Charlotte News and Observer both say that it is basically between Duke and UNC, so I am not listening to anything anyone else has to say until Friday. On a side note, funny how this kid takes a shot at Coach K. You're from Georgetown dude, where John Thompson III has been widely criticized for not using the talent he has correctly.

airowe
11-09-2009, 10:52 AM
I'll never visit that site again.

Its pointless to even debate what this guy had to say. Please don't give him anymore clicks.

CEF1959
11-09-2009, 01:22 PM
Agreed. I love the opening:

"Harrison Barnes, a top recruit from the Class of 2010, is expected to announce his decision next Friday (not this Friday like I initially wrote because I was too lazy to read the full email I received)."

In other words, "I don't know squat, and don't put much effort into knowing, but here's what I think based on my lack of knowledge...."

Huh?
11-09-2009, 03:14 PM
I just saw where we are recruiting some kid out of Iowa? Is he any good?

MChambers
11-09-2009, 03:40 PM
I just saw where we are recruiting some kid out of Iowa? Is he any good?

I recommend that you go back to sleep until late Friday afternoon.

BlueintheFace
11-09-2009, 03:49 PM
I just saw where we are recruiting some kid out of Iowa? Is he any good?

See- pages 1-79

It's a light read...

bigj4194
11-09-2009, 04:27 PM
I just saw where we are recruiting some kid out of Iowa? Is he any good?

nope :D

as a side note...over under on how many pages we add to this thread this week? as it stands currently we are at 80. I bet we make it to at least 100 by friday

CEF1959
11-09-2009, 04:34 PM
What's the record for most number of views in a thread?

BD80
11-09-2009, 04:40 PM
nope :D

as a side note...over under on how many pages we add to this thread this week? as it stands currently we are at 80. I bet we make it to at least 100 by friday

Considering there is little fact to be discussed, and it is unlikely that Harrison will let any info slip before Friday, those are going to be 20 BORING pages.



I'll check the thread several times a day anyway :o

G man
11-09-2009, 04:42 PM
I think that we could be posting a bunch more if news was being leaked from him or his family, but it seems like it is going to be a big surprise friday. Without all the gossip and rumors I think we will fall a little short, but then again who knows

CEF1959
11-09-2009, 04:47 PM
I told myself last Friday that posting to this thread between then and 11/13 would be stupid and a complete waste of time. And I'm sticking to that.

DOH!!!

shoutingncu
11-09-2009, 04:57 PM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091109/SPORTS0811/91109016

Just doing my part to get to 100. Nothing particularly new.

airowe
11-09-2009, 05:02 PM
What's the record for most number of views in a thread?

Here's the thread with the most views:

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12233&page=126&highlight=john+wall+recruitment

Here's the thread with the most replies, by a lot:

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5554&page=664&highlight=longest+thread

moonpie23
11-09-2009, 05:15 PM
I still like our chances, but, as i've said before.....the kid can't really lose picking any of the top 4.

i would hate to see him go to carolina, but, they are the champs and they are on a big roll since huck came to town......couldn't really blame him if he did.

i just think duke has more to offer a student athlete like harrison.

DukieBoy
11-09-2009, 05:15 PM
Well, I was moseying by the ustream of the UNC players in the locker room, and they say that "word on the street is HB is goin to Duke." I don't know how valuable that info is, but it's encouraging

airowe
11-09-2009, 05:16 PM
Well, I was moseying by the ustream of the UNC players in the locker room, and they say that "word on the street is HB is goin to Duke." I don't know how valuable that info is, but it's encouraging

Do you know which players said it?

HCheek37
11-09-2009, 05:19 PM
i asked the question in the thread and it was answered by Larry Drew and Dexter (Strickland?)

DukieBoy
11-09-2009, 05:20 PM
Do you know which players said it?

Well, I think one of them was Drew something and the other was a PG. I don't know who it was tho. I only know that from the comments and questions being asked. I don't know anyone on the holes roster this year, so sorry for the vague info

DukieBoy
11-09-2009, 05:22 PM
i asked the question in the thread and it was answered by Larry Drew and Dexter (Strickland?)

Thank you. I heard Drew or Deon or something. Encouraging news

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-09-2009, 05:47 PM
This sucks, i'm not going to have internet access next friday. So I don't know when i'm going to find the results.

Bob Green
11-09-2009, 06:19 PM
This sucks, i'm not going to have internet access next friday. So I don't know when i'm going to find the results.

You will know well in advance of Harrison Barnes heading off to college in the summer of 2010. :)

TxBluedevil
11-09-2009, 06:31 PM
I would think that UNC players would have more knowledge on the situation than any of us have, with the exception of someone with a lot of inside info, but the news that UNC players have said that seems promising to me.

We have recruited him for somewhere around 2 years from what I understand, Kansas too, UNC not even 1/4 of the amount we have. Barnes seems like someone that would be loyal to those that have been on him, so in my mind its Kansas Vs. Duke, and if you go with what Seth Davis said on his twitter, Duke has the edge.

Exiled_Devil
11-09-2009, 07:07 PM
Well, I was moseying by the ustream of the UNC players in the locker room, and they say that "word on the street is HB is goin to Duke." I don't know how valuable that info is, but it's encouraging

What does that mean? I hate the idea that I am behind on some technology, but how does one "mosey by the ustream?"

TxBluedevil
11-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Idk what Moseying by it means, but Ustream if you don't know is basically video chat with other people. Someone will put up a Ustream and then people can enter the chatroom and send them text responses to whatever they may say, or ask questions for the person Ustreaming to answer. Does that answer your Question or did you mean how does someone mosey on a Ustream lol

bgibbs1001
11-09-2009, 07:15 PM
http://www.casualhoya.com/2009/11/6/1118608/barnes-set-to-announce-today


This and the Charlotte News and Observer both say that it is basically between Duke and UNC, so I am not listening to anything anyone else has to say until Friday. On a side note, funny how this kid takes a shot at Coach K. You're from Georgetown dude, where John Thompson III has been widely criticized for not using the talent he has correctly.

Screw The Charlotte Observer, they are wrong. It's actually between Duke and, well Duke.:)

moonpie23
11-09-2009, 07:19 PM
it must terrify coaches to know their kids are doing un-supervised interviews via ustreamtv.com

JaMarcus Russell
11-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Moseying just means he casually came across the U-Stream link, so it's nothing too technical :D

TxBlueDevil explained what U-Stream is pretty well, so there's no reason to go into that.

taiw93
11-09-2009, 08:07 PM
It seems to me that the general consensus among UNC fans is that he's going to Duke, and the general consensus among Duke fans is that he's going to UNC, according to my observations of this board, as well as of IC and TDD. This alone should tell you how close to the vest Harrison is keeping his decision, and how little everyone actually knows.

CEF1959
11-09-2009, 08:09 PM
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chose UCLA. LA is a big, fun media market where they have nice weather and beaches. He would rip the Pac-10 to shreds.

chrisheery
11-09-2009, 08:15 PM
It seems to me that the general consensus among UNC fans is that he's going to Duke, and the general consensus among Duke fans is that he's going to UNC, according to my observations of this board, as well as of IC and TDD. This alone should tell you how close to the vest Harrison is keeping his decision, and how little everyone actually knows.

Really? I get a general sense of calm from this board that was no present during the John Wall fiasco. Its indicates to me that many of us (myself included) have a gut feeling he will be a Blue Devil. I am prepared for him not to, but being as objective as I can be, I think he will choose Duke.

Newton_14
11-09-2009, 08:28 PM
It seems to me that the general consensus among UNC fans is that he's going to Duke, and the general consensus among Duke fans is that he's going to UNC, according to my observations of this board, as well as of IC and TDD. This alone should tell you how close to the vest Harrison is keeping his decision, and how little everyone actually knows.

Count me OUT of the crowd that feels he is going to select unc. I have believed for some time now that he will choose Duke and I have not changed my mind.

I think Kansas "fought" themselves out of it with the brawl between their FB/BB teams and unc was never really as close as people thought.

I think this board blows up in a good way come Friday about 2:10 pm est.

airowe
11-09-2009, 08:30 PM
Count me OUT of the crowd that feels he is going to select unc. I have believed for some time now that he will choose Duke and I have not changed my mind.

I think Kansas "fought" themselves out of it with the brawl between their FB/BB teams and unc was never really as close as people thought.

I think this board blows up in a good way come Friday about 2:10 pm est.

Press conference is scheduled for 4 PM EST.

ChicagoCrazy84
11-09-2009, 09:13 PM
I think if he doesn't go to Duke, he will go to Oklahoma. They got a great thing going there and he has a great relationship with Jeff Capel. Also, I am not a major prospect (yet), but if I were, I would think it would be awkward a little to face a team that I was so close to on a personal level. So, I just can't see him going to UNC and going up against Coach K, KI, and Andre 2-3 times a year. I'd want to stay further away from that as possible and just concentrate on my game.

DukieBoy
11-09-2009, 09:14 PM
What does that mean? I hate the idea that I am behind on some technology, but how does one "mosey by the ustream?"

It means that I was bored and resorted to watching UNC's pregame locker room. I tried a sophisticated approach with big words to divert the attention away from the fact that I was watching a UNC based stream. It appears it worked

taiw93
11-09-2009, 09:57 PM
Really? I get a general sense of calm from this board that was no present during the John Wall fiasco. Its indicates to me that many of us (myself included) have a gut feeling he will be a Blue Devil. I am prepared for him not to, but being as objective as I can be, I think he will choose Duke.

There are certainly large factions of Duke and UNC fans that feel Barnes will come to their school. However, it seems very clear to me that each fanbase is collectively more pessimistic than the other side thinks it should be.

WannabeDukie
11-09-2009, 10:01 PM
I truly think he will end up at Duke. I read somewhere that he will allow coaches to talk to him on Thursday before he makes his decision on Fri. I hate to say it but if he tells the coaches thursday of his decision, there is a possibility that it will be leaked. Lets all hope not because the suspense thursday night is going to be off the charts...

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-09-2009, 10:04 PM
I truly think he will end up at Duke. I read somewhere that he will allow coaches to talk to him on Thursday before he makes his decision on Fri. I hate to say it but if he tells the coaches thursday of his decision, there is a possibility that it will be leaked. Lets all hope not because the suspense thursday night is going to be off the charts...

I am not sure he will tell the coaches that thursday. Maybe(and this is just me talking no inside info) he just wants to get reassurance about his decision and feel everything out one more time. I think he will tell the coaches on friday morning or right before he goes on live.

WannabeDukie
11-09-2009, 10:07 PM
I am not sure he will tell the coaches that thursday. Maybe(and this is just me talking no inside info) he just wants to get reassurance about his decision and feel everything out one more time. I think he will tell the coaches on friday morning or right before he goes on live.

Yea, you are probably correct based on the mature way he has managed his recruitment. I hope K has pulled through in the clutch.

Exiled_Devil
11-10-2009, 12:03 AM
it must terrify coaches to know their kids are doing un-supervised interviews via ustreamtv.com

My first thought as well - I can't imagine that this will go on for too long.

How do they stream this stuff? Webcams + Wifi in the locker room?

Is Ustream a place where people set up future streams or is it more spontaneous video chat/broadcast? Does it require some serious searching? Becuase if it did, you really did need to cover up with big words, DukieBoy ;)

DukieBoy
11-10-2009, 01:16 AM
My first thought as well - I can't imagine that this will go on for too long.

How do they stream this stuff? Webcams + Wifi in the locker room?

Is Ustream a place where people set up future streams or is it more spontaneous video chat/broadcast? Does it require some serious searching? Becuase if it did, you really did need to cover up with big words, DukieBoy ;)

Only reason I got on it was because someone had a link posted on the board too it so I thought I'd browse to see what it was like. Wasn't interesting at all. Featured Drew and whoever else staring at a screen reading comments, then they handed the computer to Ed Davis, where he did the same. Literally, that's all they did.

And you don't necessarily set them up in advance, but most do. It's mainly for athletes or celebrities. For example, Stephon Marbury did a 24-hour ustream in the offseason. But if they really want viewers, people will set it up in advance and let everyone know.

Kewlswim
11-10-2009, 01:30 AM
Hi,

If memory serves me correctly Hansblahla went to UNC after Duke picked up the #1 recruit in that class, Monsieur McBob. I seemed to like Josh more than a lot of people on here did, but T.H. turned out the better college player. I truly want H.B. to attend Duke, but if he does not there are other players and things might actually work out better. Recruiting is not an exact science.

That being said, Danny Ferry was the number one player out of his class and though no NCAA championships were won Duke had some nice runs. I hope Harrison makes the right choice and is happy with his decision. It is after all about a kid getting the chance to play basketball AND get an education.

GO DUKE!

Duke79UNLV77
11-10-2009, 08:54 AM
with lots of empty seats. Of course, it was only opening night for a team coming off a national championship. Too bad Barnes didn't get a chance to see what most games are like at the Dean Dome.

Bluedevil114
11-10-2009, 09:12 AM
Coach K just rescheduled on Mike and Mike Show stating something just came up in his schedule. He is now on their show tomorrow. What could this mean?

airowe
11-10-2009, 09:22 AM
Probably means something came up on his schedule.

MulletMan
11-10-2009, 10:30 AM
OK. This whole thing has just totally jumped the shark. I'll see you all next week. With or without Barnes life will go on and I'll still be a Duke fan.

bigj4194
11-10-2009, 10:31 AM
If anyone is interested here is the Ames High School Athletic Department Press Release about the announcement. Nothing new though.


Ames High School Athletic Department

Ames High School senior Harrison Barnes, the nation’s top basketball prospect, will announce his college selection during a national letter of intent signing ceremony Friday, November 13, 2009. The ceremony will begin at 3:00 p.m. in the Ames High School gymnasium.

Harrison, a member of the 2009 AHS state championship boys basketball team, was honored as the Iowa High School Athletic Association (IHSAA) 4A All-Tournament Team Captain. Harrison is a 3-year letter winner in basketball and a 2-year letter winner in track. He is a 2009 Advanced Placement (AP) Scholar and named to the Academic All-conference Team in 2007 and 2009. The Des Moines Register twice named Harrison to the 4A First Team All-State and the 4A Elite All-CIML First Team.

Harrison began garnering national attention his sophomore year and in 2009, was named to PARADE Magazine’s All-America Second Team, and as Gatorade’s Iowa Player of the Year.

Media and the public are invited to attend Harrison’s news conference and letter signing. They are asked to enter through the AHS Activities Entrance. The ceremony will begin promptly at 3:00 p.m. with a brief introduction by AHS boys basketball coach Vance Downs. Harrison will then begin his remarks. At 3:10 p.m. ESPNU will join the news conference and carry Harrison’s signing live on its network.

Following the signing, Harrison will hold a short question-and-answer period for media attending the event. Reporters are asked to remain in their designated seating area during the question-and-answer portion of the news conference. A short reception with refreshments will take place on the gymnasium balcony after the news conference.

soccerstud2210
11-10-2009, 10:50 AM
Probably means something came up on his schedule.

dude, you can't say things like that while i am reading and taking a sip of my coffee. I about spit it out all over my macbook from laughing. sheesh :)

go duke!

come quickly friday 13th, come quickly

Sgt. Dingleberry
11-10-2009, 10:55 AM
Coach K just rescheduled on Mike and Mike Show stating something just came up in his schedule. He is now on their show tomorrow. What could this mean?

I work in Chapel Hill and just got back from breakfast...

I overheard one of the guys in the kitchen saying Coach K is pushing hard to get "Trust in Roy" on his staff. He has put the Barnes recruitment on hold, as well as all other commitments, and "Trust in Roy" has become his top priority...;)

flyingdutchdevil
11-10-2009, 11:04 AM
I work in Chapel Hill and just got back from breakfast...

I overheard one of the guys in the kitchen saying Coach K is pushing hard to get "Trust in Roy" on his staff. He has put the Barnes recruitment on hold, as well as all other commitments, and "Trust in Roy" has become his top priority...;)

I am so confused by this post. Anyone?

El_Diablo
11-10-2009, 11:05 AM
I work in Chapel Hill and just got back from breakfast...

I overheard one of the guys in the kitchen saying Coach K is pushing hard to get "Trust in Roy" on his staff. He has put the Barnes recruitment on hold, as well as all other commitments, and "Trust in Roy" has become his top priority...;)

No, TrustinRoy turned him down. So Coach K has been calling him at all hours (even while eating at Outback) trying to get him to change his mind.

TxBluedevil
11-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Yeah I'm not sure what he meant either. What is/who is trust in Roy?

roywhite
11-10-2009, 11:08 AM
I am so confused by this post. Anyone?

That's a satirical take-off on the "story" that was making it's way around the message boards last week...that a waiter overheard Coach K receiving a phone call from HB telling him that he was cancelling an open workout at Ames High School that Coach K was going to attend....the waiter said that Coach K appeared to have a negative reaction to the news and the conversation.

Didn't appear to be a solid story.

We'll hear from HB soon enough.

Trust in Roy is the screen name of a regular Inside Carolina message board poster. He occasionally has inside information, but is often wrong, and tilts decidedly to the light blue in his views.

Sgt. Dingleberry
11-10-2009, 11:10 AM
I am so confused by this post. Anyone?

Just a joke..

Trust in Roy is a poster is over on Inside Carolina claiming to have all the inside information on the Barnes situation...He is viewed as a deity over there...

Huh?
11-10-2009, 01:56 PM
Seriously, someone spill the beans, where is HB going?

BlueintheFace
11-10-2009, 02:02 PM
Seriously, someone spill the beans, where is HB going?

Duke

Azdukefan
11-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Duke

If you say it, I believe it! Welcome home Harrison!

soccerstud2210
11-10-2009, 02:28 PM
If you say it, I believe it! Welcome home Harrison!

"if you build it, they will come"

does the phrase "if you say it, he will come" apply here??? :)

NSDukeFan
11-10-2009, 02:30 PM
Duke

I believe I heard Zag typing out his next blog, breaking the story.

Battierfan01
11-10-2009, 02:31 PM
"if you build it, they will come"

does the phrase "if you say it, he will come" apply here??? :)

I hope so. I am sure everyone on DBR will be glad to say it. DUKE DUKE DUKE

bigj4194
11-10-2009, 02:53 PM
A friend of mine watched an clip on ESPN with someone who chatted with Barnes's Mother this morning and she said the he still hasn't even eliminated a single team so is still far from a decision. She also said that Harrison will more than likely notify the program he picks Friday morning only a few hours before the decision is made public on TV and that any rumors before then are completely false.

is it friday yet?

BD80
11-10-2009, 02:54 PM
Harrison coming to Duke will ensure Coach K will be the winningest Coach ever.

He is 40+ wins behind Coach Knight, and this year's team will win around 30.

We know Coach K will be at the helm for at least as long Kyrie and Harrison are here, therefore, winning his way way past Knight. Can Billy D stay away from the pros long enough to pass him? Josh Pastner may be the only other one with a chance.

Back to recruiting, wonder how many recruits will take unofficial visits to Duke the weekend of Feb 12, when:

"Over 300 former players, managers, coaches and trainers, spanning the past 70+ years of Duke Basketball, will be invited back for the celebration"

of Coach K's 1000th game.

http://bluedevilnation.net/2009/11/former-duke-players-will-return-in-droves-for-coach-ks-1000th-game/

I'll bet Austin and Doc Rivers will be there. (NBA all star weekend)

Hopefully Harrison will be there to soak in the atmosphere of his new family.

Kfanarmy
11-10-2009, 03:36 PM
He is 40+ wins behind Coach Knight, and this year's team will win around 30.

I believe Bobby Knight has 902 and Coach K has 833...If Duke goes undefeated for the next two seasons, Coach K would catch Coach Knight right about the start of the ACC tourney at the end of the 2010-2011 season...more likely a few games into the 2011-2012 campaign.

mkline09
11-10-2009, 03:44 PM
When asked today on his show David Glenn said if he had to bet his life on it, which he isn't willing to do, he would go with Duke. Although he says he feels Carolina has a good shot. Ultimately he said his gut leads him to say Duke or Carolina. Come Friday we will know if his gut is accurate.

Huh?
11-10-2009, 04:29 PM
Someone tell HB I have bet my life on it so he needs to do the right thing.

CEF1959
11-10-2009, 04:33 PM
It's Duke. Here you go:

I was reading a blog on a completely unrelated internet site, and I noticed that the first letter in the first 10 lines spelled out an unusual pattern of letters. When I converted them to numbers using a simple formula (letter place in alphabet + 4 for "duke"), I came up with a 10 digit phone number.

I knew then that I was onto something.

Anyway, so I called that number, and said, "Tell me about Harrison Barnes."

And the guy, who obviously had just woken up and therefore would be unable to tell a lie, said [Get This!]

"Dude [mumble mumble mumble] puke."

Now look at that!! The first two letters of his message and the last two letters of his message spell "Duke."

Could it be any clearer?

Plus the tea leaves thing in my mug. It's a lock.

TxBluedevil
11-10-2009, 04:35 PM
A friend of mine watched an clip on ESPN with someone who chatted with Barnes's Mother this morning and she said the he still hasn't even eliminated a single team so is still far from a decision. She also said that Harrison will more than likely notify the program he picks Friday morning only a few hours before the decision is made public on TV and that any rumors before then are completely false.

is it friday yet?

Well this post seems to rule out Coach K/Outback Waiter incident. Which makes me happy lol. I've thought all along we were the front runners but has anyone ever heard Barnes say we were, like at all during his recruitment or was it just implied bc he has visited so much? Also is there a video link to that ESPN interview with his mom?

soccerstud2210
11-10-2009, 04:41 PM
It's Duke. Here you go:

I was reading a blog on a completely unrelated internet site, and I noticed that the first letter in the first 10 lines spelled out an unusual pattern of letters. When I converted them to numbers using a simple formula (letter place in alphabet + 4 for "duke"), I came up with a 10 digit phone number.

I knew then that I was onto something.

Anyway, so I called that number, and said, "Tell me about Harrison Barnes."

And the guy, who obviously had just woken up and therefore would be unable to tell a lie, said [Get This!]

"Dude [mumble mumble mumble] puke."

Now look at that!! The first two letters of his message and the last two letters of his message spell "Duke."

Could it be any clearer?

Plus the tea leaves thing in my mug. It's a lock.

oh wow! I was just about to give my debbie downer speech about how we need to start preparing ourselves to go on without HB cmoe friday... now... bring on HB!!!! to DUKE!!!!! :)

TxBluedevil
11-10-2009, 04:47 PM
The news just keeps getting better and better haha. And the best part is, it's not farfetched news like a waiter "overhearing", it's actually news from the actual mouths of people involved or atleast in associated with this recruiting. I live in Tx and have been to Duke once, if HB commits I will be at a Duke game next yr sometime haha

BlueintheFace
11-10-2009, 04:53 PM
When does the Dan Brown novel on Barnes' recruitment come out?

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-10-2009, 04:54 PM
A week after friday

RainingThrees
11-10-2009, 04:56 PM
When does the Dan Brown novel on Barnes' recruitment come out?

Amid all the lies...the truth is out there.

Taco
11-10-2009, 06:15 PM
Uh, why is everyone freaking out? Benjamin Franklin wrote Harrison Barnes' college decision on the back of the Declaration of Independence. If you guys want to know just go look at it, sheesh.

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Uh, why is everyone freaking out? Benjamin Franklin wrote Harrison Barnes' college decision on the back of the Declaration of Independence. If you guys want to know just go look at it, sheesh.

so HB is a prophet all along huh.

Tucknut
11-10-2009, 06:27 PM
so HB is a prophet all along huh.

No, but Miss Cleo is. And she says Duke. Done deal. :cool:

DukieBoy
11-10-2009, 06:35 PM
I thought John Wall's recruitment thread was bad, but this has gone above and beyond. I don't know if I should be impressed or worried that we are obsessing over someone who is younger than even me (and I'm a college freshman).

ChicagoCrazy84
11-10-2009, 06:43 PM
I thought John Wall's recruitment thread was bad, but this has gone above and beyond. I don't know if I should be impressed or worried that we are obsessing over someone who is younger than even me (and I'm a college freshman).


It's best not to think about the age difference. You know what they say, love knows no boundaries.

chrisheery
11-10-2009, 06:45 PM
so HB is a prophet all along huh.

I think that would make him a messiah (fulfilling prophecy) more than a prophet (writing prophecy).

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-10-2009, 06:55 PM
No, but Miss Cleo is. And she says Duke. Done deal. :cool:

LOL I would love to think that as well but last i heard she was in jail.

WannabeDukie
11-10-2009, 07:43 PM
HB could go anywhere guys... sit back and look at things... Most everything that has said he is leaning here or there is just opinions of people that have been passed on... HB sadly could choose anywhere


PLEASE CHOOSE DUKE!!! W000000000000000T!!!

ForkFondler
11-10-2009, 07:52 PM
I thought John Wall's recruitment thread was bad, but this has gone above and beyond. I don't know if I should be impressed or worried that we are obsessing over someone who is younger than even me (and I'm a college freshman).

It's not about Harrison Barnes. It's about the team. And there's no i in team. There's no i in Duke either. However, there is an i in "Carolina". So, HB should come to Duke, unless he prefers Houston Babtist, of course.

ice-9
11-10-2009, 08:43 PM
I personally have a hard time believing he hasn't chosen a school, or hasn't trimmed the list in some way. To me it's marketing spin to keep reporters at bay until Friday morning.

The kid knows where he's going. As does his mom.

But they're keeping things tight.

Wheat/"/"/"
11-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I like this kid more and more every day.

He's playing the game the way it should be played. Saying all the right things, doing all the right things.

I wish someone was making a documentary on his recruitment and could force every HS big shot recruit to sit through it.

I have no clue where he will choose to go, of course I'd love to see him at UNC, but I could live with him at Duke.

I just want him in the ACC so I can see him play.

Battierfan01
11-10-2009, 08:58 PM
I personally have a hard time believing he hasn't chosen a school, or hasn't trimmed the list in some way. To me it's marketing spin to keep reporters at bay until Friday morning.

The kid knows where he's going. As does his mom.

But they're keeping things tight.

I agree. I don't believe that HB has not at least "trimmed" his list down. There are basically only 2 days before his decision and I don't believe that he doesn't know where he will be playing basketball next year.

I must admit that the whole HB recruitment has been a ton of FUN. It has been kinda of like buying a lottery ticket and waiting for the numbers to be announced!! I certainly hope we win.

PSurprise
11-10-2009, 09:08 PM
It's interesting to watch on this board how the run-up to this announcement is different than John Wall's. Makes me have some faith in the system again (to a degree). Harrison seems like a great kid and I wish him luck wherever he goes (although if he goes somewhere else and plays Duke I hope he goes 0-20 and fouls out in three minutes).
Look forward to Friday (hopefully!)

Wheat/"/"/"
11-10-2009, 09:26 PM
There are basically only 2 days before his decision and I don't believe that he doesn't know where he will be playing basketball next year.


As a hypothetical situation.....

Let's say HB has in his mind that he wants to go to Kansas and plans to announce Friday, but is keeping it close to the vest.

Being the smart kid that he is, he's building some intrigue along with name recognition with some free press that is helping brand his name, which can add up to big bucks at the next level in endorsements.

Then Thursday night, on the eve of his announcement, out of the blue something happens at Kansas. Some type of scandal, unfortunately not all that uncommon in college hoops.

Friday morning he re-evaluates and decides he wants no part of dealing with whatever happened.

So he announces for his second option, complete with positive words for his new school, never commenting on the Kansas problems and moves on.

Since he kept his options open to the end, until he actually made the announcement, he avoids alll kinds of issues, associations, had his intentions leaked out and he was publicy forced to backpeddle.

Stranger things have happened.

It's his life and it's always good to keep and have options. What does it hurt, from his perspective?

Smart kid. Smart family.

BlueintheFace
11-10-2009, 09:36 PM
He knows. He definitely knows.

Devil's Advocate
11-10-2009, 09:54 PM
As a hypothetical situation.....

Let's say HB has in his mind that he wants to go to Kansas and plans to announce Friday, but is keeping it close to the vest.

Being the smart kid that he is, he's building some intrigue along with name recognition with some free press that is helping brand his name, which can add up to big bucks at the next level in endorsements.

Then Thursday night, on the eve of his announcement, out of the blue something happens at Kansas. Some type of scandal, unfortunately not all that uncommon in college hoops.

Friday morning he re-evaluates and decides he wants no part of dealing with whatever happened.

So he announces for his second option, complete with positive words for his new school, never commenting on the Kansas problems and moves on.

Since he kept his options open to the end, until he actually made the announcement, he avoids alll kinds of issues, associations, had his intentions leaked out and he was publicy forced to backpeddle.

Stranger things have happened.

It's his life and it's always good to keep and have options. What does it hurt, from his perspective?

Smart kid. Smart family.

I see where you're going with this, but if this were true, he could simply delay his announcement as long as he wants. Who would say no to him if he decided the day before Fall classes start? But I have to agree, he's pretty much made of his mind. By saying he hasn't it gives him a free pass to not speak to his leaning until he announces. Who'd know? Nobody.

Best education, best basketball program, best choice for HB: Duke.

SilkyJ
11-10-2009, 10:07 PM
I see where you're going with this, but if this were true, he could simply delay his announcement as long as he wants.

Sure, but at some point you want it be over with. All the media phone calls, interviews, hoopla. So you set a date to get it over with (the early signing period) and keep your options open til then.

uh_no
11-10-2009, 10:11 PM
if someone uses the phrase 'close to his vest' again in this thread.....i might have to whack-a-mole

DukieBoy
11-10-2009, 10:20 PM
It's not about Harrison Barnes. It's about the team. And there's no i in team. There's no i in Duke either. However, there is an i in "Carolina". So, HB should come to Duke, unless he prefers Houston Babtist, of course.

To be technical, there is a me in team

striker219
11-10-2009, 11:32 PM
if someone uses the phrase 'close to his vest' again in this thread.....i might have to whack-a-mole

Have you decided which mole to whack yet? Or are you keeping that decision close to the vest?

Wildling
11-10-2009, 11:42 PM
I swear, Friday can't get here soon enough. I read all 85 pages of this thread these past 2 days. What's wrong with me........

I must say, I am a "the glass is half empty type of guy". But I am staying positive, I am happy Duke is on the shortlist. As a fan, I can't ask for anything more than that.

Go Duke!

DukieBoy
11-11-2009, 12:56 AM
My birthday is today, but nothing would be better than a late present at the hands of HB coming to Duke.

Greg_Newton
11-11-2009, 01:21 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/recruiting/basketball/2009-11-11-harrison-barnes-college-recruiting_N.htm

(Edit: whoops, just realized this is the same article as was in the des moines paper and linked on the front page. I guess I'll just leave it up in case anyone hasn't seen it yet...)

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-11-2009, 01:21 AM
My birthday is today, but nothing would be better than a late present at the hands of HB coming to Duke.

Happy Born Day and for the sake of Duke Fans every where, I hope you get your wish.

mgtr
11-11-2009, 01:24 AM
To be technical, there is a me in team

And, if he is musical, there is a "uke" in Duke. Actually, even if he isn't, there is. :D

ice-9
11-11-2009, 05:08 AM
I disagree with the USA Today article.

HB is a big priority, but I don't see him as the piece that defines success or failure in our recruiting. That piece is KI, who after some minor drama is on board. HB could take us to the next level but with KI we're fine even if HB chooses another school.

That said let's hope HB sees the light...the Duke blue one. :D

oldnavy
11-11-2009, 07:00 AM
It's not about Harrison Barnes. It's about the team. And there's no i in team. There's no i in Duke either. However, there is an i in "Carolina". So, HB should come to Duke, unless he prefers Houston Babtist, of course.

OK, but I am Pretty sure there is a P in Baptist :D

oldnavy
11-11-2009, 07:24 AM
I disagree with the USA Today article.

HB is a big priority, but I don't see him as the piece that defines success or failure in our recruiting. That piece is KI, who after some minor drama is on board. HB could take us to the next level but with KI we're fine even if HB chooses another school.

That said let's hope HB sees the light...the Duke blue one. :D
Totally agree with the assessment. KI was the one. I would love to get HB, but I did a happy dance when KI announced.

HB has to know at this point or at least have the choice narrowed down. It is a HUGE decision for him, with no bad opitions, so I understand why he is taking his time. My guess would be that he knows where he is going in his heart, but he just needs to convince his head to follow. I believe it is DUKE all the way, but hey, I bleed dark blue!!

SupaDave
11-11-2009, 07:35 AM
And, if he is musical, there is a "uke" in Duke. Actually, even if he isn't, there is. :D

Or if you just trust in "K" then you will relax and know we are "Due"...

Bluedevil114
11-11-2009, 07:59 AM
Or if you just trust in "K" then you will relax and know we are "Due"...

All we know is that Coach K and the rest of the staff did one hell of a job recruiting Harrison Barnes. They put out all stops and really did a better job recruiting Barnes than the rest of the schools on here. We made him feel part of a family and the Crazies were outstanding.

If we do not get Harrison Barnes it will look like another near miss top recruit for Coach K. We will hear its the Olympics or his age or something else ridiculous. If Carolina gets him, we will hear Coach K cant recruit with Roy.

As I will be disappointed in not getting Barnes.......I will know in the bottom of my heart that Coach K has done it the right way and has tweaked his recruiting strategies this year.

The future does look bright.

I still feel this comes down for Harrison like Wall, a relationship built with a Coach. He has visited Duke four times on his own, surprised Coach K on his Birthday and was treated so special on his OV. Barnes mentioning many times 'we" when speaking about team activities.

Kyrie Irving we all know is calling him daily and pushing it from his angle. Andre Dawkins is the second best recruiter in the State of NC behind Coach K.

I believe in the end this is too much for a 17 yrs old kid to overcome. He definitely chooses Duke. He can not choose North Carolina knowing our rivalry and how that may affect Coach K who has been recruiting him from the beginning.

But I still love how Harrison has kept his CLOSE TO THE VEST.

GO DUKE!!! GO DUKE!!! GO DUKE!!! GO DUKE!!! GO DUKE!!! GO DUKE!!!

rotogod00
11-11-2009, 08:46 AM
I disagree with the USA Today article.

HB is a big priority, but I don't see him as the piece that defines success or failure in our recruiting. That piece is KI, who after some minor drama is on board. HB could take us to the next level but with KI we're fine even if HB chooses another school.

That said let's hope HB sees the light...the Duke blue one. :D

agree with you that irving is probably a more important recruit ON THE FLOOR than barnes is. having a top flight point guard is immeasurable.

however, as far as the overall recruiting picture goes and silencing the "coach k can't recruit anymore" critics, inking barnes is crucial. he's been our #1 target and focus in this class for 2 years now. if he goes elsewhere, it'll be a big-time blow to the program imo. maybe more a blow to image than anything else, but a blow just the same. especially if we lose him to down the road to carolina who entered into his recruitment so late.

flyingdutchdevil
11-11-2009, 08:48 AM
But I still love how Harrison has kept his CLOSE TO THE VEST.


Completely agree. That said, Barnes has probably caused over a $5 million in lost productivity due to people like us frequently reading about him rather than doing our work :p

And they say bankers were the cause of the recession...

G man
11-11-2009, 08:48 AM
agree with you that irving is probably a more important recruit ON THE FLOOR than barnes is. having a top flight point guard is immeasurable.

however, as far as the overall recruiting picture goes and silencing the "coach k can't recruit anymore" critics, inking barnes is crucial. he's been our #1 target and focus in this class for 2 years now. if he goes elsewhere, it'll be a big-time blow to the program imo. especially if we lose him to down the road to carolina who entered into his recruitment so late.

What bothers me is the bad media we will get if we do not win this little battle. I would not be surprised to find a few articles on how K is loosing it if Barnes does not sign with DUKE. I do think in the end he will be a Devil, but I am bracing for the worst like everyone else!

Bluedog
11-11-2009, 10:20 AM
An interesting quote in the article:


"I plan to go to school for three years, and graduate in that time," Barnes said. "If the opportunity to leave early arises, I'll adjust when that happens."

This would be much harder to do at Duke than other schools for HB since Duke only accepts a maximum of 2 AP credits. The other schools on his list have no limits, I believe, so you could essentially enroll as an academic sophomore. Duke doesn't do that since then like 50% of its incoming class would be academic sophomores. I don't think this a major issue, but certainly might be a small consideration. I also don't know how many AP credits he actually will get. He could find a way to do the three-year program like JWill, I'm sure - just gotta do summer school every year, which they do anyways. I'm just saying it'd be even easier to do it at his other choices; but HB doesn't seem to base his decisions on what is easy, but rather on what is best.

It's also interesting on its own in that he clearly states he wants his degree, something many players of his caliber never utter words of.

Battierfan01
11-11-2009, 10:21 AM
What bothers me is the bad media we will get if we do not win this little battle. I would not be surprised to find a few articles on how K is loosing it if Barnes does not sign with DUKE. I do think in the end he will be a Devil, but I am bracing for the worst like everyone else!

G Man, I totally agree with you. I think if we lose out on HB the media will jump all over it and use it as another way to criticize Coach K and his "inability" to recruit big time players. I also think that if we get HB the media will lay low and we won't hear any praises for Coach K's ability to still recruit and the fact that he has landed two of the biggest recruits in the 2010 class.

Dukiedevil
11-11-2009, 10:43 AM
An interesting quote in the article:



This would be much harder to do at Duke than other schools for HB since Duke only accepts a maximum of 2 AP credits. The other schools on his list have no limits, I believe, so you could essentially enroll as an academic sophomore. Duke doesn't do that since then like 50% of its incoming class would be academic sophomores. I don't think this a major issue, but certainly might be a small consideration. I also don't know how many AP credits he actually will get. He could find a way to do the three-year program like JWill, I'm sure - just gotta do summer school every year, which they do anyways. I'm just saying it'd be even easier to do it at his other choices; but HB doesn't seem to base his decisions on what is easy, but rather on what is best.

It's also interesting on its own in that he clearly states he wants his degree, something many players of his caliber never utter words of.

Actually, Duke has had a couple of instances where they have allowed incoming freshmen to start classes early in the summer and graduate in 3 years. Jason Williams comes immediately to mind, but I thought that Boozer and maybe a couple of others took this path as well. The fact that we have a history of working with recruits on this up front may actually be a positive in that reguard.

bigj4194
11-11-2009, 10:58 AM
An iowa state fan sent this to me today. it made me laugh
878

flyingdutchdevil
11-11-2009, 11:00 AM
Vegas odds (I'd cash in early if I were Barnes!) taken from Scout.com:

10:29 Just got off the phone with a handicapper from Vegas. Odds of signing Harrison Barnes: 5-2 Duke, 5-2 UNC, 10-1 Kansas, 40-1 Oklahoma, 45-1 UCLA, 100-1 Iowa State. Lines subject to change based on reaction by fan bases. We don't set 'em, just relay 'em. (DT)

-bdbd
11-11-2009, 11:11 AM
Actually, Duke has had a couple of instances where they have allowed incoming freshmen to start classes early in the summer and graduate in 3 years. Jason Williams comes immediately to mind, but I thought that Boozer and maybe a couple of others took this path as well. The fact that we have a history of working with recruits on this up front may actually be a positive in that reguard.

Two main thoughts:
(1) STOP with all of this hand-wringing gang! Though nobody will know for certain until Friday afternoon -- geez I love HB's discipline in keeping this to himself -- pretty much ANY of the other four schools would prefer to be in Duke's shoes heading down to the wire in the HB sweepstakes! Though not a lock by any means, we are certainly in a good position with a good school and program match for Harrison's personality/priorities, and enviable relationships (with coaches and players).
(2) I really like the HB mention of trying to get a degree in three years b/c it says great things about his priorities/focus, and IIRC Duke is the program on his list known for doing the 3-year degree program. I don't recall any top-notch players at OK, KA, UNC-ch earning a 3-year degree (though I could be wrong), a la some of Duke's top players.

Lighten up -- feel good about our situation. It is not a bad one vis-a-vis young Mr. Barnes!

Cheers!

-BDBD :o

airowe
11-11-2009, 11:28 AM
Also interesting in the article, "I feel like I've just begun to scratch the surface of (the Duke-Carolina) rivalry"

And, to respond to a poster above (can't quote on my Blackberry) Carolina has been on Barnes almost as long as Duke has so to say that Roy has swooped in and stolen Barnes from Duke is not completely true.

airowe
11-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Also, for all of you who follow guys on Twitter, both Jody Demling and Justin Young say Barnes to Duke in response to Jeff Goodman from Fox Sports.

cbnaylor
11-11-2009, 11:44 AM
In response to someone having a melt down, if by chance we don't get the commitment from Barnes, Duke is going to be ok. I have a feeling that Roscoe Smith will 100% come to Duke if Barnes doesn't which isn't bad either. I felt like the biggest recruit that needed to come Duke anyways was Irving. So hang in there.

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 11:55 AM
Also, for all of you who follow guys on Twitter, both Jody Demling and Justin Young say Barnes to Duke in response to Jeff Goodman from Fox Sports.

I'm not sure who any of those guys are, anyone care to help me out here? And when you said that UNC was on Barnes list as long as Duke was, did you mean he was interested, or that they were recruiting him? Bc I thought that Duke has had the edge on recruiting time by a long shot.

airowe
11-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Jody Demling is a basketball journalist for I believe the Courier-Journal in Louisville.

Justin Young has worked for both Rivals and Scout in different capacities covering basketball recruiting and is very connected. These are both just opinions though so take them FWIW.

Carolina has been recruiting Barnes for about 3 months less than Duke.

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Jody Demling is a basketball journalist for I believe the Courier-Journal in Louisville.

Justin Young has worked for both Rivals and Scout in different capacities covering basketball recruiting and is very connected. These are both just opinions though so take them FWIW.

Carolina has been recruiting Barnes for about 3 months less than Duke.

Well like I said before the news keeps getting better and better, I can't wait til Friday bc I feel strongly that we get HB. This doesn't feel like John Wall's did last year. I'm ready for this to be over so that we can focus on the season at hand... And soon enough Austin Rivers lol

Battierfan01
11-11-2009, 12:42 PM
Well like I said before the news keeps getting better and better, I can't wait til Friday bc I feel strongly that we get HB. This doesn't feel like John Wall's did last year. I'm ready for this to be over so that we can focus on the season at hand... And soon enough Austin Rivers lol

Yes I agree that this does feel different then John Wall last year. I never once felt that Wall was coming to Duke. I am however starting to feel strongly that we are going to get HB.

JasonEvans
11-11-2009, 12:59 PM
All I will say is that anyone who pretends to know something about what HB will do is just pretending. I don't think anyone has much of an idea.

Yes, it appears to be largely a Duke vs. UNC battle right now, but I think even that is just others projecting their own opinions onto Barnes. I would not be at all surprised if Barnes picked Kansas or Oklahoma.

Bottom line -- don't let these recruiting gurus get you swaying one way or another. We will all know at 4:10pm ET on Friday and, I suspect, we will not know much of anything about any of the contenders before then.

--Jason "lets try to avoid a meltdown if he picks UNC, ok people?" Evans

cbnaylor
11-11-2009, 01:01 PM
True but this does remind me of Patrick Patterson. Everyone thought we were getting Patterson until Billy came in and took him away.

BlueintheFace
11-11-2009, 01:12 PM
--Jason "lets try to avoid a meltdown if he picks UNC, ok people?" Evans

yah, okay. That should be easy (sarcasm very much intended)

Battierfan01
11-11-2009, 01:14 PM
yah, okay. That should be easy (sarcasm very much intended)

Yeah, no big deal right??

jimsumner
11-11-2009, 03:13 PM
I don't see much of a comparison between Barnes and Patterson. Duke got involved with Patterson pretty late in the game and never was regarded as the favorite to sign him.

Duke got involved with Barnes quite early in the game and has been regarded as the team to beat for some time.

ChicagoCrazy84
11-11-2009, 03:40 PM
yah, okay. That should be easy (sarcasm very much intended)


It depends what he means by "a meltdown." If he means leading an angry mob with flames and pitchforks to UNC's campus to start burning their buildings, then I can see his insight on this. Buuuuut, if he means crying uncontrollably and taking a few days off of work to deal with my emotions, then I would simply say, no!

cbnaylor
11-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Jimsumner,

I'm talking in regards to the type of blow that Duke faced when he didn't sign. It hurt. We were counting on him coming in to fill the void down low.

TwoDukeTattoos
11-11-2009, 04:06 PM
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_basketball/story/6398015/

Battierfan01
11-11-2009, 04:14 PM
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_basketball/story/6398015/

Man who would have ever thought that WRAL has all the inside knowledge on HB. We should have went there first for our answer.

El_Diablo
11-11-2009, 04:14 PM
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_basketball/story/6398015/

I think CJ's just trying to make an excuse for why UNC isn't recruiting him (and hasn't been for quite some time).

Battierfan01
11-11-2009, 04:18 PM
I think CJ's just trying to make an excuse for why UNC isn't recruiting him (and hasn't been for quite some time).

I actually had the same thought. The article sounds like its just as much about CJ as it is about HB.

KShip21
11-11-2009, 04:20 PM
I think CJ's just trying to make an excuse for why UNC isn't recruiting him (and hasn't been for quite some time).


“I think they’re planning to get him,” Leslie said of Barnes. “I think he’s going to go there. I think if they don’t get Harrison, they’ll be back on me.”

Huh? This quote kind of goes full circle, annnnd we're back to where were were 15 min ago. No one knows, no one will until Friday....

eightyearoldsdude
11-11-2009, 04:28 PM
“I think they’re planning to get him,” Leslie said of Barnes. “I think he’s going to go there. I think if they don’t get Harrison, they’ll be back on me.”

Huh? This quote kind of goes full circle, annnnd we're back to where were were 15 min ago. No one knows, no one will until Friday....

I think this is face-saving. Leslie has repeatedly bragged to the press about UNC's interest in him, yet word from insiders seems to be that we are not recruiting him, have not been recruiting him for several months, and will not recruit him no matter what Barnes decides. (Which not only disappoints Leslie, but me too, as I think he's a superfreaky talent with mental baggage no worse than Sheed or Shad.)

cbnaylor
11-11-2009, 04:31 PM
Are you kidding me, this is really a story? CJ has just the amount of cred as the homeless guy standing on the street!

Bluedevil114
11-11-2009, 04:38 PM
It depends what he means by "a meltdown." If he means leading an angry mob with flames and pitchforks to UNC's campus to start burning their buildings, then I can see his insight on this. Buuuuut, if he means crying uncontrollably and taking a few days off of work to deal with my emotions, then I would simply say, no!

I really almost choked on my lunch when reading this. Hilarious!! Only because I was thinking the same thing.....

DevilHorns
11-11-2009, 05:23 PM
I hate to be a downer, but that Leslie article stung me. I really hope he's full of it.

Greg_Newton
11-11-2009, 05:35 PM
I hate to be a downer, but that Leslie article stung me. I really hope he's full of it.

At this point I'll admit I get a little jumpy with every little ridiculous rumor, but this didn't worry me one bit. He obviously has no inside info, that's just speculation by someone less informed and rational than many who are speculating Duke, and his judgment of the situation is clearly clouded by his own ego.

Next rumor!

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 05:44 PM
I hate to be a downer, but that Leslie article stung me. I really hope he's full of it.

1 minute he says UNC is getting HB, the next it's well but if they don't get him... I too think Leslie is trying to make UNC's not recruiting him HB's fault instead of bc UNC just stopped. Bc apparently they stopped recruiting him a while back. We had someone post on here a day or 2 ago (somewhere on pg 84-85 I think) saying we said the same thing about Roscoe Smith, that we stoppedrecruiting him bc of our expectation to get HB. But honestly I think it's KU v. Duke not UNC v. Duke, the good thing is no matter who we're up against apparently we're the favorite, the bad thing is the word of us (or anyone for that matter) being the favorite has not come from HB himself. I am very hopeful I am just nervous lol.

Also does anyone find the fact that HB got in a private workout at KU instead of hanging out with the team a little troubling to KU's chances? It makes me feel like he didn't gel with everyone as well while he was there, maybe this is just wishful thinking.

Tim1515
11-11-2009, 05:46 PM
I said this on another thread.

Barnes made the comment about UK that they, "recruit everyone". Roy recruits everyone also...but he's smart enough to realize Barnes wants to be the only target and he's getting the word out.

I am worried about UNC...i've always thought it would be Duke until recently and comments like that don't help.

The thing that sticks with me is why did K go watch Roscoe? Roscoe knows the deal...everyone knows the deal...K wants Barnes and if he misses they'll go after Roscoe. We also know that Barnes is a great kid. Wouldn't you assume he would let K know as soon as he knew if he was going somewhere else so that K could pursue Smith?

Anyway i hope i'm wrong

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 05:57 PM
I thought Leslie was more of a 4 not a 3 so why would recruiting/not recruiting Leslie effect Barnes bc HB is a primary 3 and an NBA 3/2 probably? Unless they only have 1 scholarship left..

airowe
11-11-2009, 05:58 PM
I said this on another thread.

Barnes made the comment about UK that they, "recruit everyone". Roy recruits everyone also...but he's smart enough to realize Barnes wants to be the only target and he's getting the word out.

Except Roy doesn't need to nor is he getting the word out. I'm sure he told Barnes that himself in the 48 hours he was on campus and in the many plane trips, emails, phone calls, texts, love letters slipped into suit pockets, etc.


I am worried about UNC...i've always thought it would be Duke until recently and comments like that don't help.

If Harrison Barnes hasn't told anyone, he certainly hasn't told Carolina. Every school feels confident they are getting Barnes. Some more so than others. But, this really doesn't matter much. Carolina stopped recruiting Leslie about 2 months ago. This is not new news.


The thing that sticks with me is why did K go watch Roscoe? Roscoe knows the deal...everyone knows the deal...K wants Barnes and if he misses they'll go after Roscoe.

Why wouldn't he go watch Roscoe? He's a 30-45 minute drive down the street and he's on Duke's radar. He was being proactive. We should laud K for this, not question him.

moonpie23
11-11-2009, 05:59 PM
--Jason "lets try to avoid a meltdown if he picks UNC, ok people?" Evans

I'm sure we'll all be fine

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 06:02 PM
I said this on another thread.

Barnes made the comment about UK that they, "recruit everyone". Roy recruits everyone also...but he's smart enough to realize Barnes wants to be the only target and he's getting the word out.

I am worried about UNC...i've always thought it would be Duke until recently and comments like that don't help.

The thing that sticks with me is why did K go watch Roscoe? Roscoe knows the deal...everyone knows the deal...K wants Barnes and if he misses they'll go after Roscoe. We also know that Barnes is a great kid. Wouldn't you assume he would let K know as soon as he knew if he was going somewhere else so that K could pursue Smith?

Anyway i hope i'm wrong

maybe he wasn't going to recruit him, from what I heard K didn't really have to go out of his way to meet up and watch him. Maybe he went to tell him good luck with Uconn or Gtown bc we were no longer pursuing him. It is very possible, not everything is as bad as it seems, have faith in K, I think he's going to get this/something done to better our program.

El_Diablo
11-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I thought Leslie was more of a 4 not a 3 so why would recruiting/not recruiting Leslie effect Barnes bc HB is a primary 3 and an NBA 3/2 probably? Unless they only have 1 scholarship left..

Yes, UNC already has 13 scholarships tied up in 2011-12 if everyone stays. If Davis leaves early, then UNC will have an extra scholarship, which is presumably being held open for HB. If Davis and Henson leave early, then UNC could have another scholarship available for CJ Leslie, but they might want to save it for the 2011 class.

El_Diablo
11-11-2009, 06:27 PM
I love the claim that Roy is "only recruiting Harrison" though. First, he is already at the scholarship limit for 2011--so recruiting two 2010 players at this stage would be overkill (a la Calipari). Second, he already locked up another player at Harrison's position for 2010 (Reggie Bullock). How is that showing some sort of commitment to Harrison??? It's only fortuitous that Bullock already committed--otherwise Roy would still be all over him too.

Mike Corey
11-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I hate to be a downer, but that Leslie article stung me. I really hope he's full of it.

UNC dropped Leslie months ago. The article's misleading.

airowe
11-11-2009, 06:47 PM
I love the claim that Roy is "only recruiting Harrison" though. First, he is already at the scholarship limit for 2011--so recruiting two 2010 players at this stage would be overkill (a la Calipari). Second, he already locked up another player at Harrison's position for 2010 (Reggie Bullock). How is that showing some sort of commitment to Harrison??? It's only fortuitous that Bullock already committed--otherwise Roy would still be all over him too.

Not to mention all of the recruits present at the Alumni game for Harrison's OV. If he was only recruiting Harrison why invite so many guys to Carolina for that weekend.

Duke, Iowa State, and UCLA are the only schools till left that devoted all their time and energy to Barnes during his visit...

drksuh
11-11-2009, 08:02 PM
The university who gets Harrison Barnes will be most fortunate indeed. He is a super kid, who is very academically oriented, polished, and polite, and keeps his business very discrete sans rumor and innuendo and drama- and he just happens to be a high level basketball player who seems destined for an excellent college basketball experience and a long professional career.

Duke University or UNC appear likely as the two front runners but this classy kid has tipped off no one and appears to have seriously considered all six finalists thoughtfully and carefully. The fact that he changed his spring signing plan to November soon after the UNC Alumni game visit bodes well for the Tar Heels. The fact that he keeps referring to the Duke Blue Devils with "we" and "us" bodes well for Duke.

The bottom line is that this CIA capable holder of secrets is one of the few who know which hat he will wear on Friday. Even Coach K and Roy Williams probably are not sure which hat he will wear on Friday. Everything else then, is pure speculation.

Kudos to Harrison Barnes, one of the classiest recruits we have or will ever see.

uh_no
11-11-2009, 08:10 PM
so you're saying he'll keep the knowledge of which cap he'll wear....close to his vest?

Bob Green
11-11-2009, 08:17 PM
True but this does remind me of Patrick Patterson. Everyone thought we were getting Patterson until Billy came in and took him away.


I don't see much of a comparison between Barnes and Patterson. Duke got involved with Patterson pretty late in the game and never was regarded as the favorite to sign him.


Jimsumner,

I'm talking in regards to the type of blow that Duke faced when he didn't sign. It hurt. We were counting on him coming in to fill the void down low.

I believe you are overestimating Duke's position with Patterson. As Jim stated, Duke was never regarded as the favorite. I doubt the staff was "counting on him coming" to Duke.

BlueintheFace
11-11-2009, 08:28 PM
so you're saying he'll keep the knowledge of which cap he'll wear....close to his vest?

what if his announcement is actually made WITH A VEST.... let that sink in to your mind a bit..... yah

BlueintheFace
11-11-2009, 08:50 PM
We haven't had a battle for the #1 recruit (especially against UNC) in a looooooong time. K and the staff invested a lot of time and energy in to this recruitment and it is obviously a pretty important one to a lot of people. Naturally, tensions are high and people are a little on edge.

We are all cautiously optimistic, but there is always the chance that Friday turns out to be a bit depressing for the staff and the fans. Frankly, I can see things turning ugly around here real fast if people don't have some perspective. For this reason, I propose a pledge, win or lose, to set the appropriate tone on the board:

I PLEDGE TO ONLY SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT THE COACHING STAFF, HARRISON BARNES, AND THE DIRECTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.

Who will join me?

Welcome2DaSlopes
11-11-2009, 08:55 PM
We haven't had a battle for the #1 recruit (especially against UNC) in a looooooong time. K and the staff invested a lot of time and energy in to this recruitment and it is obviously a pretty important one to a lot of people. Naturally, tensions are high and people are a little on edge.

We are all cautiously optimistic, but there is always the chance that Friday turns out to be a bit depressing for the staff and the fans. Frankly, I can see things turning ugly around here real fast if people don't have some perspective. For this reason, I propose a pledge, win or lose, to set the appropriate tone on the board:

I PLEDGE TO ONLY SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT THE COACHING STAFF, HARRISON BARNES, AND THE DIRECTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.

Who will join me?

I will join this movement

TxBluedevil
11-11-2009, 08:56 PM
what if his announcement is actually made WITH A VEST.... let that sink in to your mind a bit..... yah

Like he wears a shirt with his team on it, but he has a bullet proof vest on and he just takes it off to show where he is going lol... I love it, as long as his shirt says Duke on it. haha

ccrazies_708
11-11-2009, 08:57 PM
This is great. Fans can get out of line pretty quickly and they can get pretty nasty. It can even go so far as to change a kid's mind (see Vander Blue) lets keep it classy, no matter what _arrison decides. As it has been said before, if you want to use profanity, go to Maryland.

moonpie23
11-11-2009, 09:12 PM
i was never speaking negatively, however, i shall honor and join your cause...

6th Man
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
I applaud Coach K's efforts this recruiting season. I still maintain Kyrie was the big prize, even if we get Harrison. Kyrie will make everyone better with his playmaking skills including Harrison Barnes. And if we don't get Harrison, Kyrie will be the type of player next year's big time talent will want to play with. Coach K put out a great effort win or lose. You never know how these things turn out anyway. If IF we don't get Harrison maybe Roscoe comes to Duke. You know Harrison has been the top dog with Duke and UNC. Roscoe earlier on liked both programs but UNC stopped recruiting him altogether and Duke has made him option 2. Maybe he comes to Duke and everytime he suits up against Harrison he shuts him down. I'm sure Roscoe would like the opportunity. Crazy scenario I know...but just saying. You never know how things will turn out.

I will agree we should all show class win or lose on the Barnes sweepstakes. I'll go out on a limb and say this isn't the last big time recruit we are in hot pursuit of. ;)

moonpie23
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
the number of posts has power-shifted into 3rd gear and the off-set quads are clearing their throats......:D

Kedsy
11-11-2009, 09:42 PM
I PLEDGE TO ONLY SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT THE COACHING STAFF, HARRISON BARNES, AND THE DIRECTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.

Who will join me?

I'm in.

Newton_14
11-11-2009, 09:56 PM
I'm in as well. HB has the right to choose the school that is best for him and should not have to justify it to anyone.

He is still a great kid no matter what his decision ends up being.

CameronBornAndBred
11-11-2009, 09:59 PM
+ + + +

striker219
11-11-2009, 10:00 PM
the number of posts has power-shifted into 3rd gear and the off-set quads are clearing their throats......:D

I'd like to think so, but I'm not nearly as optimistic about 100 pages as I was a week ago.

:(

Sorry H, it's nothing personal, it's just that most of the board is catatonic.