Whoops. I meant to post this to the "Off Topic Board." Apologies.
Yeah I know - baseball season is over and a few people have come out on this board to express their hatred or apathy over America's pasttime.
Still, I found this article and wanted to share. Barry Bonds says he will boycott all things Cooperstown if his ball goes into the Hall of Fame with an asterisk. A quote from the article:
"I don't think you can put an asterisk in the game of baseball, and I don't think that the Hall of Fame can accept an asterisk," Bonds said. "You cannot give people the freedom, the right to alter history. You can't do it. There's no such thing as an asterisk in baseball."
First of all, I'm not so certain he'd get voted in (though I, EarlJam, believe he should be). But man is he despised or what? Secondly, how amazing would it be to have a Baseball Hall of Fame that did not include:
1. The all-time hits leader (Rose) and
2. The all-time home run leader (Bonds)
That would just be odd. A link to the story:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7400384
-EarlJam
Whoops. I meant to post this to the "Off Topic Board." Apologies.
First, it is not his ball. It belongs to Mark Ecko.
Second, it is Ecko's to do with as he sees fit. If he wants to put an asterisk on it with permanant ink that is his right. Then if he wants to donate it to the Hall of Fame that is his right as well.
Third, once it belongs to the Hall of Fame they get to decide if they want to put it on display.
What Barry does or does not want is immaterial. The ball does not belong to him.
Finally, Bonds' statement is nonsense. No one would be altering history. Instead they would be showing how his accomplishments are precieved by the public. The fact that he is a controvesial figure within baseball fandom is as much a part of history as is the number of home runs that he hit. History is more than a collection of facts.
Barring a banishment like Rose, I can't imagine Bonds not being inducted into HoF
Baseball records are relative to an era, and I look forward to the end of the steroid era. I may not live to see it though.
Bonds had a Hall of Fame career before he reportedly started using steroids.
Yeah, I guess it was about time for us to have another Barry Bonds thread.
As for the first part of your post, you are absolutely correct, and nothing I said in any way contradicts that, nor would I care to. It is clearly Bonds' perogotive to boycott the HOF and tell everyone why.
As for the second part of your post, the lovely "What's it to you?", this is a discussion board. You see, Earljam started a thread on a topic and I responded. If no one responded to threads it would not be a discussion board, now would it? It would be a statement board.
Last edited by allenmurray; 11-06-2007 at 11:08 AM. Reason: spelling and grammer
Barry Bonds is and will forever be a cheater
With that said, this side act by the fashion designer is a joke.
Him branding the ball all but guarantees that the HOF will not accept and/or display the ball.
He is trying to get as much publicity with this ball as possible and I got sick of it about 5 minutes after I heard of his pointless internet poll to decide what he should do with the ball
Get over yourself and just do whatever YOU want with the ball. You know as well as we that branding it excludes it from the HOF
The D-bag should just destroy it or hand it over to the HOF as it is
Actually I think HoF said they will accept and display the ball regardless of what he does with it.
here's an article:
Hall of Fame president Dale Petroskey said accepting the ball did not mean the Hall in Cooperstown, N.Y., endorses the viewpoint that Barry Bonds used drugs.
"This ball wouldn't be coming to Cooperstown if Marc hadn't bought it from the fan who caught it and then let the fans have their say," Petroskey told The Associated Press. "We're delighted to have the ball. It's a historic piece of baseball history."
Hall of Fame officials and Ecko are discussing how to affix the asterisk on the ball. It's not yet known when the ball will go on display.
Why not? The Hall has not hidden from baseball scandals past. To the best of my recollection, there are displays about the Black Sox. And asterisk or not, that ball is still the ball that broke the most famous record in sports. What else would you do with it - stick it in a back closet somewhere?
Of course, depending on how it's branded, the Hall could always set it up so that the asterisk is not viewable to the public, too.
Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.
You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner
You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke
Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.
You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner
You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke
Just as a matter of practicality, I wonder if Barry shouldn't have just kept his mouth shut and acted like he didn't give a hoot. Much more fitting with his personality, and my gawd, he's giving a LOT of satisfaction to those who really dislike him (like myself) by making it clear this is getting to him.
And talk about a hollow threat. "Hi, I'm the most despised person in sports. People hate me and steroid abuse. I DARE the HOF to do the popular thing by publically displaying something that condemns steroids and me while functionally ignoring the problem. Go on, I DARE you."
Heck, they should send him a thank you note.