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    6 Duke Basketball Players Have NBA Potential

    Kyle Singler-1st Round
    Gerald Henderson-1st Round
    Taylor King-1st Round
    Nolan Smith-1st Round-2nd Round
    Demarcus Nelson-1st Round-2nd Round
    Lance Thomas-2nd Round

    This may be our most NBA talented team yet.

    I have reason to believe but I think Singler,King and Henderson each will have their numbers in the rafters at the end of their careers.

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    If Thomas has NBA potential, I have not seen it yet. I have no doubt that Scheyer will, at the very least, be getting a serious look by people in the league after 2 more years in the program.

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    If this team ends up having better NBA talent than '01, I will be surprised and impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    Kyle Singler-1st Round
    Gerald Henderson-1st Round
    Taylor King-1st Round
    Nolan Smith-1st Round-2nd Round
    Demarcus Nelson-1st Round-2nd Round
    Lance Thomas-2nd Round

    This may be our most NBA talented team yet.

    I have reason to believe but I think Singler,King and Henderson each will have their numbers in the rafters at the end of their careers.
    Wow, it seems like you are being a bit premature to me. Certainly, several Duke plays have a lot of potential and being drafted in the NBA is a possibility. But saying three players (including two freshman and one sophomore) will have the numbers retired is kind of ridiculous at this point. We need to give them time and having such high expectations can only lead to disappointment. The only time Duke retired 3 numbers who played with each other was for Hurley, Laettner, and Hill, right? If that's indicative of what's to come, I can't complain about 2 national championships, but expecting that right now is asking for too much, IMO.

    DeMarcus is a marginal pick right now - most places have him mid 2nd round to not drafted. LT right now would not be drafted. Taylor King certainly needs to improve if he wants to be a first rounder. Obviously, we all expect Kyle and G to get drafted when they choose to do so.

    These players are great and a lot of fun to watch - but let's give them some time and enjoy the season!

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    Rookie comes out FIRING

    This has a lot of moxie for a first time post, but it's just slightly far reaching.

    I agree on the following:

    Will be 1st round draft pick:
    Henderson, Singler (if he shows a serious offensive game once he is forced to shoulder less of the front court D and rebounding burden)

    1st/2nd round:
    Smith and King - really too early to tell for each but Nolan's got the talent and King is a complete freak the way he shoots at his size.

    Markie:
    His play this season, if it continues strong, will earn him a serious look. I don't see 1st round because teams are usually not ready to guarantee money to a guy his size that isn't a very very good shooter and ballhandler. But, he has NBA level athletic talent and size. He'll get a chance to make a team, but I don't think he's getting the guaranteed money.

    Lance:
    Looks like a long shot at this point, but we have to remember that he's only 1.5 years into his career. But think about what 6'9" guys in the NBA can do? Could he guard those guys? Maybe. Could he score like those guys? Not even close. Let's give him time.

    The rafters?
    We're WAY to early in the game for that, for any of these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    Kyle Singler-1st Round
    Gerald Henderson-1st Round
    Taylor King-1st Round
    Nolan Smith-1st Round-2nd Round
    Demarcus Nelson-1st Round-2nd Round
    Lance Thomas-2nd Round

    This may be our most NBA talented team yet.

    I have reason to believe but I think Singler,King and Henderson each will have their numbers in the rafters at the end of their careers.
    I love these players but I think you are experiencing a bout of "irrational exuberance" and/or are high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    Kyle Singler-1st Round
    Gerald Henderson-1st Round
    Taylor King-1st Round
    Nolan Smith-1st Round-2nd Round
    Demarcus Nelson-1st Round-2nd Round
    Lance Thomas-2nd Round

    This may be our most NBA talented team yet.

    I have reason to believe but I think Singler,King and Henderson each will have their numbers in the rafters at the end of their careers.
    w(here)tf is your source on this.

  8. I absolutely LOVE Taylor King. His 3's are what J.J. and K called "momentum shots." He has a great attitude, and is already playing better D, rebounding, better, etc. than I expected given what I read about him coming in. But I'm not sure he'll be a 1st round pick, and I'd be very pleasantly surprised (to say the least) if there's a serious discussion about retiring his jersey. I actually think Jon has a better shot at an NBA spot than several of the guys on your list.

    In terms of "best", I think 1999 and 2001 both had better "NBA talent." 1999 had #1 pick Brand as well as lottery guys Battier, Avery, Trajan, and Maggette. The entire starting 5 in 2001 is in the NBA except for JWill, who was arguably the best "NBA talent." Heck, 2004 had CDu, JJ, Shel, Shav, and Dan, as well as Dock, who was, imo, a more likely NBA candidate than Lance and Taylor at the same point in their respective careers.

    I love the enthusiasm, but let's not put such great expectations on these guys too soon. They're all wonderful college players working together exceptionally well right now. I'm really enjoying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Joe View Post
    If Thomas has NBA potential, I have not seen it yet. I have no doubt that Scheyer will, at the very least, be getting a serious look by people in the league after 2 more years in the program.
    Yeah Thomas has NBA potential because he is a good athlete but he just isnt the right fit for Duke because hes been playing out of position at the 4 and sometimes at the 5.

    Thomas is more of a poor man's Andre Igoudala,well from what I saw of him in his AAU and a few HS games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilCastDownfromDurham View Post
    I absolutely LOVE Taylor King. His 3's are what J.J. and K called "momentum shots." He has a great attitude, and is already playing better D, rebounding, better, etc. than I expected given what I read about him coming in. But I'm not sure he'll be a 1st round pick, and I'd be very pleasantly surprised (to say the least) if there's a serious discussion about retiring his jersey. I actually think Jon has a better shot at an NBA spot than several of the guys on your list.

    In terms of "best", I think 1999 and 2001 both had better "NBA talent." 1999 had #1 pick Brand as well as lottery guys Battier, Avery, Trajan, and Maggette. The entire starting 5 in 2001 is in the NBA except for JWill, who was arguably the best "NBA talent." Heck, 2004 had CDu, JJ, Shel, Shav, and Dan, as well as Dock, who was, imo, a more likely NBA candidate than Lance and Taylor at the same point in their respective careers.

    I love the enthusiasm, but let's not put such great expectations on these guys too soon. They're all wonderful college players working together exceptionally well right now. I'm really enjoying that.
    I know its too early but im going with the way they are currently playing now and the typical advancement they have as they become Juniors and eventual as Seniors.

    And im serious when I say this:

    King and Singler will each average 20 PPG during their Senior Season.

    Nolan Smith probably will become a very good player but with us getting Elliot Williams and possibly Lance Stephenson in 09' I doubt he gets the chance to become a True Starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    Yeah Thomas has NBA potential because he is a good athlete but he just isnt the right fit for Duke because hes been playing out of position at the 4 and sometimes at the 5.

    Thomas is more of a poor man's Andre Igoudala,well from what I saw of him in his AAU and a few HS games.
    watch an NBA game or two. If you do watch the NBA, try paying more attention. If you get a chance, look at Lance in person. He's about 6/7. Isn't an incredible athlete but has a great motor. The motor still gives him an incredibly poor rebounding rate for a person of his size playing on a team with so other few big men. He currently isn't in any sort of mention as an NBA prospect among NCAA Sophomores.
    In fact, Demarcus is a better interior rebounder and finisher then Lance, he's a senior, he's got a better shot, and he's on the 2nd round bubble.

    Lance is good, a great piece to have, but he will need to improve drastically over the next few seasons if he wants to have a chance at getting drafted. He needs to gain a lot of strength in his lower body, and of course anything he can in the upper.
    Last edited by jzp5079; 01-31-2008 at 12:16 PM. Reason: need to add a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedog View Post
    Wow, it seems like you are being a bit premature to me. Certainly, several Duke plays have a lot of potential and being drafted in the NBA is a possibility. But saying three players (including two freshman and one sophomore) will have the numbers retired is kind of ridiculous at this point. We need to give them time and having such high expectations can only lead to disappointment. The only time Duke retired 3 numbers who played with each other was for Hurley, Laettner, and Hill, right? If that's indicative of what's to come, I can't complain about 2 national championships, but expecting that right now is asking for too much, IMO.

    DeMarcus is a marginal pick right now - most places have him mid 2nd round to not drafted. LT right now would not be drafted. Taylor King certainly needs to improve if he wants to be a first rounder. Obviously, we all expect Kyle and G to get drafted when they choose to do so.

    These players are great and a lot of fun to watch - but let's give them some time and enjoy the season!
    We're going to win the National Championship this year.

    I really believe we will....its just one of those gut feelings that you get from watching a good team like this play

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    King and Singler will each average 20 PPG during their Senior Season.
    Hope you're right. Heck, I hope Kyle HAS a senior season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzp5079 View Post
    watch an NBA game or two. If you do watch the NBA, try paying more attention. If you get a chance, look at Lance in person. He's about 6/7. Isn't an incredible athlete but has a great motor. The motor still gives him an incredibly poor rebounding rate for a person of his size playing on a team with so other few big men. He currently isn't in any sort of mention as an NBA prospect among NCAA Sophomores.
    In fact, Demarcus is a better interior rebounder and finisher then Lance, he's a senior, he's got a better shot, and he's on the 2nd round bubble.

    Lance is good, a great piece to have, but he will need to improve drastically over the next few seasons if he has a chance at getting drafted.
    Thats why I said he doesnt fit how we play at Duke,He should have gone to Rutgers where he could have developed more as "Star Player" and it would have been able to hide his weaknesses.

    He is a good athlete,and he is pretty strong but he isnt the inside presence we want him to be because he is playing out of position and he doesnt have the footwork to play with his back to the basket.

    Hes more of a face up off the dribble type of guys whos wiry and can get the basket or shoot a 15 footer with consistency,thats why I compared him to a poor man's Andre Igoudala

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilCastDownfromDurham View Post
    Hope you're right. Heck, I hope Kyle HAS a senior season.
    Kyle will.

    He needs 4 years because he doesnt have the NBA athleticism to be a lottery pick after 1 or 2 years even.

    As he develops his ability to play with his back to the basket and maybe gains about 15 lbs of muscle he should be a Top 10 pick after his senior year.

    If McRoberts hadnt screwed up and ruined his life by leaving early we could have played Singler a little more on the wing like Grant Hill and Mike Dunleavy.

    Thank god he cut his floppy hair because the comparisons to Larry Bird would have hurt him in the long run,just ask Adam Morrison.

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    4th post.

    Hmm. Possibly a parody post, more likely a way-over-the-top post.

    Henderson and Singler are future lottery picks. I would be pleasantly surprised to see Singler at Duke as a senior.

    Nelson-second round pick. Chance to stick.

    Smith, if he becomes a pure point.

    King-outside chance to stick as a specialist. Chance of having his number retired? We're supposing a better college career than those of Verga, Spanarkel, Banks, and Alarie? I'd be stunned to see this happen. He's a freshman but I think the O.P. is projecting am awful lot of improvement.

    Thomas-would need to improve his ball skills a lot. An awful lot. Tony Lang and Brian Davis didn't look like NBA players as sophs. Still, a longshot.

    Zoubek-You can't teach height. NBA scouts will always look at size and guys like Zoubs sometimes develop later, e.g. Aaron Gray. We just can't project right now.

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    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Franzez View Post
    Kyle will.

    He needs 4 years because he doesnt have the NBA athleticism to be a lottery pick after 1 or 2 years even.

    As he develops his ability to play with his back to the basket and maybe gains about 15 lbs of muscle he should be a Top 10 pick after his senior year.

    If McRoberts hadnt screwed up and ruined his life by leaving early we could have played Singler a little more on the wing like Grant Hill and Mike Dunleavy.

    Thank god he cut his floppy hair because the comparisons to Larry Bird would have hurt him in the long run,just ask Adam Morrison.
    How do you know that McRoberts ruined his life? Have you talked to him?

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    Irrational Exuberance

    Quote Originally Posted by 77devil View Post
    I love these players but I think you are experiencing a bout of "irrational exuberance" and/or are high.
    Here is some "Irrational Exuberance." Man this takes me back a few years. This and "All your base are belong to us," the early days of Flash.

    http://www.superjer.com/exuberance.php

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    your not really even close. Unless your just drastically overusing the word "poor"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfTeZ4r3Srw
    Meet Andre. where are the similarities?


    Right now he is in no position to guard any PF in the NBA. Most all SF would have their way with him to. A lot of bigger shooting guards would blow by him as well. And his offense still needs a lot of work. No offense to Lance, you just have to be a straight baller if you want to make it to the NBA.

    We will see how he develops - he still has 2 chances for a breakout season. 2 summers to get big in the weight room. He could end up making it as long as he keeps working and never takes no for an answer.

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    crazy post. maybe henderson and singler go in 1st round, maybe. nelson's great but probably more of a 2nd round guy, and maybe late 2nd round at that. the other 3 haven't shown nba worthiness yet, unless we're using a really loose definition of "potential" here. smith would have to get the edge though, since he's had nba "flashes" from time to time.

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