Ole Roy quote

[Duke79UNLV77]

“First time in the history of college basketball a guy got a concussion with no foul called. That better be all I say.”

i happened to see the play. first, i thought it should have been called a blocking foul on hansblabla. in any event, the concussion was called when he fell backwards and hit his head against the basket support. it's not like he took an elbow. he tried to take a charge, their feet got tangled, and he fell.

continuing their style from last year, unc took 3 quick shots in the last 10 seconds, despite having a 20+ point lead. are they allergic to dribbling out the clock?

by the way, does anyone know the record for career free throw attempts? i have to think that hansblabla is on pace to challenge it.

[Devilsfan]

have worked their butts off to be on the team. This is one of their few chances to play. One of them was playing in front of many members of his family that happen to live in N.J. and don't get to see him that much let alone play for the #1 ranked team in the country. It's not like Lawson took the shots.
As far as Hanstravel is concerned, he initiates most of the contact. This time he was on the receiving end. It's unfortunate that he got hurt but he's a big boy and dishes it out without much consequence most of the time.

[uncwdevil]

did he want them to call a foul on the camera dude? i can only assume that he didn't realize that the camera guy's knee caused the concussion, or maybe he just felt like whining

[gw67]

I don't want to see any player hurt but that is the chance you take when you try to take a charge close to the basket. With regard to Hansbrough's play, I would take him on my team anytime. His all out effort reminds me of a young Moses Malone. Even on an off night, he got a double-double.

From ESPN records, Hansbrough has shot 658 free throws in 78 games or 8.44 foul shots per game. I went to Charlie Board to check career records for ACC players. A couple of players jumped out at me. Len Chappell, a center for Wake in the early 60's shot 897 free throws in 87 games or 10.31 free throws per game. However, the ACC player who shot more free throws per game based on my sample was a Dukie, Art Heyman. Artie shot 853 free throws in 79 games or 10.80 free throws per game in an era when there was no shot clock. Hansbrough will have to pick up the pace to come close to Heyman.

gw67

[arnie]

Ole Roy also stated that he likes playing his OOC games on an opponents "true" home floor - not at the Meadowlands or some other more neutral court. He emphasized this in the interview I saw. Another obvious dig at his rival.

[Duvall]

Ole Roy also stated that he likes playing his OOC games on an opponents "true" home floor - not at the Meadowlands or some other more neutral court. He emphasized this in the interview I saw. Another obvious dig at his rival.

If he wants more credit, he shouldn't schedule those road games against patsies like Rutgers, Penn and Kentucky.

[sandinmyshoes]

While I'm sure that Roy Williams thought it should have been a charging foul, he did not actually say that. I think he was getting in a dig at the way the game was called, and he probably had a good point. It appeared to be a very physical contest. While I, and most on this board, are biased and thought it should have been a blocking foul, Williams has a legitimate point in that something should have been called. The contact was real and hard, it should have been a foul on somebody.

Also, even if Hansbrough was guilty of the foul, it was the contact that caused his injury, and Williams' point about how can there be that much contact without a foul remains a good one.

There was a lot of contact on both ends of the floor. I do not like the refs calling ticky-tack fouls and making the game a farce, but if they let things edge toward brutal then players end up getting hurt or losing their tempers with fights resulting.

[dukeENG2003]

have worked their butts off to be on the team. This is one of their few chances to play. One of them was playing in front of many members of his family that happen to live in N.J. and don't get to see him that much let alone play for the #1 ranked team in the country. It's not like Lawson took the shots.
As far as Hanstravel is concerned, he initiates most of the contact. This time he was on the receiving end. It's unfortunate that he got hurt but he's a big boy and dishes it out without much consequence most of the time.

I don't see Jordan Davidson launching unnecessary shots at the end of the games? They should be excited to just get on the floor and wear the jersey. What should be more important, showing good sportsmanship, or wanting to get your scrubs in the stat book? Just a difference in philosophy between Duke and UNC I guess.

[mpj96]

If he wants more credit, he shouldn't schedule those road games against patsies like Rutgers, Penn and Kentucky.

I don't think the word patsy really applies to Kentucky. That said, you don't need to move to a larger venue when Rupp arena holds 23k +.

As for Penn and Rutgers, it probably didn't hurt his squad to play at their house and I'd bet it is pretty exciting for the students at those schools (if they follow basketball) to get to see a #1 team play on their campus.

[Duvall]

I don't think the word patsy really applies to Kentucky. That said, you don't need to move to a larger venue when Rupp arena holds 23k +.

As for Penn and Rutgers, it probably didn't hurt his squad to play at their house and I'd bet it is pretty exciting for the students at those schools (if they follow basketball) to get to see a #1 team play on their campus.

Kentucky is very much a patsy this year.

I don't see how it helps his team prepare for the NCAA tournament to play teams that won't be good enough to be in the NCAA tournament. And Rutgers and Kentucky fans have plenty of opportunities to see their team lose to good teams. Either way, Roy is still trying to get credit for his team for an accomplishment that wasn't much of an accomplishment.

[Indoor66]

Kentucky is very much a patsy this year.

I don't see how it helps his team prepare for the NCAA tournament to play teams that won't be good enough to be in the NCAA tournament. And Rutgers and Kentucky fans have plenty of opportunities to see their team lose to good teams. Either way, Roy is still trying to get credit for his team for an accomplishment that wasn't much of an accomplishment.

It's all part of that "Carolina Class" we hear so much about.

[freedevil]

Having your fully loaded team play games at Penn and Rutgers and thinking you've really created a challenge is like LSU's football team scheduling road games at Duke and Carolina. I don't care how loud the team's "true home venue" is or recognizable the university's name is, you're going to win. At least for the next few years.

['84 and counting]

The replay of the Hansbrough injury suggests to me that Coach Williams needs to work on teaching his players how to effectively take a charge. I watched the slow motion replay on ESPN, and it seems that the Rutger's player was actually pushing off with his left foot to move laterally, left to right, at the time the contact occurred. The Rutger's player's momentum was as much sideways as forward at the point of contact. Hansbrough was too upright as he drew "contact" and propelled himself backwards, into the basket support or the camera man's knee (it wasn't clear what Hansbrough hit). If Hansbrough had been in a lower stance at the time of contact, he would have simply rolled onto his back, and far out of harm's way. Too many players utilize a rigid and upright "statue" posture when taking a charge and invite potentially harmful contact. I am not suggesting that Hansbrough "flopped". He did not; however, his charge taking stance was poor.

Perhaps there should have been a call given the appearance of hard contact, but any such call could just as easily have gone against Hansbrough.

While I am a true blue Duke guy, I have to say that I love Hansbrough's style of play. He may be the hardest working player in the country. I love his work ethic. He never takes a play off. He also has an excellent "mistake/response" habit. Whenever Hansbrough makes a mistake, he immediately hustles his ^$%^$%^$% off to make up for it to be "in" the ensuing play. That characteristic makes him an amazingly valuable player.

His physical style of play (initiating contact, hitting the floor on every loose ball, aggressively seeking a body to block out on rebounds, going to the hoop with authority) makes him a great player, but also makes him vunerable to violent injuries. I, for one, hope that the hoops gods are with him and that he stays healthy. He is so fun to watch.

[slower]

While I'm sure that Roy Williams thought it should have been a charging foul, he did not actually say that. I think he was getting in a dig at the way the game was called, and he probably had a good point. It appeared to be a very physical contest. While I, and most on this board, are biased and thought it should have been a blocking foul, Williams has a legitimate point in that something should have been called. The contact was real and hard, it should have been a foul on somebody.

Also, even if Hansbrough was guilty of the foul, it was the contact that caused his injury, and Williams' point about how can there be that much contact without a foul remains a good one.

There was a lot of contact on both ends of the floor. I do not like the refs calling ticky-tack fouls and making the game a farce, but if they let things edge toward brutal then players end up getting hurt or losing their tempers with fights resulting.

The CONTACT that directly caused the injury was NOT with the other player, but with the photographer and the basket support.

[sandinmyshoes]

The CONTACT that directly caused the injury was NOT with the other player, but with the photographer and the basket support.

True, but, of course it's not like that basket support and the photographer leaped up to assault him. He hit them because of the contact, which was substantial and not a flop. This is the case be it his foul or that of the player driving to the basket. There should have been a call one way or the other.

[Devilsfan]

I read your thread and are you implying that a Duke player entering the game late is a SCRUB? Anybody good enough to be on a squad must be able to play. They practice hard and make the team better.

[slower]

True, but, of course it's not like that basket support and the photographer leaped up to assault him. He hit them because of the contact, which was substantial and not a flop. This is the case be it his foul or that of the player driving to the basket. There should have been a call one way or the other.

agreed

[slower]

I was focusing on the wrong part of his post - sorry

[captmojo]

Can it be possible that an impact such as what he experienced, actually have slapped the "Psycho" out of his name?

[vb5678]

Does anyone remember when we played at Carolina in Feb of 2004? I thought in that game Luol Deng was knocked unconscious at one point with no call either. Maybe Roy just has a selective memory.