Free Agency - Chris Duhon

[ForeverBlowingBubbles]

It looks like the Knicks have gone ahead and offered Duhon 6 million over a 2 year deal...

I could be wrong but I think its about the same he was making. He should argue that he should be given a boost given his added experience, consistent a/t ratio, and improved % from 3 point land.

Its the beginning of free agency so I suspect if he isn't extremely determined to play in New York that he will recieve quite a few more offers.

[Scarbo]

"ESPN Insider Chris Sheridan reports the New York Knicks and Chris Duhon are close to an agreement that would give the former blue devil 11.5 million over the next two seasons. Donnie Walsh met with Duhon today and it appears it won't be his last....."

[ForeverBlowingBubbles]

knew he was worth more...
thanks for the update...

It'll be great to see Duhon get some minutes again... a great opportunity

[BD80]

"ESPN Insider Chris Sheridan reports the New York Knicks and Chris Duhon are close to an agreement that would give the former blue devil 11.5 million over the next two seasons. Donnie Walsh met with Duhon today and it appears it won't be his last....."

WOW!! Good for Chris - it shows the Bulls were idiots and shows the value Chris really has.

That signing would DOUBLE the number of Knick players willing to play defense.

Chris would be the only Knick who knows how to pass

This pretty much confirms that Starbury is gone. Where does he land? Clips? Heat? Lakers? Celtics? TWolves?

He probably will get some team's full exemption - like Duhon.

[skitelz]

This pretty much confirms that Starbury is gone. Where does he land? Clips? Heat? Lakers? Celtics? TWolves?

OH MY GOD, PLEASE DONT LET HIM GO TO THE HEAT!!!!

[yancem]

OH MY GOD, PLEASE DONT LET HIM GO TO THE HEAT!!!!

I highly doubt that Riley would try to put Starbury in the backcourt with Wade. I really don't think they would coexist very well.

[Clipsfan]

I highly doubt that Riley would try to put Starbury in the backcourt with Wade. I really don't think they would coexist very well.

I don't see him and Kobe getting along all that much better, so Lakers are probably out.

[duke74]

"ESPN Insider Chris Sheridan reports the New York Knicks and Chris Duhon are close to an agreement that would give the former blue devil 11.5 million over the next two seasons. Donnie Walsh met with Duhon today and it appears it won't be his last....."

Tonight on a NY Cable show on SNY, Daily News Live, one of the "panelists" (Joe Beningo?) said that Chris did not get on with Paxson and was a "cancer" on the Bulls. The context was his questioning why a troubled team like the Knicks would want to sign him. Is there any truth to that statement? It seems harsh.

[skitelz]

duhon was a partier in chicago...but a cancer?

no...he might not have got on with paxton, but that would not dictate how he would get along with a different coach and a different gm/owner. for all that panelist knows, chris duhon could be the key ingredient for a title. its not like he is a "starbury" type player. marbury has been on numerous teams and left each and every one of them in shambles. duhon has been on one team and he hardly left them unable to win games.

[NYC Duke Fan]

WOW!! Good for Chris - it shows the Bulls were idiots and shows the value Chris really has.

That signing would DOUBLE the number of Knick players willing to play defense.

Chris would be the only Knick who knows how to pass

This pretty much confirms that Starbury is gone. Where does he land? Clips? Heat? Lakers? Celtics? TWolves?

He probably will get some team's full exemption - like Duhon.

Letting Marbury go would be stupid. Buying out his contract now would not help the Knicks inflated salary cap. He has only 1 year left and with this his walk year he will probably play better. No reason why he and Duhon couldn't share minutes. From what I have seen Chris play in the pros, he is not much of an outside offensive threat. He is a pass first guy who plays defense, something the Knicks sorely miss. With Marbury and Chris sharing the PG, the Knicks could then work out a trade for Randolph and Lee and hopefully get under the cap for 2010 when Lebron, Wade, Paul ( might have signed an extension tho), and Bosh become free agents.

[BD80]

Letting Marbury go would be stupid. Buying out his contract now would not help the Knicks inflated salary cap. He has only 1 year left and with this his walk year he will probably play better. No reason why he and Duhon couldn't share minutes. From what I have seen Chris play in the pros, he is not much of an outside offensive threat. He is a pass first guy who plays defense, something the Knicks sorely miss. With Marbury and Chris sharing the PG, the Knicks could then work out a trade for Randolph and Lee and hopefully get under the cap for 2010 when Lebron, Wade, Paul ( might have signed an extension tho), and Bosh become free agents.

The ESPN "trade machine" http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

shows the Knicks over the cap by $33.7 million. It also reports that Marbury is likely to be released if the Knicks aquire a point guard.

The Knicks are stuck with Zack Randolph ($13.3 million) and Jamal Crawford ($7.9 million) for 3 more years, and Eddie Curry (8.7 million) and Quentin Richardson ($8.1 million) for 2 more years. Shedding Starbury's $19 million will definitely help. Getting far enough under the cap to sign a big name free agent in 2010 will gut the team for the next 2 years. What incentive would that be for Bosh or Wade or LeBron to come? Paul won't be free that year.

Good luck trading Zack Randolph. Memphis and Minnesota may be the only franchises dumb enough to take his contract and attitude. Oh wait, the Bobcats may also be that dumb.

The big reason to get rid of Starbury now is to get rid of his attitude and start the D'Antoni era on the right foot.

[Trinity84]

Oh wait, the Bobcats may also be that dumb.

If Starbury had played at Carolina Jordan and Brown would sign him in a heart beat.

[Uncle Drew]

If Starbury had played at Carolina Jordan and Brown would sign him in a heart beat.

You're infering if Marbury had gone to UNC Jordan and brown would want him. I infered one of the reasons Shav got a contract with the 76ers was Billy King was the GM and I got read the riot act. I'd like to see Chris in NY, I honestly think his past first attitude could make the team better. (And let's face it, it couldn't make them worse!) Just keep him out of the clubs.

[duke74]

...Just keep him out of the clubs.

In NYC? Good luck. Change will have to come from within....

[VaDukie]

If Duhon had trouble with Chicago nightlife and if Scott Skiles couldn't keep him in line...

In all seriousness, I think it's a great opportunity for Duhon and D'Antoni has shown he's a pretty fair judge of talent. I wouldn't expect Duhon to blow up the way Nash did but I see no reason why with expanded minutes he couldn't be a 12-7 type player.

[millerecu]

Sad thing is if he goes to the Knicks I am going to have to root for a NY team and I just dont feel comfortable with that.

[NYC Duke Fan]

The ESPN "trade machine" http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

shows the Knicks over the cap by $33.7 million. It also reports that Marbury is likely to be released if the Knicks aquire a point guard.

The Knicks are stuck with Zack Randolph ($13.3 million) and Jamal Crawford ($7.9 million) for 3 more years, and Eddie Curry (8.7 million) and Quentin Richardson ($8.1 million) for 2 more years. Shedding Starbury's $19 million will definitely help. Getting far enough under the cap to sign a big name free agent in 2010 will gut the team for the next 2 years. What incentive would that be for Bosh or Wade or LeBron to come? Paul won't be free that year.

Good luck trading Zack Randolph. Memphis and Minnesota may be the only franchises dumb enough to take his contract and attitude. Oh wait, the Bobcats may also be that dumb.

The big reason to get rid of Starbury now is to get rid of his attitude and start the D'Antoni era on the right foot.

By releasing him you still take a salary cap hit without getting any benefit. OK , you get rid of his attitude but that is it. By the way, Duhon is meeting with Orlando today so his signing with the Knicks is not a done deal at all.

[duke74]

Sad thing is if he goes to the Knicks I am going to have to root for a NY team and I just dont feel comfortable with that.

My sympathies to you.

[yancem]

By releasing him you still take a salary cap hit without getting any benefit. OK , you get rid of his attitude but that is it. By the way, Duhon is meeting with Orlando today so his signing with the Knicks is not a done deal at all.

I'm not sure how much I like the idea of Duhon going to Orlando. We already have one former Dukie riding the pine I don't want another. He does have better size and defensive abilities than Nelson so it's possible he could steal some quality minutes but its also possible that he might have to reserve a seat next to JJ!

[BD80]

Letting Marbury go would be stupid. ... He has only 1 year left and with this his walk year he will probably play better.

By releasing him you still take a salary cap hit without getting any benefit. OK , you get rid of his attitude but that is it. ...

If I were D'Antoni I would have Starbury gone before camps start. His attitude can undermine everything a new coach is trying to build. The Suns fly down the court to fill lanes knowing that Nash will get them the ball if they get to the right spots fast enough. Why bother to hustle when you know Stephon will pound some air out of the ball before making his move.

In Starbury's mind, "playing better" means putting up bigger numbers. Losses can be blamed on not getting enough support from the rest of the team. This would be the absolute worst year to have Stephon on the team. He will whine about any diminishment of his playing time because that would cut into his stats and his bargaining power for the next contract. He has always been a "me first" player, a contract year would be unbearable.

Starbury is a loser that puts up big stats on a losing team, he and Randolph belong on the same team. I'd rather a winner that will put up modest stats and help the team win.