what about the advantages as a result of these athletes being kept eligible? isn't it a loss of institutional control?
Very disappointing, but again, not surprising. Point all the fingers at "advisors" and spare all coaches and athletic administrators any culpability whatsoever. Put it all in a long, wordy report to make it seem like a thorough job. Announce that you got rid of those few rotten apple advisors and proceed as usual. Nothing new. And as we all know, the unc faithful will buy this hook, line, and sinker. I doubt the NCAA will do anything either. Disgusting.
what about the advantages as a result of these athletes being kept eligible? isn't it a loss of institutional control?
Given the start in 1993, I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about the head basketball coach and the athletic director who were in charge then. I was convinced that the report would try to avoid any hint of the Dean years and the Swofford years. Interesting...
FROM report:
"Williams, Holladay and Walden brought the same oversight process they had used in Kansas.
Walden focused on keeping up with the players’ classes and monitoring their eligibility. He provided
regular reports about academic progress to Holladay, who would counsel and/or discipline players
with academic issues. Holladay, in turn, reported to Williams on the general status of player
academics.
Walden acknowledged knowing about irregular aspects of the paper classes, including that
Crowder was doing at least some of the paper grading. When asked whether he shared this
information with Coaches Holladay or Williams, he could not recall doing so. Both of the coaches
claim that they never learned from Walden or anyone else that there was a question about faculty
involvement in the classes or that Debby Crowder was doing the grading."
In those "regular reports," what were Williams, Holladay and Walden discussing?
If Walden was so trusted and knew of the fraudulent classes; why did he not alert Williams?
Since Walden appears to be complicit in that he knew, but chose remain silent; will he be fired or disciplined?
Walden..."He could not recall doing so." That is NOT the same as "I did NOT!"
Maybe one of the nine that have been "terminated or disciplined" will now come forth with something juicy for the NCAA. Without a job to protect, they may enjoy some freedom.
Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."
From N&O website: "Folt declined to identify the nine employees being terminated or under disciplinary review, citing personnel laws."
The story is spreading rather quickly through local and national media, as I've now seen it on msn, yahoo, espn, business insider.
Among the several issues involved in what Chancellor Folt today openly acknowledged was both an academic and athletic scandal, our attention has and will presumably continue to be drawn to the two largest: whether UNC will be able to overcome the hypocrisy of "the Carolina Way" to reestablish its stature as a first-rate university, and whether the NCAA will see fit to sanction the bball program for failure of oversight.
On what most here will see as a minor issue -- but one which will cause no little embarrassment among UNC faculty -- Wainstein specifically named recent UNC Faculty Chair Jan Boxill as having direct knowledge of what was going on. To quote the Wainstein Report: "Jan Boxill was fully aware of the lax work requirements and grading standards in the paper classes and that Crowder played a substantive and substantial role in the classes and the grading."
It's actually worse, as this article re the W Report summarizes:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...n-boxill.html#.
Don't know exactly what disciplinary action will be forthcoming. Possibly fired for ethical lapses, presumably her, um, specialty.
I think the public take on this, outside the control of UNC spin, will play an important part on whether the NCAA's hand is forced here. And, FWIW, Yahoo does not read well for the Heels:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...181214478.html
(Only one I checked so far because someone sent it to me)
Lot of good stuff in the report for the NCAA to work with if they pull their heads out of the sand....
Page 62...
Impact Analysis Findings
A total of 2,152 individual students who enrolled in the paper classes were included in this impact analysis. Of that number, 329 students (including 169 student-athletes) had at least one semester in which the grade they received in their paper class either pushed or kept their GPA above 2.0. In other words, for at least one semester in their college career, each of those students had an actual cumulative GPA above a 2.0 but a recalculated GPA (excluding the paper class grade(s))below a 2.0. This number includes 123 football players, 15 men’s basketball players, eight women’s basketball players, and 26 Olympic sport athletes. Of that number, we identified 81 students who earned degrees from Chapel Hill whose recalculated final GPA excluding the grade(s) from their paper class or classes was less than the 2.0 required to graduate.
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Men’s Basketball Personnel
Chapel Hill had four different head men’s basketball coaches during the period in which the AFAM paper courses were offered. During the Dean Smith era (1961-1997), there were 54 basketball player enrollments in AFAM independent studies. In the three years of Coach Bill Guthridge’s tenure (1997-2000), there were 17 basketball enrollments in paper classes. There were 42 enrollments in paper classes under Coach Matt Doherty (2000-2003) and 167 under Coach Roy Williams (2003-present).
Dean Smith -- 4 years, 54 enrollments (13.5 per year on a roster of 15 players)
Guthridge -- 3 years, 17 enrollments (just under 6 per year)
Doherty -- 3 years, 42 enrollments (14 per year)
Ol' Roy -- 11 years, 167 enrollments (15+ per year)
Did Guthridge know something and do something about it, or did the research miss a bunch of classes? The numbers for the other 3 coaches are remarkably consistent. An average of 1 phony class per player per year.
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