Grayson Allen points chase: to 2000 and beyond

[DukieInBrasil]

Grayson tallied 40 points in Duke's first two games, vaulting him past Chris Carrawell and Vince Taylor on the all-time scoring list. He now stands at #31. Next up is Carlos Boozer (1506, or Grayson + 42 pts). The full list is below.

As far as his career scoring numbers, here's a brief breakdown the points he'd need to average to achieve the following milestones:

As of 11/12/2017
Min Games Remaining	31
Grayson’s points	1464
Avg to 2k	17.29
Avg to top 10	19.77
Avg to JJ	42.10

JJ's total is unreachable, but the 2,000 point mark isn't far fetched, IMHO.

Duke Career Scoring Leaders

	Name	Pts
1	JJ Redick	2769
2	Johnny Dawkins	2556
3	Christian Laettner	2460
4	Kyle Singler	2392
5	Mike Gminski	2323
6	Danny Ferry	2155
7	Mark Alarie	2136
8	Gene Banks	2079
8	Jason Williams	2079
10	Jon Scheyer	2077
11	Jim Spanarkel	2012
12	Art Heyman	1984
12	Shane Battier	1984
14	Shelden Willaims	1928
15	Trajan Langdon	1974
16	Grant Hill	1924
17	Nolan Smith	1911
18	Dick Groat	1886
19	Jeff Mullins	1884
20	Bob Verga	1758
21	Bobby Hurley	1731
22	Randy Denton	1658
23	Ronnie Mayer	1647
24	Cherokee Parks	1643
25	Jeff Capel	1601
26	Daniel Ewing	1595
27	Thomas Hill	1594
28	Quinn Cook	1571
29	David Henderson	1570
30	Carlos Boozer	1506
31	Grayson Allen	1464
32	Vince Taylor	1455
32	Chris Carrawell	1455

Grayson could get into the top 6 if he continues to score 20ppg and we play into the Final 4 (2184), but it would take a good bit more for him to break into the top 5. Grayson would have to average about 22.7ppg and play in 40 games to pass Gminski. I think that is a reasonable goal!!!

[Olympic Fan]

Grayson's stats us pretty amazing, considering he just scored 153 points as a freshman.

The only guys ahead of him on the list with less points as a freshman are three-year players Jeff Mullins, Art Heyman, Bob Verga and Randy Denton -- and Grayson should pass all of them before he's done.

Well, I just checked and Quinn Cook had just 146 points as a freshman -- but Grayson is going to blow past him soon. Nolan Smith was another late bloomer, but he had 202 points as a freshman.

[TruBlu]

Grayson's stats us pretty amazing, considering he just scored 153 points as a freshman.

The only guys ahead of him on the list with less points as a freshman are three-year players Jeff Mullins, Art Heyman, Bob Verga and Randy Denton -- and Grayson should pass all of them before he's done.

Well, I just checked and Quinn Cook had just 146 points as a freshman -- but Grayson is going to blow past him soon. Nolan Smith was another late bloomer, but he had 202 points as a freshman.

16 of those freshman points by Grayson were huge!!!

[MCFinARL]

Grayson could get into the top 6 if he continues to score 20ppg and we play into the Final 4 (2184), but it would take a good bit more for him to break into the top 5. Grayson would have to average about 22.7ppg and play in 40 games to pass Gminski. I think that is a reasonable goal!!!

A reasonable goal, sure. A reasonable expectation, maybe not.

[lmb]

I always loved Daniel Ewing as a player but admit I was surprised to see how high he was on this list. So many great players have come and gone that it's easy to forget about the achievements of a few that aren't as heralded.

[DukieInBrasil]

just thought i'd point out that Grayson's next made 3 will be the 200th of his career.
I didn't bother to look up where he stands on Duke's all-time 3pt makes list.

[94duke]

just thought i'd point out that Grayson's next made 3 will be the 200th of his career.
I didn't bother to look up where he stands on Duke's all-time 3pt makes list.

from the media guide:
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.db...CLID=211675332

3-POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
Rk Name			Years		3FG
1. J.J. Redick		2003-06		457
2. Trajan Langdon	1995-99		342
3. Jason Williams	2000-02		313
4. Jon Scheyer		2007-10		297
5. Kyle Singler		2008-11		267
6. Bobby Hurley		1990-93		264
7. Shane Battier	1998-2001	246
8. Quinn Cook		2012-15		236
9. Andre Dawkins	2010-12, 2014	231
10. Seth Curry		2011-13		223

[Kedsy]

from the media guide:
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.db...CLID=211675332

3-POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
Rk Name			Years		3FG
1. J.J. Redick		2003-06		457
2. Trajan Langdon	1995-99		342
3. Jason Williams	2000-02		313
4. Jon Scheyer		2007-10		297
5. Kyle Singler		2008-11		267
6. Bobby Hurley		1990-93		264
7. Shane Battier	1998-2001	246
8. Quinn Cook		2012-15		236
9. Andre Dawkins	2010-12, 2014	231
10. Seth Curry		2011-13		223

Wow, that means Grayson has a decent shot at 3rd all time.

[flyingdutchdevil]

from the media guide:
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.db...CLID=211675332

3-POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
Rk Name			Years		3FG
1. J.J. Redick		2003-06		457
2. Trajan Langdon	1995-99		342
3. Jason Williams	2000-02		313
4. Jon Scheyer		2007-10		297
5. Kyle Singler		2008-11		267
6. Bobby Hurley		1990-93		264
7. Shane Battier	1998-2001	246
8. Quinn Cook		2012-15		236
9. Andre Dawkins	2010-12, 2014	231
10. Seth Curry		2011-13		223

My God JJ is a legend.

[DukieInBrasil]

Wow, that means Grayson has a decent shot at 3rd all time.

Yeah, if Duke plays another 38 games, Grayson would need to hit 114 to tie Jason Williams, and will need to hit 4.07 3s/game. To pass J-Will he'll need to hit 4.107 3s/game.
So if Grayson shoots 10 3s/game, he would need to hit them at ~41% rate, which is right at his So. 3FG% rate.
So far Grayson is hitting them at a rate of 5/game, shooting 7.5 3s/game, shooting a ridiculous 67%. I don't suspect his 3FG% to stay that high, but it does seem somewhat likely that his 3FG/game will go up from where it is now.

[sagegrouse]

from the media guide:
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.db...CLID=211675332

3-POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
Rk Name			Years		3FG
1. J.J. Redick		2003-06		457
2. Trajan Langdon	1995-99		342
3. Jason Williams	2000-02		313
4. Jon Scheyer		2007-10		297
5. Kyle Singler		2008-11		267
6. Bobby Hurley		1990-93		264
7. Shane Battier	1998-2001	246
8. Quinn Cook		2012-15		236
9. Andre Dawkins	2010-12, 2014	231
10. Seth Curry		2011-13		223

Just to prove I can't let anything go -- how is JWill number three on our all-time three-point list (in only three seasons) when he can't make a free throw in the final seconds against Indiana in the Sweet Sixteen?????

[DukieInBrasil]

Grayson now at 206 career 3s. Needs 108 to get to number 3 on the list. I did my math wrong earlier, he only needed to 3 3s/game to get to 3rd place (assuming 38 more games). After this one, he only needs to hit 2.91/game to get to 3rd place.
If he makes 3.7/game in 37 more games, he'll pass Trajan for #2 on the Duke career 3pt list.

[CDu]

Grayson now at 206 career 3s. Needs 108 to get to number 3 on the list. I did my math wrong earlier, he only needed to 3 3s/game to get to 3rd place (assuming 38 more games). After this one, he only needs to hit 2.91/game to get to 3rd place.
If he makes 3.7/game in 37 more games, he'll pass Trajan for #2 on the Duke career 3pt list.

And if he keeps hitting 7 per game, he has a shot to overtake Redick. Kidding, of course. Sort of kidding.

[Acymetric]

And if he keeps hitting 7 per game, he has a shot to overtake Redick. Kidding, of course. Sort of kidding.

The scary thing (about JJ) is that he would only have a shot. JJ was pretty good at basketball.

[DukieInBrasil]

The scary thing (about JJ) is that he would only have a shot. JJ was pretty good at basketball.

the man's still scorching nets in the NBA. He is pretty good.

[JNort]

Well tonight's game certainly boosted Grayson up in his points and 3s made.

[DevilFalcon]

Grayson for NPOY!

[brlftz]

My God JJ is a legend.

Also my God, JWill did all that JWill stuff and is also that high on the 3 pt list? He's underappreciated IMO.

[juise]

As shown above, Grayson needs to average 42 to catch JJ. This 37-point effort tonight is just not getting it done. It's early in the season, so I will try to withhold judgment.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Just to prove I can't let anything go -- how is JWill number three on our all-time three-point list (in only three seasons) when he can't make a free throw in the final seconds against Indiana in the Sweet Sixteen?????

How could Trajan be #2 when all I remember is him traveling?

/s