Kelvin Sampson Suspended

[BD80]

The decision has been made, but not yet published.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3258506

Why is it so important for them to say the decision wasn't made until this morning? Sounds like legalese CYA to me.

[BD80]

Justice?

It appears that at least some of the illegal (Per NCAA rules) calls were to Eric Gordon, the recruit Sampson stole from Illinois after Gordon had announced he would attend Illinois. This per a source of Skip Bayless on ESPN First and Ten.

It would then seem that the illegal calls improperly benefited Indiana. Would Sampson have been able to convince Gordon to renege on his commitment if he had limited his contact to what the NCAA permits?

[JG Nothing]

to add insult to injury - wasnt Sampson the head of the coaches compliance committee or something like that while he was at OU?

I'm not sure about any compliance committee, but he was president of the National Association of Basketball Coaches while violating the rules at OU.

[BD80]

SI's Luke Winn is reporting that Indiana players don't want to play for Dakich, but will play for Ray McCallum.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

[Carlos]

What about Mike Davis... will they play for him? He'd be a good choice.

[JasonEvans]

SI's Luke Winn is reporting that Indiana players don't want to play for Dakich, but will play for Ray McCallum.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

Indiana needs to tell the players "thank you very much for your input. It will be taken into account when we make our decision," and then make whatever decision the University thinks is best. If the players "revolt" then Indiana reminds them that they either play for IU or they can sit out a year after transferring.

--Jason "only minutes until we know how this all turns out" Evans

[socaldukie]

for the rest of the season. With a pink slip awaiting him at the end.


http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebas...story/10661089

[billybreen]

for the rest of the season. With a pink slip awaiting him at the end.


http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebas...story/10661089

What's the rationale for not firing him now? Does it placate the players to some extent, or would that even have entered the equation?

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

What's the rationale for not firing him now? Does it placate the players to some extent, or would that even have entered the equation?

A suspension makes sense since this situation is one involving allegations. The university and the NCAA need to do thorough investigations during the suspension. While a decision to fire Sampson is likely, it's more appropriate to fire after an investigation which demonstrates wrongdoing sufficient to merit firing.

[wtsnap]

What's the rationale for not firing him now? Does it placate the players to some extent, or would that even have entered the equation?

It might help the university if Sampson filed a lawsuit against them ala Jim O`Brien at OSU.

[billybreen]

A suspension makes sense since this situation is one involving allegations. The university and the NCAA need to do thorough investigations during the suspension. While a decision to fire Sampson is likely, it's more appropriate to fire after an investigation which demonstrates wrongdoing sufficient to merit firing.

Makes sense, as does wtsnap's point. Probably better safe than sorry, and they've just completed another litigious separation with a coach (one RMK).

[TwoDukeTattoos]

for the rest of the season. With a pink slip awaiting him at the end.


http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebas...story/10661089

He just screwed himself out of a career. Great to see Capel kicking butt with OU now!

[Shammrog]

What's the rationale for not firing him now? Does it placate the players to some extent, or would that even have entered the equation?

As I understand it, it is in his contract that he be suspended and have 10 days to appeal before being dismissed for NCAA violations. I think IU is trying as best it can to avoid having to pay the $2.5M due on the contract (though - while Sampson deserves to get the boot - IU may well still be in a precarious position by not letting the NCAA process go through in 90 days before it takes action.)

[Classof06]

It might help the university if Sampson filed a lawsuit against them ala Jim O`Brien at OSU.

Sampson's not in position to sue them. This is why Indiana took a week to look into their options. O'Brien sued OSU and won because OSU fired him before the NCAA hearing. IU will suspend Sampson until the hearing then fire him to avoid any lawsuit. It's basically a technicality.

[FireOgilvie]

He's officially gone. 750k paid as a settlement as long as he doesn't sue. Dakich is the coach immediately.

[dukie8]

He's officially gone. 750k paid as a settlement as long as he doesn't sue. Dakich is the coach immediately.

how could indiana have signed a contract with him that didn't give them a clear out if any sampson committed any ncaa violations? katz is reporting that 550K of the 750K came from an anonymous donor. indiana shouldn't have paid him a cent. also, the ncaa better not go light with indiana because they issued a preemptory firing. if violations were committed in getting gordon, then the school should suffer some severe penalties.

[-bdbd]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...-recruit_N.htm

Apparently a very highly recruited (top-10, class of 08) PF from NYC, Devin Ebanks, who'd signed with IU is now reconsidering.

Hmmmm...

Anybody know of any great college baketball programs that might be interested in a top-10 PF recruit for the 08 HS class??

Seriously, what are the rules of the road in terms of engaging with a recruit who had previously committed/signed with another program, but then decommits due to coaching change/scandal, etc.? Would love to see another "big" in Royal Blue next Fall... Was he ever on Duke's radar?

Thoughts?

-BDBD

[BD80]

Since the sides reached agreement, you wonder how much of the blame for the infractions Sampson has agreed to take, thus tending to absolve IU of the "lack of institutional control" issue.

Ray McCallum has been promoted to assistant head coach, but has been the lead recruiting assistant. How much was he involved in the phone calls?

How much input into the next coaching search does $550,000 buy one at IU?

[Johnny B]

I'm not going to defend Sampson's actions, however, I need some clarification. Are the NCAA infractions proven or alleged? Is the investigation completely concluded with all parties having the opportunity for defense?

As Duke fans, we don't need reminded that due course should be followed prior to conclusions. This is not a criminal investigation and is an order of magnitude less than the LAX case, however, shouldn't similar principles apply? Of course, due process may have been followed and the allegations completely followed through to conclusions.

I don't have enough information. Anyone?

On another note, it's a sad day for IU and I hope they get their house in order soon.

[billybreen]

By the title of this thread, I thought you were going to defend him. I was curious to see how that was possible, and I agree it isn't.