Yesterday, two of the better football teams in the country shredded their opponents on national tv (well, one of the games was on Fox, but still...).
Keep in mind that these two teams (USC and Georgia) are the two teams screaming the most that they're the team "left out" of the national championship game (even though Georgia didn't even qualify for their conference championship GAME) -- and I looked forward to seeing them play yesterday.
Well, both of them did their schools, their teams and their coaches a disservice. Taunting, personal fouls, and pretty much boorish behavior from the teams and the fans prove that both of these teams are squarely where they belong -- outside the national championship game.
For Georgia, in particular, this was the second game (out of three that I saw them play this year) that the team acted completely classless.
Now, I am a big fan of both Mark Richt and Pete Carroll, but both of them showed a little too much encouragement for their teams' actions. I hope they look at these debacles of on-field team behavior and take action.
So here's to you Number 3 and number 4!!!!
You guys showed us that you really deserve the title of "Number TWO!"
To what are you referring? I watched both games and didn't see anything particularly boorish.
I saw USC flip into the endzone I think, and I saw UGA celebrate after sacking the QB, but I did not see anything that was beyond the scope of a normal big time matchup.
I am glad Mark Richt found a way to get UGA energized . . . it would have been possible for them to suffer a let down because they were in a matchup with Haw rather than a bowl they might have felt they deserved to be in (i.e. UMich last year).
In fact, I was listening to the Heard this morning, and he LOVES USC, and he said that some of the things USC did were unnecessary, but he didnt mention UGA once.
Dive over the goal line (or flip into the end zone)? Ejection
Helmet to helmet tackle AFTER the whistle? Ejection
Unnecessary roughness in a blowout? The coach gets ejected
Again, I like the coaches, but Richt has shown a propensity this year to whip his guys into a froth and then just let them go uncontrolled -- and you saw that in late hits yesterday (and the team end zone celebtrations in Jacksonville earlier this year).
The announcers STARTED to call him on it, although over a less meaningful situation. They were mad at the pass on the 4th and goal play. Worse than that was the continued blitzing and late hits georgia kept putting on their opponent (even though not all of them were called).
I think both coaches got their teams to play with big chips on their shoulders yesterday -- and, really, for no reason at all. Given the system, their games were COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS!!!!! There is no 3rd place trophy, and the "starting poll position" had nothing to do with either team NOT being in the championship game. Georgia didn't qualify for their conference title game, and USC lost to two terrible teams, including the last game of the season
Starting position may not have mattered in this particular matchup, but it is very important (see Auburn a few years back). Both UGA and USC have cemented a high starting position for next year (probably top 5 for both teams).
This is big time college football. This is just about as large a stage as there is - it isnt high school football. If you can show me anywhere that UGA has been accused of playing dirty I'd be interested to see it. I have never heard that accusation levied against Mark Richt. Late hits result from playing hard. Sometimes a 250 lb Linebacker cant quite stop his momentum. As for the touchdown celebration in Jacksonville - you clearly have no knowledge of the history b/w UGA and UF. UGA was trying to break a tradition of losing, and if gettin the entire team involved is what was necessary so be it. They took teh penalties and got pushed back - but the team was motivated and fired up and ended up winning that game too.
In the unlikely, but possible, event that one of those 4 schools do win the AP, the AP national championship, although not the BCS, will be recognized by those schools, banners will be hung, heck, maybe even rings will be distributed. So it goes beyond proving the BCS wrong --- these teams still have an ever so slight chance of pulling out a national championship, and their only way to get there is to pound, and I mean POUND, their BCS opponent. Illinois and Hawaii were lambs to the slaughter.
Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
09/01/07 vs. Idaho L.A. Coliseum W, 38-10
09/15/07 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb W, 49-31
09/22/07 vs. Washington State * L.A. Coliseum W, 47-14
09/29/07 at Washington * Seattle, WA W, 27-24
10/06/07 vs. Stanford * L.A. Coliseum L, 24-23
10/13/07 vs. Arizona * L.A. Coliseum W, 20-13
10/20/07 at Notre Dame South Bend, IN W, 38-0
10/27/07 at Oregon * Eugene, OR L, 24-17
11/03/07 vs. Oregon State * L.A. Coliseum W, 24-3
11/10/07 at Cal * Berkeley, CA W, 24-17
11/22/07 at Arizona State * Tempe, AZ W, 44-24
12/01/07 vs. UCLA * L.A. Coliseum W, 24-7
01/01/08 vs. Illinois Rose Bowl W, 49-17
Including the last game of the season?? UCLA in 2006 was another matter completely, but they beat UCLA this season. Stanford, OK, I agree, but Oregon terrible? I wouldn't go that far (ask South Florida).
You've got to be kidding me? I thought the UGA/Hawaii game was played with a high amount of sportsmanship and that both teams respected each other. There were numerous shots in the game where the guys would help each other up or talk during stoppages of play and seemed like they liked each other.
If there's anyone on the field who was acting in a classless way, it was a player for Hawaii. Number 29, Keenan Jones, had no business being on the field the way he played last night. When covering a punt, he led with his helmet and knocked out Mikey Henderson, before Henderson even had a chance to catch the ball! Then, he got up and celebrated the hit like he'd actually done something good. The idiot should have been ejected for that play. I believe he was called for penalties the next two times he was on the field. All this from a special teams player who had basically no impact on the game.
I think that people have adopted a feeling that UGA is classless because of one play this year and they've held it against them all season. You think they're classless now, or you thought the play against Florida was classless and now that has distorted your opinion of them for the remainder of the year? Anyone who normally follows Georgia football would say that there are a lot of times when our players and coaches play without any emotion and look too uptight.
And the whole issue about UGA not even making their conference championship game is getting old. It's not like LSU went undefeated in the SEC and beat every team by 50 points while doing it. LSU lost two conference games, the same as UGA, it just so happens that the Tigers lost to a team who wasn't as competitive in their division so it didn't hurt them. You don't think Georgia deserves a chance in the title game, fine...but don't act like it's such a stretch for them to think they should have a shot.
Man, I wish UGa and USC had played in the Rose.
Poor sportsmanship was everywhere to be seen on TV yesterday, especially Hawaii's #29. But not exclusively. Go ahead, say it's football. Fine. But there is a better way, and I'd like to see less of what there is and more of what it could be. As far as I'm concerned, the hot-dogging, taunting, smack-talking, etc., belongs in the realm of pro wrestling. You don't need it to play well, or even play at your best.
The rest of this thread is about the ridiculous championship procedures in the Bowl Championship Subdivision of the NCAA Division I. There are 32 bowl games this time around. That means that 64 teams will play in post season bowl games, and we still will argue who the real national champion is. In a tournament, it's one and done. In the BCS system, it's one and both done. Only in that NCAA subdivision is it decided who plays in the championship game by media people and computer programmers. Every other other sport, professional, college, or high school, has some sort of rational playoff system (except maybe for golf and NASCAR).
The powers that be keep throwing up road blocks that preserve the present system. I haven't heard any one give a valid reason for saving it. Sorry for the rant, but in the heat of this thread's discussion, I thought it was appropriate. I haven't seen a thread on the topic of football playoffs, recently, so I just brought it up. Maybe I should have started a thread. Maybe I will, later.