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  1. #1
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    Raleigh NC

    Tipping at Restaurants

    Recently I was at some restaurant & I overheard some of the employees complaining about people not tipping on take out orders. I always given tips when I eat my meal at the restaurant. & when food is delivered to my house. I have never given a tip on take out orders. Does anyone here tip on take out orders? Is it considered rude not to or were the employees just be whiny and greedy?

  2. #2
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    Sterling, VA
    I don't tip if I go into the restaurant for take out orders. If I'm parked at Outback and the guy runs out to my car with my food and runs back in to swipe my credit card (which I think is just silly - sometimes I have just walked in there myself) then I'll add a dollar or so tip.

  3. #3
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    Raleigh NC
    Wow, a buck? I don't even do that, although this one place I go to (THE best hot wings!) they get the change from a dollar from me when I go pick up an order.

  4. #4
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    Feb 2007
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    Charleston, SC
    Take out guys only make $2.13-3.40 an hour just like the servers. If you don't tip those guys, they don't make very much money. Also they do a lot more work preparing your food than you might imagine. If you were dining in, the cooks set up your plate. However for to-go, it is the take out guy's job to do it. I think you guys should tip for to-go orders if they do a good job with your meal. If not then don't. I will say that just giving them the change left over from a dollar is like a slap in the face to a server/take-out guy. Sorry for my soapbox, I work in restaraunt management.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian12215 View Post
    Take out guys only make $2.13-3.40 an hour just like the servers. If you don't tip those guys, they don't make very much money. Also they do a lot more work preparing your food than you might imagine. If you were dining in, the cooks set up your plate. However for to-go, it is the take out guy's job to do it. I think you guys should tip for to-go orders if they do a good job with your meal. If not then don't. I will say that just giving them the change left over from a dollar is like a slap in the face to a server/take-out guy. Sorry for my soapbox, I work in restaraunt management.
    Puts a different spin on it, thanks for the info. I will be more generous in the future.

    Where'd all the Kleenex go?

  6. #6
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    Charleston, SC
    Let me clarify that I am talking about the take out guys at restaraunts like Outback, Applebees, Ruby T's, etc. I don't know much about TO guys at a chinese or pizza place.

  7. #7
    what are the thoughts on tipping at a place like Chipotle where you just go down the assembly line. I am never sure if it is proper to tip in that case or not. Perhaps I am incorrect, but I always viewed a tip as compensation in thanks for good service and a pleasant attitude. At a place like Chipotle they don't bring me my food, they don't refill my drink, and they clear away the table after me. I always figured the price of my meal would cover the bare bones minimum.

    When the people at Chipotle barely acknowledge me, and just put together the food as I give an order I dont think that deserves a tip. If however the person behind the glass is kind and friendly, I will give a dollar or two. I just sometimes feel awkward when I see the tip line on a credit card receipt and dont feel like they have earned it.
    Last edited by Channing; 10-25-2007 at 12:31 PM. Reason: incomplete post

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian12215 View Post
    Take out guys only make $2.13-3.40 an hour just like the servers. If you don't tip those guys, they don't make very much money. Also they do a lot more work preparing your food than you might imagine. If you were dining in, the cooks set up your plate. However for to-go, it is the take out guy's job to do it. I think you guys should tip for to-go orders if they do a good job with your meal. If not then don't. I will say that just giving them the change left over from a dollar is like a slap in the face to a server/take-out guy. Sorry for my soapbox, I work in restaraunt management.
    So, why don't you pay this type of worker more, rather than expect us to subsidize your low pay scale? I'm paying a fair amount for the product anyway, it's not like I'm getting a discount for take-out, right? There's got to be a better argument for me to want to pay more for takeout.
    JStuart

  9. #9
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    Always, always tip a bare-as$ minimum of 15%. But 20% is better. If you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip decently.

    And more if she's hot, unless your wife disagrees that she's hot.

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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Always, always tip a bare-as$ minimum of 15%. But 20% is better. If you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip decently.

    And more if she's hot, unless your wife agrees that she's hot.
    Changed original to reflect longer marriage.

    Exiled
    Now I'm 33, my back hurts, and I just don't care who does what in Cameron. - Throatybeard

  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Devil View Post
    Changed original to reflect longer marriage.

    Exiled
    Change to reflect an even LONGER marriage:

    And more if she's hot, unless your wife notices first that she's hot.


    PS why can't I multuquote?

  12. #12
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    Southern Pines, NC
    I have always considered 15% the standard. The 20% rate has a sort of snob character to it, and is more than inflationary. However, if service is in any way exceptional, I will go as high as 20%, but I won't brag or complain about it. I will sometimes go below the 15% rate if the service is not as expected. If I want the tip to go to a waiter personally I hand it directly to her/him instead of entering it on the credit card receipt. I might then add 5% or so on the credit card receipt.

    I never get take out at a regular restaurant, and I only go to a fast food place as a rest stop when traveling. I have never noticed anyone tipping at a fast food place. I do tip at Panera's and Starbuck's when there is a tip jar, and at a lower rate.

    I prefer the customs that were followed in Germany when I was spending a lot of time there. In a restaurant the gratuity was included in the bill, but I would add something on a sliding scale up to 10% for exceptional service and food preparation.

    My ideas are based on recommendations in travel guides that my wife always buys before we go on a trip. Some tipping guides recommend tips for all kinds of service people. I noticed one guide put out by a travel agency that suggested tips for bank tellers and airline check-in personnel. I say thank you to the tellers, and I restrain myself from yelling at airline employees.

  13. #13
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    "I say thank you to the tellers, and I restrain myself from yelling at airline employees."

    Outstanding; Post-of-the-Month caliber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian12215 View Post
    Take out guys only make $2.13-3.40 an hour just like the servers. If you don't tip those guys, they don't make very much money. Also they do a lot more work preparing your food than you might imagine. If you were dining in, the cooks set up your plate. However for to-go, it is the take out guy's job to do it. I think you guys should tip for to-go orders if they do a good job with your meal. If not then don't. I will say that just giving them the change left over from a dollar is like a slap in the face to a server/take-out guy. Sorry for my soapbox, I work in restaraunt management.

    Nope. If the restaurant wants to pay someone so little for that job, then that is between the restaurant and the employee.

    It is not my job as the customer to pay the remainder of someone's paycheck when the restaurant won't. I tip based upon service: if it is adequate, they get 15%-20%. If its good, they get more than 20%. If it is poor, they get less than 10%. If they are not doing anything more than handing me my bag of food, they get exactly what the guy at McDonalds gets - zip.

    I also don't clear my own table at fast food restaurants - when did this become a norm? Why is it a norm? How is that these service companies convinced customers that they had to do work in order to get their product? This gets my ire up. It is especially true at the new Mexican-subway type paces. If I am paying $7 for a burrito and chips, I am not clearing my own table.

    Don't tip if you are not sitting at a table (or the bar) and eating. If the restaurant's business model is to underpay someone to address take-out orders specifically, they are responsible for making that work, not you as the customer. (Like JStuart says). Don't 'feel bad for the kid' or feel 'that youa re being rude' This transaction is not between you and Mr' Nice bag-boy. It's between you and the restaurant.

    Sorry for my soapbox. I have issues with corporations taking advantage of people's emotions to cut costs.
    Exiled
    Now I'm 33, my back hurts, and I just don't care who does what in Cameron. - Throatybeard

  15. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Devil View Post

    Sorry for my soapbox. I have issues with corporations taking advantage of people's emotions to cut costs.
    Exiled
    so you're gonna take your frustrations and issues out on the 20 year old working nights while going to college full time? just to somehow prove to yourself as you drive away "hah! i really showed that restaurant!"

    the 3 dollars means a lot less to you than it does to them. have some compassion. write a letter to the company if it bothers you that much.

    (besides, you're actually tipping them more. if they don't claim all their tips as income, as no one does, its tax-free for them. boom, your $3 becomes $5, essentially).

  16. #16
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    I tip relentlessly, but these cash jars are everywhere, at least in NYC. Everyone I get anything from (coffee baristas, guys who hand over pre-made sandwiches, my girlfriend when she "gives" me the sports page) expect a dollar, and it does seem that the jar becomes a way to increase the company's profit rather than the worker's income.

  17. #17
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    The Sports Page

    Quote Originally Posted by johnb View Post
    I tip relentlessly ... my girlfriend when she "gives" me the sports page) expect a dollar
    Oh, is that what we're calling it these days - "the sports page"?

    Somehow, I think if I ask my wife for "the sports page", it's not gonna happen...
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  18. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    Oh, is that what we're calling it these days - "the sports page"?

    Somehow, I think if I ask my wife for "the sports page", it's not gonna happen...

    Frequency of receipt of the sports page is inversely proportional to the link of the marriage.

  19. #19
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    Feb 2007
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    Los Angeles
    No one has yet said that they tip at a fast food drive through, yet those guys provide identical service to someone at a take-out window. They're also underpaid, so why don't people feel that they should help the drive-through people get through HS or college? I actually find myself on the side of Exiled in this situation, as I think that tipping can get out of hand. Tip for service, not for just taking my money and giving me what I bought. Soon, cashiers at Blockbuster would expect tips if people get tipped for just putting what I'm paying for into a bag and giving it to me (in other words, their job).

    On this note, I got some take out last night from the Mexican place around the corner from me (a little hole-in-the-wall). I paid with a credit card, as I tend to do, and they gave me my bag of food. There wasn't even a place on the receipt for me to fill in a tip, so it's obvious that they don't expect one for just giving me the food I paid for. This is true even though they do have a few tables in the place that you can take your food to in order to eat in the place.

    No one has mentioned this, but tipping is anl AMERICAN habit.

  20. #20
    The issue is that the restaurant industry has managed to carve a niche where they are not subject to the standard minimum wage laws.

    In the case of a table server the carve out is probably legitimate, as they are providing services to the customer and earning their tip. The problem arises if, as I just learned in this thread, other employees who are not serving tables or working at the bar are also subject to these low wages. Either the entire restaurant should pool their tips, and tip out the take out people, just as they tip out the bus boys, or the position of take out person should be subject to minimum wage. Its as simple as that.

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