Duke STILL at the bottom of the TV barrel

[budwom]

The utterly boneheaded preseason ranking of UNC has precisely nothing to do with how justified (or not) our current ranking is.

[OldPhiKap]

explain to me how UNC earned a preseason top 25 ranking and we didn't?

Lazy journalism; rankings based on perceived strength of recruiting; UNC starting poorly (again) under Fedora; and us generally sucking for two decades before Cut came.

We could win the Coastal again this year, and there will be folks who pick us in the bottom third again next year. And as KL suggests, a good bit of that is homerism.

UNC was clearly picked too high, but they have a lot of talent and are better than their record indicates IMO. They are a dangerous team.

We are probably too low, but we have no one to blame but ourselves given the poor performance we had in prime time against Miami. A solid win next week might change that perception too.

Rankings are nice, but our record is more important. Just win, and let everything else take care of itself.

[budwom]

Lazy journalism; rankings based on perceived strength of recruiting; UNC starting poorly (again) under Fedora; and us generally sucking for two decades before Cut came.

We could win the Coastal again this year, and there will be folks who pick us in the bottom third again next year. And as KL suggests, a good bit of that is homerism.

UNC was clearly picked too high, but they have a lot of talent and are better than their record indicates IMO. They are a dangerous team.

We are probably too low, but we have no one to blame but ourselves given the poor performance we had in prime time against Miami. A solid win next week might change that perception too.

Rankings are nice, but our record is more important. Just win, and let everything else take care of itself.

splendid summary; I agree with every point. Winning will take care of any inequity. Would also add we had a weak early schedule (which I think is a good idea)...

[msdukie]

This is one way to get on television. Future Notre Dame-ACC matchups announced.

Yeah, but now someone will start complaining that the NBC broadcasts in 2016 and 2020 appear biased against Duke.

[aimo]

Last ones we'll be serving this year; I was up til 12:30am making those things! (Although they did a nice job of disappearing.)

Back to the more important food issue: do you make the burritos up ahead of time, or just bring the filling and everyone makes them up there? I can see the advantages of both . . .

[johnb]

Success and eyeballs go hand in hand (hmmm. not sure about that metaphor), but Duke hoops is constantly on tv mainly because we have been the country's favorite basketball team every year for the past 5 years. And, for reference sake, we were also the country's favorite in 1993, 2003, and 2007 (the other years aren't listed): http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...rris-Poll.aspx.

I agree that football's empty seats are a problem: the intensity of Cameron makes casual fans more likely to want to see the game on tv, I'd think, and actually make the exact same game more exciting. Lots of the big state schools are having attendance problems as well, but it's good theater to show tv games with a backdrop of 100,000 Michigan faithful rather a smallish crowd on the visitor side of WW. And it also didn't help that our marquee game of the year so far was our worst-played game (aided by it being one of Miami's best games). If, instead, our 2014 early-season marquee game had been last year's A&M game or the first half of the FSU game, we'd be on the list for ABC games and not shifting between ESPNU and ACC networks.

Nevertheless, the trajectory of the wins, fan support, and tv exposure are all astonishing, and I don't think we need to get overly bummed out. Build it, and they will come...

[Duvall]

If you were hoping that the Virginia Tech game would avoid a noon kickoff, you can probably stop doing that.

[ricks68]

He had a lot of assistants (assistance, too). And I mean A LOT. BTW, where were you? You could have helped us.

Maybe, just maybe, I hope to have some Cold Mountain brew for the burritos for my food contribution. If not, at least a growler from One World Brewing---an incredible Saison (out of season, but too good to pass up) or an Imperial Stout.

ricks

[devildeac]

Maybe, just maybe, I hope to have some Cold Mountain brew for the burritos for my food contribution. If not, at least a growler from One World Brewing---an incredible Saison (out of season, but too good to pass up) or an Imperial Stout.

ricks

You'll be greeted with highly appreciative open arms and open mouths.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Back to the more important food issue: do you make the burritos up ahead of time, or just bring the filling and everyone makes them up there? I can see the advantages of both . . .

I made them the night before. Serving 100 people "short order cook" style would have been a nightmare. I used 54 eggs, 8 pounds of sausage, 8 pounds of shredded cheese (in the stuffing), 2 onions and 3 green peppers. I made 80 burritos, using the large tortillas. They were all topped with salsa and more cheese, and heated in pans on our grill. Eight 10 x 13 pans held 10 burritos each.

I also made 64 stuffed tomatoes. These are popular, but also time consuming. Core out a tomato (buy them in 4 packs for easy transport) and stuff them with...stuffing! One pat of butter on the bottom, one on top, and after about 45 minutes on the grill top them with shredded cheese.
StuffedMater.jpg

[devildeac]

I made them the night before. Serving 100 people "short order cook" style would have been a nightmare. I used 54 eggs, 8 pounds of sausage, 8 pounds of shredded cheese (in the stuffing), 2 onions and 3 green peppers. I made 80 burritos, using the large tortillas. They were all topped with salsa and more cheese, and heated in pans on our grill. Eight 10 x 13 pans held 10 burritos each.

I also made 64 stuffed tomatoes. These are popular, but also time consuming. Core out a tomato (buy them in 4 packs for easy transport) and stuff them with...stuffing! One pat of butter on the bottom, one on top, and after about 45 minutes on the grill top them with shredded cheese.
StuffedMater.jpg

And he's not just blowing charcoal smoke up your trousers, either. Both items described above were very, very good.

[CameronBornAndBred]

We all knew it was coming, but it's now official.
We'll be hosting the Turkey Bowl at noon on the 15th, ESPNU.
Bright side, Pitt's Conner will be running all over the UNC defense at 12:30.

http://www.theacc.com/#!/news-detail...-15-11-03-2014

[SCMatt33]

We all knew it was coming, but it's now official.
We'll be hosting the Turkey Bowl at noon on the 15th, ESPNU.
Bright side, Pitt's Conner will be running all over the UNC defense at 12:30.

http://www.theacc.com/#!/news-detail...-15-11-03-2014

Makes sense to me. Above Pitt-UNC and NCSU-Wake in the pecking order, below GT-Clemson and FSU-Miami. Both of those games involve two upper tier teams. Ours only has one.

[Nugget]

We all knew it was coming, but it's now official.
We'll be hosting the Turkey Bowl at noon on the 15th, ESPNU.
Bright side, Pitt's Conner will be running all over the UNC defense at 12:30.

http://www.theacc.com/#!/news-detail...-15-11-03-2014

Since we've got a short turnaround with the N. Carolina game Thursday the 20th, the earliest possible start for the Va Tech game is probably better for the team.

[arnie]

We all knew it was coming, but it's now official.
We'll be hosting the Turkey Bowl at noon on the 15th, ESPNU.
Bright side, Pitt's Conner will be running all over the UNC defense at 12:30.

http://www.theacc.com/#!/news-detail...-15-11-03-2014

Have they moved the UNC game at Duke to Thursday at noon yet?

[Olympic Fan]

Since we've got a short turnaround with the N. Carolina game Thursday the 20th, the earliest possible start for the Va Tech game is probably better for the team.

Another reason to accept the disappointing noon starting time on the 15th: We have a home basketball game with Fairfield at 8 pm

A prime time game would be impossible -- even a 3:30 pm game would have created major parting problems.

[budwom]

I can promise you that a noon start has to please the folks in the athletic and safety departments who struggle with traffic on the easiest of occasions.
If we had a 3:30 football game (which wouldn't end until around 7) the overlap with the 8pm hoop game would have created some serious problems.
Perhaps it shouldn't be that way, but it is. Traffic control has been much improved over the past several seasons, but is still mediocre to poor. I (somewhat) fondly
recall decades ago when NC state cops handled traffic, and they were organized and efficient. The current Duke folks are well intentioned but do some
hopelessly inane things.

I think national TV at noon works out well for us, anyway. Obviously the Miami-Florida Penal Colony game deserves the night slot...maybe I'm alone, but I think the noon
slot gives us arguably more visibility than competing with a number of high profile 3:30 games....I went to a party on Saturday and a number of people told me they saw part
of our game or saw the highlights during other games...

[Duvall]

Another reason to accept the disappointing noon starting time on the 15th: We have a home basketball game with Fairfield at 8 pm

A prime time game would be impossible -- even a 3:30 pm game would have created major parting problems.

A prime-time game would have been possible; they just would have moved the basketball game start time.

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Another reason to accept the disappointing noon starting time on the 15th: We have a home basketball game with Fairfield at 8 pm

A prime time game would be impossible -- even a 3:30 pm game would have created major parting problems.

All of this is true. I'm going to make a prediction and all y'all can laugh at it now.

The day is coming when there will be more scheduling conflicts between football and men's basketball. At some point the shift is going to be toward the priority being when the football game is to start. This may be like plate tectonics to some, but that is what the future holds for the months of November and December.

[Duvall]

All of this is true. I'm going to make a prediction and all y'all can laugh at it now.

The day is coming when there will be more scheduling conflicts between football and men's basketball. At some point the shift is going to be toward the priority being when the football game is to start. This may be like plate tectonics to some, but that is what the future holds for the months of November and December.

That time was three months ago - the Fairfield game is untelevised because of the need to maintain flexibility for the football game.