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  1. #1
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    Agent Double Zero

    Gilbert Arenas is in trouble (contractually) for guns he ordered in 2006.

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/29/gilber...encers-felony/

    Arenas bought five custom Beretta pistols with five silencers in February of 2006
    Not to take this to PPB area, but what legitimate purpose does one have for FIVE pistols with SILENCERS? If the guns are for self-defense, why the silencers? So the police don't know you are in trouble? So you won't scare away the rest of the attackers?

    These are guns he didn't pick up, so these would have been in addition to the four handguns he took to the arena, plus whatever other guns he kept in his houses or cars.

    This idiot is a real loose canon, pun intended.

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    I agree about the silencers! The only people that need a silencer are snipers and assassins. Seriously! And why would someone need 5 of the same gun unless he was planning on giving matching guns to his gang? Weird.

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    In addition to the items already noted, I think it's hilarious that he paid for them and waited so long to pick them up that he racked up $70k in storage fees and interest!!!

    Perhaps he's been too busy studying for his ever-growing collections of degrees in "aerospace engineering" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    I agree about the silencers! The only people that need a silencer are snipers and assassins. Seriously! And why would someone need 5 of the same gun unless he was planning on giving matching guns to his gang? Weird.
    If he was planning on hunting with a Beretta the silencer would have come in handy. It's hard to hit a deer with a single shot from a handgun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    I agree about the silencers! The only people that need a silencer are snipers and assassins. Seriously! And why would someone need 5 of the same gun unless he was planning on giving matching guns to his gang? Weird.
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons and other ridiculous amounts of guns. I know hunters who have 2-3 rifles and 10 handguns just because they can and its cool. Its just dumb men flashing their cash and cred, whether its Gilbert or some redneck hunter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons and other ridiculous amounts of guns. I know hunters who have 2-3 rifles and 10 handguns just because they can and its cool. Its just dumb men flashing their cash and cred, whether its Gilbert or some redneck hunter.
    Why would you think legally collecting and enjoying guns is ridiculous? Hunting is a very popular in most areas of the country, and depending on the game being hunted different guns have different uses, so owning more than one gun is very practical to a hunter. I happen to enjoy target shooting and own a couple of different hand guns for that purpose because shooting different caliber guns poses different challenges and skills. I also carry a concealed weapon (completely legal). I found it necessary after being held up at gun point for drugs in my pharmacy by an idiot crack head that would have just as soon shot me as to look at me. BTW your use of the term redneck hunter is offensive, and honestly displays an alarmingly level of ignorance on your part.

    Comparing Gilbert Arenas to NRA members is just plan "stupid" to use your choice of words and very judgmental. Gun ownership in this country is legal, and a protected right under our constitution, if you care about such things as the constitution.

    Buying illegal guns, and carrying them into public places against the law is criminal and should be prosecuted as such whether by Gilbert Arenas or by Ted Nugget.

    If you cannot see the difference in the two, then I would suggest you have a problem.

    Besides, this is not the forum for anti-gun, anti-hunter activism. Please, take it somewhere else...

    OK Mods, I am ready for my spanking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnavy View Post
    Why would you think legally collecting and enjoying guns is ridiculous? Hunting is a very popular in most areas of the country, and depending on the game being hunted different guns have different uses, so owning more than one gun is very practical to a hunter. I happen to enjoy target shooting and own a couple of different hand guns for that purpose because shooting different caliber guns poses different challenges and skills. I also carry a concealed weapon (completely legal). I found it necessary after being held up at gun point for drugs in my pharmacy by an idiot crack head that would have just as soon shot me as to look at me. BTW your use of the term redneck hunter is offensive, and honestly displays an alarmingly level of ignorance on your part. ...
    We should be clear, you aren't defending Arenas' purchase of 5 identical handguns with silencers. Correct?

    I raised the issue because Arenas' actions seemed to transcend the debate. To me the purchase demonstrated just how far removed Arenas is from my perception of normalcy.

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    silencers are excellent for home defense....if you miss without one, the perp knows what's up....if you've got your Glock silenced, they just think the dog farted or whatever and you can squeeze off a couple more rounds...


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    ok...total sarcasm in case the internet sucked all the joy of this post out

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons and other ridiculous amounts of guns. I know hunters who have 2-3 rifles and 10 handguns just because they can and its cool. Its just dumb men flashing their cash and cred, whether its Gilbert or some redneck hunter.
    This is, to put it mildly, offensive. I would point you at an excellent quote:

    "It's better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are fool, than to open it and remove all doubt."
    - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt View Post
    This is, to put it mildly, offensive.
    Yeah, cuz you really need those automatic weapons to hunt deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons and other ridiculous amounts of guns. I know hunters who have 2-3 rifles and 10 handguns just because they can and its cool. Its just dumb men flashing their cash and cred, whether its Gilbert or some redneck hunter.
    Just who the heck do you think you are? Redneck Hunters? You obviously know nothing about hunting, or guns...your name is AlaskanBear...have you ever been to Alaska?

    There are ignorant people on both sides of the gun debate, you exemplify anti-gun idiots out there. Automatic weapons are illegal...try knowing something before you comment.

    On the silencers, yeah, I have no idea unless he has an indoor shooting range.

    CLT Devil, Redneck Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnavy View Post

    Buying illegal guns, and carrying them into public places against the law is criminal and should be prosecuted as such whether by Gilbert Arenas or by Ted Nugget.

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    Agreed--but in fairness to poor old Gilbert, I don't think he ever purchased illegal guns. The guns became illegal when he took them out of the state in which they were legally registered to a jurisdiction in which they were not registered. (This was also what happened on his first gun offense, when, I think, he took guns registered in Arizona into California.) Despite the prosecution's efforts to make Arenas look like some sort of classic thug gang leader eager to shoot it out with anyone who fails to acknowledge him as the alpha dog, there's no actual evidence that that is the case. He collects guns, he's pretty far out of touch with reality, and he has displayed terrible judgment and irresponsibility, for which he has been appropriately punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    Well sure, its stupid...but its no different than the 1000s of NRA members or gun collectors who order automatic weapons and other ridiculous amounts of guns. I know hunters who have 2-3 rifles and 10 handguns just because they can and its cool. Its just dumb men flashing their cash and cred, whether its Gilbert or some redneck hunter.
    I too am offended by this. As someone else pointed out earlier, automatic weapons are illegal, semi-automatic weapons are a completely different thing. Mr. Arenas is in no way to be compared to responsible gun owners in any way. Even if he did purchase them legally, his actions afterwords were far from legal.

    I personally rarely ever go hunting, however I own two rifles, a .20 gauge shot gun, a .357 revolver and two semi-automatic handguns one of which is currently in my right front pants pocket.

    Now maybe that makes you think I'm some kind of right wing, redneck, NRA supporter but you would be wrong. I voted for Mr. Obama, would be offended to be called a redneck and am not even a member of the NRA! How do you like that?

    I am a concealed carry permit holder because I want to be able to protect myself and my family if I had to. I have the revolver on my night stand for the same reason and the long guns each have a specific purpose when I do go hunting.

    Please don't go spouting off about something in which you obviously know nothing about.
    "The future ain't what it used to be."

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by CLT Devil View Post
    Just who the heck do you think you are? Redneck Hunters? You obviously know nothing about hunting, or guns...your name is AlaskanBear...have you ever been to Alaska?

    There are ignorant people on both sides of the gun debate, you exemplify anti-gun idiots out there. Automatic weapons are illegal...try knowing something before you comment.

    On the silencers, yeah, I have no idea unless he has an indoor shooting range.

    CLT Devil, Redneck Hunter
    First of all, my post was intentionally inflammatory, because there is a cultural double-standard about guns and gun ownership. A black man with guns is always viewed as inherently more dangerous than a white man with guns. The reason I used "redneck hunter" was because its an equivalent of "thug" mantra so often used against NBA players. Please note that this is not aimed at anyone on the board in particular.

    Yes, I have been hunting, I grew up in the summer on farms in central Illinois. My uncles are avid hunters. I AM NOT ANTI-GUN. I don't see what Gilbert did as very different from what thousands of other gun collectors do all the time...

    Right when this story broke, I remember a Braves player I think (or Marlins) coming out and saying that he had brought guns into the lockerroom before...nobody gives a damn. Thousands and thousands of automatic weapons and guns are bought WITHOUT regulation at gun shows every year, so this legal/illegal gun crap is directly undermined by the government.

    What Gilbert did was STUPID, sure, but does anyone actually think he intended to hurt anyone? Everyone around Gilbert seems to think it was just a terrible attempt at trying to be funny. He is being made an example of, and by the way, no one would care if this happened in a baseball locker room with white players. The media would have never even picked it up.

    There are thousands upon thousands of illegal guns in the US, and how gun laws are enforced depend on who you are and where you live. If you are black automatically your gun intentions are suspect. You all question why he needs five berettas with silencers...why does anyone need WWII machine guns, modern automatic rifles, etc etc which are also common in the gun community? How you know that those berettas aren't intended as gifts to other rich men with gun collections rather than "trying to arm his gang" like Yancem suggested?

    If society really wants to start caring about gun violence, they can start caring about gun shows that contribute to the distribution of guns for blatantly illegal activities...like the drug war in Mexico.

    But this isnt about that, its about Arenas and the demonization of him.

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    Wasn't his most recent trouble due to having gun(s?) in a building where they were banned and then, it was determined, that the gun(s?) was(were?) unlicensed. The felony was due to the unlicensed gun(s?).

    I would hope that anyone caught with an unlicensed gun, especially in a building where they are banned, would be brought up on charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUKIECB View Post
    I too am offended by this. As someone else pointed out earlier, automatic weapons are illegal, semi-automatic weapons are a completely different thing. Mr. Arenas is in no way to be compared to responsible gun owners in any way. Even if he did purchase them legally, his actions afterwords were far from legal.

    I personally rarely ever go hunting, however I own two rifles, a .20 gauge shot gun, a .357 revolver and two semi-automatic handguns one of which is currently in my right front pants pocket.

    Now maybe that makes you think I'm some kind of right wing, redneck, NRA supporter but you would be wrong. I voted for Mr. Obama, would be offended to be called a redneck and am not even a member of the NRA! How do you like that?

    I am a concealed carry permit holder because I want to be able to protect myself and my family if I had to. I have the revolver on my night stand for the same reason and the long guns each have a specific purpose when I do go hunting.

    Please don't go spouting off about something in which you obviously know nothing about.
    I am not attacking you. Its your right to carry whatever gun you want, but big-freakin-deal about semi-auto vs auto. One you just have to squeeze, the other you have to pull the trigger each time, but it automatically reloads and cocks itself.

    Why do you feel you have to carry around an automatic hand-gun all the time, are you doing something dangerous and illegal? Because thats what people assume when you are black and have a hand gun. You are a drug dealer or gang-banger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnavy View Post
    Besides, this is not the forum for anti-gun, anti-hunter activism.
    Well, yes. It's clearly the forum for talking about "giving matching guns to his gang."

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    Any chance everyone could just agree to ignore the gun comments and discuss the NBA player with all the silenced handguns?

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ash View Post
    Any chance everyone could just agree to ignore the gun comments and discuss the NBA player with all the silenced handguns?
    How can you talk about Arenas and his guns without talking about gun culture and US gun laws? Well, I will give it a shot.

    I wish people would stop assuming the worst of Gilbert. For all we know, those guns are meant as gifts to other gun collectors. I denounce the comments that assumes Gilbert is trying to arm a gang as offensive and racist. Have YOU seen Gilbert in a gang? Why should we assume anything other than Gilbert is a gun collector with poor knowledge of the interstate regulations? Otherwise, why wouldnt he buy them illegally off the black market and try to conceal them?

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    Gilbert is also a known gamer. I imagine this could also play into his desire for unnecessary guns and accessories. He did have a gold Desert Eagle for goodness sake (from COD Modern Warfare).

    I will say this none of his weapons are useful to maintain a well regulated militia.
    "Something in my vicinity is Carolina blue and this offends me." - HPR

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