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  1. #1
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    Teams We Want In Our Bracket

    To a degree the tournament is always about good matchups. Last year, Florida really got a good break with the teams they played in that many did not match up to their style (Georgetown, Villanova, LSU). Of course UCLA did, and they blew them out of the gym - but that had a lot to do with how UCLA played that night.

    So this year - who do I want to see us against?

    Please, please, please Wisconsin. A slow it down type of defense with no dominant point guard is a dream for us.

    Others I think we match up with really well include Georgetown, Air Force, USC, Pittsburgh, BYU, Vanderbilt and Butler.

    Teams I don't want any part of, are either quick and deep (like Florida and UCLA) or dominant at the guard position (like Texas A&M and Marquette). The one mid-major I want no part of is Southern Illinois. They are legit.

    Worst case would be the #3 seed with Marquette as our #6, Texas A&M as our #2 and Florida as the #1, Or the #5 with S. Illinois as our #4, and Florida as our #1. That would be trouble.

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    Even though they played like dog meat last night, I really don't want to see Kansas anywhere around our bracket at the moment.

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    Kansas

    You are correct Carlos - I want no part of them in the tourney. I should have included them. They could lose in the first round, or win the entire thing. They are deep and talented. Sort of like UNC (only a little worse) in that when they put their mind to it...they are damn hard to beat.

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    Wisconsin

    Without their starting center (leading rebounder, 3rd leading scorer), Wisconsin is going to be hurting. It will be interesting to see how they fare before the tournament starts. Their tournament seeding could drop.

    With or without Butch, I'd like to see them in our bracket.

    I wouldn't mind seeing any Big East team witht the exception of Georgetown.

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    This doesn't really answer your question, but I thought they stuffed the bracket against UConn last year also, not just us.

    My preferred strategy this year is, "be a three or six seed this year so that maybe someone else will beat the #1 first". As for Flawda, Vandy beat them, so why can't we?
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    Yeah, Georgetown is really clicking these days. Not the same team we saw in December, and those types of offenses usually do fairly well against Duke -- if executed properly. They ran into a quasi-desparate Syracuse team last night on the road.

    I'd love to get some overseeded Pac10 teams (other than UCLA) in our bracket. I'll really be rooting for the ACC to beat down the Pac10 this year. I imagine they'll be at least 2-3 matchups in the tourney, as many teams as both conferences are getting in.

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    i'm not sure how stuffed uconn's bracket was last year -- they got to play gm in the regional finals. that's not exactly a killer. wisconsin would be great with or without butch. other than tucker, they cannot score. our defense shuts down teams that CAN score. i want no part of winthrop. they are finally going to win their first round game this year. they are experienced and not afraid of anyone (ask unc). i also don't think that deep teams are that much a problem for us (at least not compared to last year). k has been giving steady minutes to the bench so i don't see a deep team wearing us down. it's the teams with very quick/athletic point guards that are going to cause the most problems. ucla, florida, marquette and ohio st come to mind (in addition to uva and va tech).

    even though gtown is playing much better now, i still think that we match up well with them. they DON'T have great guards. green and hibbert are very good but our stellar defense was very good at neutralizing them and i think that we can do that again.

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    Predicted Region Final score, if Wiscy is in our bracket:

    Wisconsin 32
    Duke 29


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    Funny.....ThroatyBeard

    But sadly, that might be close to accurate.

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    I had the same original thought about a Wisco matchup -- first one to 50 wins.

    Whatever we are seeded, I'd like to see Nevada as a second round matchup and maybe Pitt in a regional semifinal. I'd much prefer a 3 or a 6 and avoid the 1 seed until the regional final (or hope for an upset before we would get there).

    I think this tournament has the potential to be much like last year's with a lot of unexpected teams going far. I would not be surprised to see a mid-major in the Final Four again. None of the potential #1 seeds are without flaws or have that aura of invincibility. Not there haven't been teams like that which have lost early, UConn last year, Duke in 2002, a few Kansas teams, UNC in 1994 (to site a few) but I really believe that any of the top 20-25 teams could get hot and win 6 in a row.

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    FLA didn't play LSU last year, UCLA did, but the point is still true: success in the tournament is largely dependent upon the matchups. However, I disagree with the desire to play the PAC-10 schools, as I don't think that Duke matches up very well with them. Of the ones likely to make the tourney, I'd probably rather play Stanford the most, despite the fact that they're playing a ton better as the season goes on (a young team, and their best player may be Brook Lopez, a freshman who was out for the first few games following back surgery.) Despite having two 7 footers, which can be tough, I like them because they play a slower pace. However, we wouldn't get off many shots in the paint, as they block almost everything that goes in there. Markie would have to rediscover his 3-ball. Of the other teams, UCLA would be a very tough game across the board, but Collison is way too quick for us, not to mention Afflalo or Shipp. Even the big men are relatively quick, such as Mbah a Moute. Despite what you said about USC, they're actually a fairly quick team, and I don't know how we'd match up against them. Brooks of Oregon might be our worst nightmare...an incredibly quick little guy who can both hit the 3 with ease and slice to the basket. Not only that, but he's a senior who has stepped up in a lot of games this season. However, Oregon has been on a slide. Arizona hasn't won as many games, but their strength is the incredible athleticism/talent. Their problem is lack of D and that they don't play well as a team. I still wouldn't want them to be our 6 if we were a 3. Maybe the other team to play would be WSU, although they are very good. That game might be another of those 32-29 scores, hopefully with Duke winning... I'd be happy to have WSU be a later round matchup (at least compared to teams like Kansas).

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    Thinking back to 1991, I can be happy with any bracket as long as there is no possibility that we would meet UNC in the Final Four!
    DukeDevilDeb

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    I would love to play Florida in the tourney. That's right, I said it! We're exactly the kind of team that could take them out... a team that plays hard every posession, and one that plays great defense. Have you watched Florida at all? They're complacent and easily frustrated... not to mention that the guys who didn't leave last year when thier stock in the NBA draft was as high as it will ever be, are starting to worry about getting thier looks and raising theier draft status. We would beat Florida.

    The SEC stinks... how about that T-beard?!
    WWJDD?

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    Walking through Pomeroy's rankings (http://kenpom.com/stats.php ):

    1. UNC - NO. not a possibility if Duke gets a top 4 seed, anyway.
    2. Kansas - HECK NO. nightmare matchup. too athletic 1 through 5.
    3. TAMU - DECENT. preferably not, but if given a choice b/w TAMU and Fla/Kansas, I'll take TAMU. decent athleticism.
    4. Florida - HECK NO.
    5. UCLA - NO. bad matchup. they're like us (guard-oriented) but better and older. not conducive at all to an upset, which usually requires a contrast in team makeup.
    6. OSU - YES. they're athletic but young enough that we can pull this off. probably would get upset by someone else along the way.
    7. Wiscy - YES. very much a system team. our defense could hopefully push them away from the basket outside the comforts of their offense, making the game a tossup.
    8. Duke
    9. Memphis - DECENT. with their lack of competition during the year, a good upset candidate.
    10. Georgetown - YES. see Wisconsin. would have confidence of having beaten them before.
    11. Michigan St - YES. not a bad matchup. similar team to us but not more talented than us.
    12. Maryland
    13. Pittsburgh - YES. see Wisconsin
    14. Notre Dame - YES. see Michigan St
    15. Louisville - NO. athletic. coming together nicely. Caracter = beastly.
    16. Indiana - YES.
    17. GaTech
    18. Kentucky - YES. see Michigan St
    19. Villanova - YES. see Michigan St
    20. Texas - NO. no answer for Durant. coming on strong right now.

    I wouldn't terribly mind any non-ACC team below Texas in our bracket. Maybe Arizona because they're such our polar opposite (all offense, no defense) that I wouldn't know which would carry the day, their O or our D. Plus Lute Olson hate us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MulletMan View Post
    I would love to play Florida in the tourney. That's right, I said it! We're exactly the kind of team that could take them out... a team that plays hard every posession, and one that plays great defense. Have you watched Florida at all? They're complacent and easily frustrated... not to mention that the guys who didn't leave last year when thier stock in the NBA draft was as high as it will ever be, are starting to worry about getting thier looks and raising theier draft status. We would beat Florida.
    I think Florida gets up for the games they need to get up for, like when the smacked OSU around. Or went into Rupp and smacked Kentucky around for a half. I think they'd get up for Duke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukie8 View Post
    i'm not sure how stuffed uconn's bracket was last year -- they got to play gm in the regional finals.
    And exactly who predicted Mason would do what it did? Actually uconn's failure to make the Final Four at the hands of an 11 seed proves my point!

    Anyway, when the bracket came out I thought uconn would go down to whomever they ran into in the Sweet 16, Washington vs. Illinois. As it turned out that was one of the better second round games in tournament history, and in the Sweet 16 uconn needed a three at the buzzer to force OT with Washington.

    Kentucky was the eight seed, in a classic "historically strong program gets the 8 seed to scare the crap out of the #1" selection committee move. As I recall Ky kept it close.

    The #2 in uconn's bracket was Tennessee, for whom I had no respect, but the #3 was unc. Remember unc got on quite a roll last year and had their momentum continued would have presented a very tough matchup with uconn in the final eight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. synellinden View Post
    I had the same original thought about a Wisco matchup -- first one to 50 wins.
    I don't think the players would want a 3 hour game.

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    Chris13, awesome! Long time no see.

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    butch/paulus connection

    Quote Originally Posted by rthomas View Post
    Without their starting center (leading rebounder, 3rd leading scorer), Wisconsin is going to be hurting. It will be interesting to see how they fare before the tournament starts. Their tournament seeding could drop.

    With or without Butch, I'd like to see them in our bracket.

    I wouldn't mind seeing any Big East team witht the exception of Georgetown.
    interesting fact: greg paulus lived in appleton, wisconsin, for awhile, where he played basketball for awhile with appleton native brian butch.

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    teams I want in Duke's bracket (somehow)
    Cal
    Louisville
    Arkansas
    UNLV

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