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  1. #1
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    Thoughts on next Duke asst coach

    Lots of folks like NateDog or C-well, what do y'all think? I wonder if GMan would come in to work with the bigs and Wojo works with the guards, food for thought. Who should be our next coach?

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    I might like someone from outside the Duke family--someone who's not afraid to tell Coach K that he's wrong once in a while. I think it must be hard for guys that are 30 years younger and played for Coach K to tell him that they disagree. I think we have enough guys that know the Duke culture and we could use a fresh prospective on our process. Young guys are good, but old guys are too. Most other schools have both on the bench. How about getting Dave Odom, Pat Kennedy, or Bobby Cremins? OK, OK, maybe not Cremins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edouble View Post
    I might like someone from outside the Duke family--someone who's not afraid to tell Coach K that he's wrong once in a while. I think it must be hard for guys that are 30 years younger and played for Coach K to tell him that they disagree. I think we have enough guys that know the Duke culture and we could use a fresh prospective on our process. Young guys are good, but old guys are too. Most other schools have both on the bench. How about getting Dave Odom, Pat Kennedy, or Bobby Cremins? OK, OK, maybe not Cremins.
    Relationships change over time, I think. While I can see Wojo and Collins choosing to pick their battles at times out of respect/deference (whatever you want to call it, fear maybe?), I have a feeling they aren't afraid to tell K when they disagree with him. I'm sure K knows that when his assistants disagree with him it's not to pick a fight, but because they sincerely believe its in the best interests of Duke basketball to make a certain decision or go in a certain direction.

    I actually prefer someone from in the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedevil View Post
    Relationships change over time, I think. While I can see Wojo and Collins choosing to pick their battles at times out of respect/deference (whatever you want to call it, fear maybe?), I have a feeling they aren't afraid to tell K when they disagree with him. I'm sure K knows that when his assistants disagree with him it's not to pick a fight, but because they sincerely believe its in the best interests of Duke basketball to make a certain decision or go in a certain direction.

    I actually prefer someone from in the family.
    It is also my impression (gut feel, I guess) that Coach K welcomes and encourages opposing views/ideas from his, and subsequent discussions. After all, one doesn't become a "guru" in business/management without some kind of philosophy as this. In that sense, I don't see a problem from "within the family". I also thought of the G-man... he seems like a really good guy... and definitely qualified... with his number hanging up there... in addition to his yearly work with TV where he sees all ACC teams a bunch...

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    Dave Odom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edouble View Post
    I might like someone from outside the Duke family--someone who's not afraid to tell Coach K that he's wrong once in a while. I think it must be hard for guys that are 30 years younger and played for Coach K to tell him that they disagree. I think we have enough guys that know the Duke culture and we could use a fresh prospective on our process. Young guys are good, but old guys are too. Most other schools have both on the bench. How about getting Dave Odom, Pat Kennedy, or Bobby Cremins? OK, OK, maybe not Cremins.
    Odom? But how would the Crazies deal with it after having serenaded him for years with one of my favorite "cheers": "Lit-tle Co-oach!"

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    Any chance someone with previous head coaching expeirence but also a former Duke player would come back as an assistant? Henderson or Banks?

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    Question

    We need a Big Man coach, a free throw specialist and a sports psychologist. As to the sports psychologist...with the Duke Med Center one of the best in the world, I've been mystified that there isn't anyone -- to my knowledge -- serving in that role. Am I just out of the loop? As to the free throw specialist, the few teams that have employed such have shown great strides in that area. As to a Big Man coach, part of it is perception. We haven't been able to attract great Big Men lately, and the ones we've had/have don't show the improvement and impact that they should.

    Y'all know I don't know anything, but... just an observation from a dummy.

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    Well I can see Nate stepping into the role. He was a 3 or 4 in college so that will help the bigs! And if anyone's seen Nate lately he's huge!!! So he can bang around with the likes of Single and Zoubek for sure!

    I agree that it needs to stay in the Duke family. Christian Laettner is in Durham maybe he has some free time! I'm not sure that Coach K's son-in-law is even in the mix for the posistion. that is quite a jump from being in charge of the team managers to being an assistant coach for the best in the country!

    I trust coach. He is going to do what he thinks needs to be done! Only time will tell!

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    What about Mike Jarvis? I believe he and Coach K are friends, so he might fit the bill for those seeking a peer relationship. I realize there were some problems at St Johns, but from what I recall it was mostly players behaving badly off-the-court. With coach K running a tight ship, I'm not too concerned about that happening. One thing I like is that he has experience in recruiting some guys who were flying just under the radar. He still managed to find a few nuggets along the way. Then again, there's NBA legend Yinka Dare.

    Quin Snyder, anyone?

    Oh, and I hear Nolan Richardson wants to get back to coaching in the NCAA.

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    Jarvis is an interesting name to throw out. He is smart, articulate, experienced, and he recruited and coached a bunch of big men at GWU. I met him a handful of times and was very impressed. He was friendly, open and was willing to discuss a variety of issues at length. I would take him back in a heartbeat. I also believe that he is a close friend of Coach K.

    I also like the idea of Nate.

    gw67

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    I'm with dukemomLA. It should be a big man coach. I don't care if it's someone who is outside the fold, but I strongly doubt it. K has built a pretty strong tradition of going with past players. I think Nate would be a fine choice. I can't see Jarvis, just because he has head coaching experience. That reverse path might be common in football, where they have a gazillion coaches, but the bball staff is pretty small. I know it does happen time to time, but much less often, and usually it involves guys who were HC's at small schools.

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    Mike D'Antoni

    Mike D'Antoni would be a great one year hire! Toronto really wants him (the Suns new management does not) but how do you fire a guy that is doing well with the team?

    This will give Mike a chance to scout internationally for Duke and for his next NBA team while he is working for Team USA. It would give us a heightened international credibility and even more credibility with high school players who want to run D'Antoni's offense. Talk about some great NBA training!

    Coach K and his staff would see how D'Antoni coaches college players in the system. D'Antoni would get a year or so to work with Coach K on coaching defense. Truly a symbiotic relationship!

    Working with Mike D'Antoni would improve the resumes of Collins and Wojo, and make them even more attractive for openings next year.

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    It's already in the family

    Quote Originally Posted by dukemomLA View Post
    We need a Big Man coach, a free throw specialist and a sports psychologist. As to the sports psychologist...with the Duke Med Center one of the best in the world, I've been mystified that there isn't anyone -- to my knowledge -- serving in that role. Am I just out of the loop? As to the free throw specialist, the few teams that have employed such have shown great strides in that area. As to a Big Man coach, part of it is perception. We haven't been able to attract great Big Men lately, and the ones we've had/have don't show the improvement and impact that they should.

    Y'all know I don't know anything, but... just an observation from a dummy.
    Coach K's daughter, Lindy, serves as their sports psychologist.

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    What are the odds a guy or two from the Duke assistants go with Dawkins to Standford?

    Dawkins would be best served if he picked up an assistant who has had some head coaching experience and maybe an ex-Dukie. I could see Collins going with him to be his third and may Nate his fourth.

    I would love it if Mike Jarvis came to be Coach Ks top assistant. As pointed out, I think he could recruit some bigs and is an outside guy. Thus, this might help with the issue that the coaches are too much Duke.

    D'Antoni's will stay in the pros, he'll get big bucks from someone there and I don't see him as a college coach. College coaches have to teach the game and pro coaches manage the game. D'Antoni is a manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukemomLA View Post
    Y'all know I don't know anything, but... just an observation from a dummy.
    If you think you don't know anything, why would you post your opinions anyway for all the world to see? I don't get it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Mike D'Antoni would be a great one year hire! Toronto really wants him (the Suns new management does not) but how do you fire a guy that is doing well with the team?

    This will give Mike a chance to scout internationally for Duke and for his next NBA team while he is working for Team USA. It would give us a heightened international credibility and even more credibility with high school players who want to run D'Antoni's offense. Talk about some great NBA training!

    Coach K and his staff would see how D'Antoni coaches college players in the system. D'Antoni would get a year or so to work with Coach K on coaching defense. Truly a symbiotic relationship!

    Working with Mike D'Antoni would improve the resumes of Collins and Wojo, and make them even more attractive for openings next year.
    Yeah, winning NBA coaches often move to college assistant jobs ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukeimac View Post
    D'Antoni's will stay in the pros, he'll get big bucks from someone there and I don't see him as a college coach. College coaches have to teach the game and pro coaches manage the game. D'Antoni is a manager.
    There is only one job in the NBA that fits Mike D'Antoni, the Toronto Raptors. The Raptors might fire Sam Mitchell if D'Antoni becomes available.

    D'Antoni's strength is the international game, where he coached for a while. His system would fit few other teams.

    His reputation for lack of defense will scare off some organizations. To an extent that reputation is unfair because I don't think anyone can get Steve Nash or Amare Stoudamire to play defense. When your point guard cannot stop penetration and your big man refuses to rotate to help, your team is going to struggle defensively.

    I don't think it likely D'Antoni would come to Duke (even understanding it would be a temporary job until a good NBA opportunity comes up), but there are worse ways to spend an off year. He already has a good relationship with Coach K.

    Does Cuban go for D'Antoni for the Mavs? Is D'Antoni desperate enough to go to the Knicks?

    D'Antoni is a coach and a teacher, he wouldn't be on the Team USA coaching staff otherwise. You don't become so successful overseas just being a manager. You don't install an entirely new offensive scheme in the NBA by merely managing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    Yeah, winning NBA coaches often move to college assistant jobs ...
    Yeah, college assistant jobs "often" open up at prestigious universities with a hall of fame coach who is also the Team USA coach who has also developed a relationship with the recently FIRED "winning" NBA coach. Does the "fired" negate the "winning" appellation? There are more than a few NBA coaches who have taken college coaching jobs less prestigious than assistant to Coach K.

    I did not say it was likely. It is worth discussing. I happen to think the situation at Duke would merit D'Antoni's consideration for a year while the right job opens up.

    Taking for granted that there is some basis for your condescending post, where is D'Antoni going to be next year?

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    Lighten up

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    If you think you don't know anything, why would you post your opinions anyway for all the world to see? I don't get it...
    She posts because she is just like the rest of us, we care. Opinions aren't knowledge. Some are simply more informed than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Yeah, college assistant jobs "often" open up at prestigious universities with a hall of fame coach who is also the Team USA coach who has also developed a relationship with the recently FIRED "winning" NBA coach. Does the "fired" negate the "winning" appellation? There are more than a few NBA coaches who have taken college coaching jobs less prestigious than assistant to Coach K.

    I did not say it was likely. It is worth discussing. I happen to think the situation at Duke would merit D'Antoni's consideration for a year while the right job opens up.

    Taking for granted that there is some basis for your condescending post, where is D'Antoni going to be next year?
    Are you really saying that you think there is a chance that D'Antoni would join Duke as an assistant coach? I thought the initial post was sort of tongue in cheek. There is 0% chance that he would take that job, so I don't really see why its worth discussing.
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