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  1. #21
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    but the unintended consequence was that more underclassmen/high-schoolers jumped to get the clock started to get into the second contract sooner. i will concede that it was to negate the power plays/hold outs for the rookie contracts. but now, the owners know what they have to pay so they can take potential for "later" rather than a known commodity that might can help right away.

    either way, i don't watch the nba anyway.
    Duke '96
    Cary, NC

  2. #22
    What about the baseball rule but w/ only a 2 year requirement?

  3. #23
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    According to the blog over on the N and O:
    " NCAA president Myles Brand and NBA commissioner David Stern are holding a press conference here on Monday and are expected to announce a change in the NBA's draft eligibility policy.

    Brand hinted Thursday the NCAA and NBA had worked out a deal to create a 20-year-old age limit, which would keep the best players in college for a minimum of two years."


    http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

  4. #24
    I hope it happens! Imagine getting to see the next Kobe, James or Garnett play college ball for 2 years.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by steven52682 View Post
    I personally would like to see the Baseball rule. Option to go pro out of high school, but you must wait three years if you attend college.

    This allows those who feel they are ready and want to go straight out of high school. At the same time, it prevents kids from going to college and making a mockery of the academic system (theoretically). If there is a three year requirement, the "student" part of student athlete can't be thrown to the wind. A kid would still have to take classes and make passing grades to remain eligible.

    I couldn't agreee with you more. I look at it from the stand-point, who becides the NBA is helped by the Beasley's of the worlds playing one year in college. Three years allows enough time for the player to develop while working towards a degree. One year is the kid using a scholarship and not going to class and playing basketball. Plus, Beasley, Mayo, Oden didn't even want to go to college. If they're ready out of high school, let them make the decision. Its their life. The current set-up can F up some programs.

  6. #26
    Baseball rule all the way.

  7. #27
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    Unless I completely misunderstand the way this works, Myles Brand and David Stern can't do anything without the approval of the NBA Players Association and the CBA isn't up for renewal until 2011.

    Comparing major league baseball and the NBA is like comparing apples and oranges. MLB doesn't draft players out of high school--even college in most cases--with the expectation that they will move directly into the majors. But MLB has a huge infrastructure in place to move 18-year-olds up the food chain. And it's very Darwinian. Most never make it.

    But they don't draft 18-year-olds, cut them in spring training, and leave them floundering. The NBA, by contrast, has nothing remotely comparable to the huge and battle-tested minor league universe. Under the why-don't-we-try-the-baseball-system, I see tons of overly ambitious prepsters declaring for the draft with no chance of making an NBA team and then drifting off the face of the planet.

    Plus, I would like to hear from a lawyer on this but I'm not sure this would hold up in court. MLB is immune from anti-trust legislation, the NBA is not. So, I can't see how any of this would work if it's not a by-product of the collective-bargaining process between the NBA and the NBA Players Association.

    The NBA cares about the NCAA only in the sense that they have a great feeder system that doesn't cost them a red cent. The NCAA gives the NBA what minor-league-baseball-gives MLB, only NBA teams don't have to support a half-dozen minor-league franchises. So, the NBA will only tweak the system so far and make no mistake, the NBA is the driving force in all this.

  8. #28

    Draft Rule

    If there is an agreement announced today, how will this effect players on the fence? With 10-12 freshman leaving this year and 0 next year, next years draft could be very weak. Tyler may move into the top 5-10 in next years draft with no freshman and only about a third of the sophmores qualifying. Also more freshman may make the jump this year if they have to wait two more years before entering the draft.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCGroup View Post
    According to the blog over on the N and O:
    " NCAA president Myles Brand and NBA commissioner David Stern are holding a press conference here on Monday and are expected to announce a change in the NBA's draft eligibility policy.

    Brand hinted Thursday the NCAA and NBA had worked out a deal to create a 20-year-old age limit, which would keep the best players in college for a minimum of two years."


    http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
    Depending on how the 20-year-old limit was set up, this would still allow a lot of college freshmen to declare for the draft. Lots of kids take an extra year of high school/prep school and often arrive in college at 19.

    For example, Kyle Singler was born on May 4, 1988. He will be 20 before this year's NBA draft.

    --Jason "this rule would keep Beasley in school another year and Derrick Rose too" Evans

  10. #30

    The NBA is looking out for the NBA

    The NBA only cares about the NBA. With the one and done rule college bball showcases the best players and also points out some duds so the NBA makes less draft mistakes. Of course the players who enter college intending to be one and done are in only a rare case "student athletes."

    The baseball rule with a two years might be the way to go. At least the players who intend to be two and done will have to achieve some academic standard to be eligible. Those with no intention of being a student can go directly to the NBA.

    The big problem for the NCAA is that they are helpless. The NBA can do what it wants. Maybe the NCAA should say that freshmen will not be eligible for varsity basketball unless the NBA adopts the baseball rule or some version of it.

    SoCal

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven52682 View Post
    I personally would like to see the Baseball rule. Option to go pro out of high school, but you must wait three years if you attend college.

    This allows those who feel they are ready and want to go straight out of high school. At the same time, it prevents kids from going to college and making a mockery of the academic system (theoretically). If there is a three year requirement, the "student" part of student athlete can't be thrown to the wind. A kid would still have to take classes and make passing grades to remain eligible.
    But how many kids go from HS to MLB? Most of them spend time in the minors before going up. They have a system to prepare the kids for the highest professional level.

    I prefer the NFL rule which is 3 years out of HS.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Unless I completely misunderstand the way this works, Myles Brand and David Stern can't do anything without the approval of the NBA Players Association and the CBA isn't up for renewal until 2011.
    Yeah, that's what I thought. Plus, I haven't seen the big news service report anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    But they don't draft 18-year-olds, cut them in spring training, and leave them floundering. The NBA, by contrast, has nothing remotely comparable to the huge and battle-tested minor league universe. Under the why-don't-we-try-the-baseball-system, I see tons of overly ambitious prepsters declaring for the draft with no chance of making an NBA team and then drifting off the face of the planet.
    Isn't that Darwin at work? The NDBL is not a mature farm system but it is a start. It will never be the feeder that college ball is though.

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