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  1. #41

    If you want the negative, there's another board you can visit that is positively giddy over this outcome. ”

    Giddy is not a true characterization. Seething would be closer. This team will continue to struggle against teams with decent talent and a good coach, because we have a bad coach.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by grossbus View Post
    This team will continue to struggle against teams with decent talent and a good coach, because we have a bad coach.
    there are better ways to say this.

    I think coach P did a pretty good job with the team last year. close loss to ND and beating the national champion? Those are darn good performances for a team coming off missing the tournament.

    could a different coach have increased our chances of beating nova? maybe...

    but given it seems P made some adjustments last year both on and off the court, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt this year.

    Everyone has bad losses every once in a while (even uconn lost to un-ranked st. johns in 2012). time will tell whether the ceiling for this team is at eye level or in the attic.
    1200. DDMF.

  3. #43
    Playing Villanova is the women’s basketball equivalent of playing an option team in football. There are no lessons to be drawn from it. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnspbesq View Post
    Playing Villanova is the women’s basketball equivalent of playing an option team in football. There are no lessons to be drawn from it. Move on.
    and yet, we're drawing plenty of lessons from duke's win over GT saturday!

    there are plenty of reasons not to read too much into such an early season loss...i don't think there's anything unique about it being villanova.
    1200. DDMF.

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    Duke drops 5 spots to 16th in the latest AP rankings. Their win moved Nova to 27th.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  6. #46
    Got to give Coach P this much: she's not afraid to play on the road. Duke played it's third true road game out of its first four games, and this time won in a blowout, 84-51, over Old Dominion.

    Lexie scored 28, with 8 assists, 8 boards, and 3 steals, going 4 for 6 from three-land. Becca scored 22 with 9 rebounds and 2 steals, going 6 for 7 from deep. And Haley hit 3 of 5 three-pointers, for 11 points in 14 minutes. Erin had another solid game, with 7 points and 6 rebounds. Mikayla shot just 1 for 10 from the field (1 for 5 on layups), but had 4 assists against zero turnovers.

    Duke once again dominated the boards, with 41% OR% and 71% DR%, and even had a stellar 19 to 9 a/to ratio. ODU took 50% of their shots from three-range, but only hit 23% of them (it doesn't approach Villanova attempting 72% of their shots from distance, but 50% is still a lot).

    Clearly ODU was overmatched, but this time the Devils did what they were supposed to do against an overmatched opponent.

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    Good win today over Oregon State, 72-65. OSU is ranked #17 and made the Final Four a couple of years ago. They're basically Villanova, with a low-post presence, 6-5 German Marie Gulich. She had 16 points, nine rebounds and four blocks but also five turnovers.

    In fact, Duke forced 18 turnovers, while committing only nine, the second-consecutive single-digit turnover game and a welcome respite from Duke's recent turnover-prone team. A great harbinger for things to come if Duke can maintain it.

    The usual suspects played well for Duke. Lexie Brown had 19 points, five assists and two huge steals-turned-into-layups-down the stretch. Rebecca Greenwell had 17 points and nine rebounds, Leaonna Odom 16 and eight.

    That's the big three that will carry Duke this season.

    The complementary players were complementary.

    Duke led much of the game but the visitors cut a nine-point Duke lead to one about four minutes into the final quarter. Duke called timeout and stabilized nicely.

    A good win for Duke's confidence and it will look nice come NCAA seeding-time.

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    Those 2 steals, pick-sixes by Lexie were daggers. Very nice win. Becca did a great job creating her own shot.
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
    Dr. Pangloss - Candide

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    The complementary players were complementary.
    It wasn't really reflected in the box score, but Erin Matthias and Haley Gorecki played really well.

    Leaonna scored 12 points in the first half and seemed fairly unstoppable. Mikayla had four assists and hit two early threes, doubling her season total and helping Duke shoot 47.4% from three-land for the game (9 for 19). Overall, this was probably Duke's best game of the year so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedsy View Post
    It wasn't really reflected in the box score, but Erin Matthias and Haley Gorecki played really well.

    Leaonna scored 12 points in the first half and seemed fairly unstoppable. Mikayla had four assists and hit two early threes, doubling her season total and helping Duke shoot 47.4% from three-land for the game (9 for 19). Overall, this was probably Duke's best game of the year so far.
    Greenwell had nine rebounds. When asked about it, she went out of her way to praise Mathias for blocking out Gulich and keeping her out of the way,

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    OSU coach Scott Rueck had an interesting response when asked about Brown's two late steals.

    "Anytime you are running a zone defense, and I’ve run a lot in my career, when you are a veteran zone team, they become psychologists and they read your eyes. They know where you want to go. They prey on weakness and doubt. We’re looking around and we’re getting into this set or that set and she jumped two passes. She’d been sitting off that passing lane pretty much all day, allowed that pass to the wing and then two times in a row catches us looking at wrong things and makes plays that really good players make. That’s a veteran doing what veterans do, I think. Making plays to win games.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    OSU coach Scott Rueck had an interesting response when asked about Brown's two late steals.

    "Anytime you are running a zone defense, and I’ve run a lot in my career, when you are a veteran zone team, they become psychologists and they read your eyes. They know where you want to go. They prey on weakness and doubt. We’re looking around and we’re getting into this set or that set and she jumped two passes. She’d been sitting off that passing lane pretty much all day, allowed that pass to the wing and then two times in a row catches us looking at wrong things and makes plays that really good players make. That’s a veteran doing what veterans do, I think. Making plays to win games.”
    Nice find Jim.
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    Nice find Jim.
    Well, I did ask him the question.

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    Well one Jim

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    Duke had a solid 79-45 win over Presbyterian this afternoon.

    Remember, this game started about 21 hours after the end of the Oregon State game.

    Presbyterian isn't good enough to make this a true trap game but it was interesting to see how Duke would respond to the short turn-around.

    Presbyterian is a typical mid-major team, undersized, with lots of ball-handlers and shooters.

    They really used the shot clock, all 30 seconds of it. Early on Duke was playing 25 or so seconds of solid defense but giving up a decent shot at the end of the clock. They also allowed the visitors to grab seven offensive rebounds in the first half, mostly chasing down long misses.

    As a result, they kept it close for awhile, trailing only 36-28 at the half.

    Duke tightened up in the second half, playing good defense through the shot clock. Presbyterian started getting shot-clock violations, held balls, bad shots, turnovers. Duke outscored them 20-9 in the third, 23-8 in the fourth.

    As I suggested yesterday, Duke has a distinct big three and all three played well today. Rebecca Greenwell had 22 points, making 5-of-10 3-pointers. She's four away from Tricia Liston's school record. Lexie Brown had 18 points, seven assists, five steals and no turnovers. Leaonna Odom went 14 and 10.

    Some nice efforts off the bench. Faith Suggs had eight points and even started the second half, ahead of Boykin. Freshmen bigs Madison Treece and Jade Williams combined for 11 points and two rebounds, albeit against 6-1 posts. Still, they're freshmen, so any sign of growth is encouraging.

    Duke did dodge one bullet. Brown went down in the first half and didn't get up for awhile. But she came back a few minutes later and played out with no signs of distress. She said she rolled an ankle and was fine. In fact, she said she tripped herself.

    Duke hosts The Ohio State University next Thursday in the ACC-Big 10 Challenge. They're ranked in the top-10 and feature Kelsey Mitchell, a high-scoring wing who has a legit shot at passing Kelsey Plum to become the career leading scorer in NCAA women's hoops. She's lights out from 3-point range.

    As an aside, you might think about naming your next daughter Kelsey.

    Former Duke player Sierra Calhoun also plays for OSU.

    A good game to attend, should one be inclined to that sort of thing.

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    Villanova moved into the AP poll for the first time in 13 years...so maybe the loss wasn't all that bad. Early season game on the road in a high school gym.

    The next 2 games will tell us a lot.

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    Really wishing I could attend the Duke-OSU matchup.

    The Bucks are loaded. They're 2-0 against Stanford this season. Their only other ranked opponent was #4 Louisville, which beat the Bucks in overtime.

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    Your ESPN2 analyst for Ohio State @ Duke: someone named Gail Goestenkors....
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    Is that true?! Oh man.

    Even more excited for the game tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msdukie View Post
    Your ESPN2 analyst for Ohio State @ Duke: someone named Gail Goestenkors...
    WOW!
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