2017 NBA Draft Thread

[Matches]

Gerald Henderson.

Yea the "Hornets always draft UNC guys and never take Duke players" thing is pretty outdated. I don't recall the Hornets/ Bobcats drafting a UNC guy in the 1st round since Brendan Wright (who they immediately traded). The current roster has one UNC guy (Marvin Williams) and one Duke guy (MP1), and both Henderson and Josh McRoberts played significant roles for the team in recent seasons.

The Hornets did screw up taking Kaminsky over Winslow but even that isn't an egregious error, as Kaminsky has turned into a useful rotation player.

I think everyone just remembers that year they took both Felton and May - clearly not their finest moment, but Jordan didn't even own the team then.

[flyingdutchdevil]

Yea the "Hornets always draft UNC guys and never take Duke players" thing is pretty outdated. I don't recall the Hornets/ Bobcats drafting a UNC guy in the 1st round since Brendan Wright (who they immediately traded). The current roster has one UNC guy (Marvin Williams) and one Duke guy (MP1), and both Henderson and Josh McRoberts played significant roles for the team in recent seasons.

The Hornets did screw up taking Kaminsky over Winslow but even that isn't an egregious error, as Kaminsky has turned into a useful rotation player.

I think everyone just remembers that year they took both Felton and May - clearly not their finest moment, but Jordan didn't even own the team then.

Highly debatable. Winslow is clearly the better defender and has the higher ceiling, but the jury is still out on whether he can shoot. For his career, Justise is shooting 26% from 3pt land. Unfortunately, shooting 67% from the FT line doesn't help either.

Winslow is a baaaaaaaaaaaad shooter right now. Significantly worse than MKG's first two years from the FG and FT line. That's terrible.

Winslow will have a solid career in the NBA. But if he doesn't improve his shooting drastically, he'll always be a fringe player.

[Matches]

Highly debatable. Winslow is clearly the better defender and has the higher ceiling, but the jury is still out on whether he can shoot. For his career, Justise is shooting 26% from 3pt land. Unfortunately, shooting 67% from the FT line doesn't help either.

Winslow is a baaaaaaaaaaaad shooter right now. Significantly worse than MKG's first two years from the FG and FT line. That's terrible.

I don't disagree. Was bummed at the time because I love Winslow and thought Kaminsky would be a bust. Winslow's skill set does overlap quite a bit with MKG though, and Kaminsky has been better than I thought he'd be.

I'm still a believer that Winslow will turn into a really good NBA player, probably better than Kaminsky, but the pick doesn't seem as bad as it did to me at the time.

[English]

Highly debatable. Winslow is clearly the better defender and has the higher ceiling, but the jury is still out on whether he can shoot. For his career, Justise is shooting 26% from 3pt land. Unfortunately, shooting 67% from the FT line doesn't help either.

Winslow is a baaaaaaaaaaaad shooter right now. Significantly worse than MKG's first two years from the FG and FT line. That's terrible.

Winslow will have a solid career in the NBA. But if he doesn't improve his shooting drastically, he'll always be a fringe player.

You can throw this wrinkle into the debate about whether MJ screwed up the pick...Boston wanted to trade 6 picks (4 first rounders) for No. 9 to get Justise. Frank was already considered a reach at No. 9, so he could've potentially been available at No. 16. Even if he wasn't, was he worth the boatload of picks? I'd argue he wasn't/isn't.

Either way, as a Duke guy and major Winslow fan, I nearly quit my allegiance to the franchise after that boondoggle. At least I would've acknowledged the value of passing on Justise for that haul. But Frank Kaminsky at No. 9? No.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/re...ets-no-9-pick/

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...223512211.html

[NM Duke Fan]

So apparently Bradley is NC's first one and done since 2007, where do you think he will be drafted?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...017-nba-draft/

[flyingdutchdevil]

They don't like Duke players: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/24/nb...celtics-lakers

Tatum 6
Giles 19
Kennard 20
Jackson N/A

[CDu]

So apparently Bradley is NC's first one and done since 2007, where do you think he will be drafted?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...017-nba-draft/

If so, good. The Heels were long overdue for some less than perfect (for them) news.

[WiJoe]

They don't like Duke players: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/24/nb...celtics-lakers

Tatum 6
Giles 19
Kennard 20
Jackson N/A

I wouldn't worry about what failing SI thinks.

[kAzE]

They don't like Duke players: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/24/nb...celtics-lakers

Tatum 6
Giles 19
Kennard 20
Jackson N/A

At this point, I would actually be surprised if Luke Kennard fell further than 18. I think his range is 12-18, and he probably goes #16 to the Bulls. I would absolutely be ecstatic if the Bucks grabbed him at #17. Giannis needs to be surrounded by more shooting.

[Atlanta Duke]

They don't like Duke players: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/24/nb...celtics-lakers

Tatum 6
Giles 19
Kennard 20
Jackson N/A

Consider the source - Andrew Sharp has shown little affection for Duke and its fans going back to his Grantland days

[Rich]

They don't like Duke players: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/24/nb...celtics-lakers

Tatum 6
Giles 19
Kennard 20
Jackson N/A

Fake news and alternative facts...

[NashvilleDevil]

Consider the source - Andrew Sharp has shown little affection for Duke and its fans going back to his Grantland days

Because he went to Carolina.

[Furniture]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpr...020354/video/1

just spotted this. He looks great!!!

[NM Duke Fan]

Former Duke guard Frank Jackson has undergone right foot surgery and is targeting a late July return to the hardwood, according to a report from Adrian Wojnarowski of the Vertical. Jackson sustained a stress reaction during his freshman season at Duke and reportedly played pain-free through the season, but decided to have the surgery now to begin the rehabilitation process.

Jackson declared for the NBA Draft after his freshman season and surprised many by signing with an agent, forfeiting his right to return to Duke in doing so. His goal in undergoing surgery ahead of the June 22 draft is to be fully prepared for NBA training camp in September and potentially as early as late July, leaving the door open for a return for summer league action.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...training-camp/

[cato]

Former Duke guard Frank Jackson has undergone right foot surgery and is targeting a late July return to the hardwood, according to a report from Adrian Wojnarowski of the Vertical. Jackson sustained a stress reaction during his freshman season at Duke and reportedly played pain-free through the season, but decided to have the surgery now to begin the rehabilitation process.

Jackson declared for the NBA Draft after his freshman season and surprised many by signing with an agent, forfeiting his right to return to Duke in doing so. His goal in undergoing surgery ahead of the June 22 draft is to be fully prepared for NBA training camp in September and potentially as early as late July, leaving the door open for a return for summer league action.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...training-camp/

Wha . . . ?

[sagegrouse]

Former Duke guard Frank Jackson has undergone right foot surgery and is targeting a late July return to the hardwood, according to a report from Adrian Wojnarowski of the Vertical. Jackson sustained a stress reaction during his freshman season at Duke and reportedly played pain-free through the season, but decided to have the surgery now to begin the rehabilitation process.

Jackson declared for the NBA Draft after his freshman season and surprised many by signing with an agent, forfeiting his right to return to Duke in doing so. His goal in undergoing surgery ahead of the June 22 draft is to be fully prepared for NBA training camp in September and potentially as early as late July, leaving the door open for a return for summer league action.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...training-camp/

Wha . . . ?

Less... I think I got this. Frank Jackson had a stress fracture, and Chase Jeter, being such a empathetic guy, took the pain from Frank and sidelined himself while he recovered from Frank's injury. In fact, Chase even quietly let out word that he had surgery. A gentleman and a scholar, I would say.

[Olympic Fan]

Former Duke guard Frank Jackson has undergone right foot surgery and is targeting a late July return to the hardwood, according to a report from Adrian Wojnarowski of the Vertical. Jackson sustained a stress reaction during his freshman season at Duke and reportedly played pain-free through the season, but decided to have the surgery now to begin the rehabilitation process.

Jackson declared for the NBA Draft after his freshman season and surprised many by signing with an agent, forfeiting his right to return to Duke in doing so. His goal in undergoing surgery ahead of the June 22 draft is to be fully prepared for NBA training camp in September and potentially as early as late July, leaving the door open for a return for summer league action.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...training-camp/

Interesting in hindsight ...

Frank opened the season by scoring in double figures in the first eight games (averaging just over 15.0 ppg).

Then he sat out the easy win over Maine with an undisclosed foot injury.

He returned for the next game (vs. Florida) and scored three points. He scored single figures in five straight games (averaging 6.0 ppg) before hitting 15 in the rout of Georgia Tech. He was pretty up and down through the bulk of the season (some very good games, but a lot of nothing ones) until the end, when he hit double figures in seven of the last nine games (averaging almost exactly 15.0 in that stretch).

That sounds like he had a stress fracture (or reaction) show up right before the Maine game. It bothered him for a few weeks, but he learned to manage it -- better and better as the season wore on. It couldn't have been too terrible -- his impressive physical showing at the combine is one of the reasons he stayed in the draft.

PS Wouldn't be shocked to learn that Bolden also had a stress fracture. His preseason foot injury was never explained ... and a stress reaction is tougher for a big man to deal with. We saw Seth Curry play the entire 2013 season with a stress reaction -- and he was still an all-acc level player.

[dukelifer]

So apparently Bradley is NC's first one and done since 2007, where do you think he will be drafted?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...017-nba-draft/

Just goes to show that it is tough to win it all without 1 and done talent- just sayin'

[mr. synellinden]

When is Duke going to look into whether there might be or is a problem with the floor surface? I know injuries are part of basketball and running and jumping are hard on the feet. But the number of broken feet and stress reactions cannot be normal, average or expected. Assuming there is a higher rate of such injuries than could reasonably be expected, isn't the floor surface something that should be evaluated?

[gep]

And/or shoes? And/or combination of shoes/floor?