Chip Engelland

[TKG]

Nice piece on Chip from BR. The Shot Whisperer.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...al&utm_source=

[ipatent]

The teams Chip played on weren't very good, and he wasn't a highlight reel athlete, but he stands with the very best shooters in Duke history.

[devil84]

A statistic I find interesting: For Duke's stats, one needs 75 shots as a minimum (the ACC requires 150). Duke's leading 3pt percentage leader is Christian Laettner. He was 79-163, or 48.5% for his career. Chip Engelland had a single year, and was 41-74 from three. That's 55.4%. Outstanding. If only he had taken ONE more 3 point shot, he'd be at the top of Duke's career 3pt percentage list.

[dukelifer]

A statistic I find interesting: For Duke's stats, one needs 75 shots as a minimum (the ACC requires 150). Duke's leading 3pt percentage leader is Christian Laettner. He was 79-163, or 48.5% for his career. Chip Engelland had a single year, and was 41-74 from three. That's 55.4%. Outstanding. If only he had taken ONE more 3 point shot, he'd be at the top of Duke's career 3pt percentage list.

Can't remember the distance- but I believe the 3 was under 18ft back when Chip was hitting them.

[TKG]

A statistic I find interesting: For Duke's stats, one needs 75 shots as a minimum (the ACC requires 150). Duke's leading 3pt percentage leader is Christian Laettner. He was 79-163, or 48.5% for his career. Chip Engelland had a single year, and was 41-74 from three. That's 55.4%. Outstanding. If only he had taken ONE more 3 point shot, he'd be at the top of Duke's career 3pt percentage list.

I believe Chip made second team All-ACC in that one year he played with the three point shot.

[Indoor66]

Can't remember the distance- but I believe the 3 was under 18ft back when Chip was hitting them.

If only we had measured distance shots when Verga played. That would be interesting.

[sagegrouse]

A statistic I find interesting: For Duke's stats, one needs 75 shots as a minimum (the ACC requires 150). Duke's leading 3pt percentage leader is Christian Laettner. He was 79-163, or 48.5% for his career. Chip Engelland had a single year, and was 41-74 from three. That's 55.4%. Outstanding. If only he had taken ONE more 3 point shot, he'd be at the top of Duke's career 3pt percentage list.

Usually, in hoops stats, one adjusts the denominator to reflect the minimum attempts and, if one is still in the lead, then he gets the title. Chip's 41 for 75 is still over 50 percent. I believe this is the way the NBA does it for three-point shooting awards.

[cspan37421]

Can't remember the distance- but I believe the 3 was under 18ft back when Chip was hitting them.

According to this Dana O'Neil article, it was 17 feet, 9 inches when the ACC experimented with it before it was permanently adopted:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ege-basketball

Someone else can confirm.

Gotta admit, that is considerably shorter than the 19 feet 9 inches it became ... and now it's even longer.

Still terrific shooting given that it's 100% a jump shot (many great overall shooting %ages are built on a combo of jump shots and layups/slams). But if the 17' 9" is right, you can't really compare it to much of anything these days.

[BigWayne]

According to this Dana O'Neil article, it was 17 feet, 9 inches when the ACC experimented with it before it was permanently adopted:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ege-basketball

Someone else can confirm.

Gotta admit, that is considerably shorter than the 19 feet 9 inches it became ... and now it's even longer.

Still terrific shooting given that it's 100% a jump shot (many great overall shooting %ages are built on a combo of jump shots and layups/slams). But if the 17' 9" is right, you can't really compare it to much of anything these days.

17'9" is correct. This combined with the shot clock that year is one of the reasons State won the NCAA Championship. Compared to the rest of college hoops, the ACC conference games were track meets. The ACC teams had much more depth and stamina than most non-ACC teams as a result.

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[ipatent]

Chip would have shot a very respectable percentage with today's three point distance. Keep in mind there weren't a lot of other effective scorers on his teams making space for him.

[luvdahops]

Chip would have shot a very respectable percentage with today's three point distance. Keep in mind there weren't a lot of other effective scorers on his teams making space for him.

Agreed. Chip's stroke was as pure as they come. It was fun watching him sink jumpers from several rows up in the bleachers during pre-game shootarounds.

[Olympic Fan]

I believe Chip made second team All-ACC in that one year he played with the three point shot.

No ... that was 1983 and freshman Johnny Dawkins was the only Duke player honored -- and he was the last guy picked on the second team.

Chip averaged a career best 12.2 in 1983. He was spectacular from deep -- hitting 41 of 74 e-point tries (55.4 percent). Duke shot 42.6 percent as a team and still finished 11-17 (3-11 ACC).

BTW: Chip also hit 89.1 from the FT line that season (84.8 for his career).

[luvdahops]

No ... that was 1983 and freshman Johnny Dawkins was the only Duke player honored -- and he was the last guy picked on the second team.

Chip averaged a career best 12.2 in 1983. He was spectacular from deep -- hitting 41 of 74 e-point tries (55.4 percent). Duke shot 42.6 percent as a team and still finished 11-17 (3-11 ACC).

BTW: Chip also hit 89.1 from the FT line that season (84.8 for his career).

Chip never made All-ACC, and he actually averaged more ppg (15.2) as a junior in 1982. 1983 was arguably a better season overall though, as his 12.2 ppg came in 21.5 minutes, versus 37.3 the year before. The shooting percentages for both years were comparable.