2014 NBA Summer League

[Furniture]

I watched the first half and he didn't shoot very well but overall you could see that he had good intensity. Maybe he was a little nervous? Anyway, at one point he got the ball a called for a screen which is something I had never seen him do at Duke. Its on my DVR so I will definitely watch the second half. It will be interesting to see how Houston turned it around.

[awhom111]

Thursday's Schedule for the Second Round (times EDT, games will be shown on NBATV, but listings seem unreliable based on Wednesday):
4:00pm 8 Sacramento vs 24 Minnesota
4:30pm 7 New Orleans vs 23 Charlotte
6:00pm 6 Portland vs 22 Atlanta
6:30pm 5 Utah vs 12 San Antonio
8:00pm 4 Washington vs 13 Miami
8:30pm 3 Cleveland vs 14 Houston
10:00pm 2 New York vs 15 D League Select
10:30pm 1 Chicago vs 16 Philadelphia

Alert: They ended up flipping these game times so the ones listed starting at :00 are now at :30 and the ones listed starting at :30 are now half an hour earlier.

[awhom111]

Thursday's Second Round as losers end their tournament on Friday and winners move on to Saturday's quarterfinals:

In the battle of Hornets, Charlotte beat New Orleans 104-75.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/CHANOP/gameinfo.html

Sacramento beat Minnesota 100-86.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/MINSAC/gameinfo.html

Rodney had 19 points in 29 minutes in Utah's 86-77 loss to San Antonio.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/SASUTA/gameinfo.html

Atlanta beat Portland 88-65.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/ATLPOR/gameinfo.html

Andre did not have a very good 13 minutes in Houston's 96-90 win over Cleveland.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/HOUCLE/gameinfo.html

Washington beat Miami 78-67.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/MIAWAS/gameinfo.html

Lance had 6 points and 6 rebounds in 28 minutes as Chicago beat Philadelphia 79-68.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/PH...#nbaGIboxscore

New York beat the D League Select Team 80-73.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140717/DL...#nbaGIboxscore

Here is the alleged schedule as teams eliminated Wednesday play the early slots and teams eliminated Thursday play the late slots. Games will be televised but given the schedule flux recently, I am not posting what they have right now.
4:00pm 9 Phoenix vs 10 Dallas
4:30pm 11 Golden State vs 21 Milwaukee
6:00pm 19 Toronto vs 20 Los Angeles Clippers
6:30pm 17 Los Angeles Lakers vs 18 Denver Nuggets
8:00pm 23 New Orleans vs 24 Minnesota
8:30pm 5 Utah vs 6 Portland
10:00pm 3 Cleveland vs 13 Miami
10:30pm 15 D League Select vs 16 Philadelphia

[ice-9]

Wait. What if you had to throw in one of the biggest draft mistakes of the past decade as well? Would that change your thinking?

I don't know, whoever fits the bill is probably past his prime. No way he's 25...

[kAzE]

Hey, the Bucks finally got a W over the Warriors behind Jabari's best game of the summer league thus far: He had 20 points, 15 boards, and 2 assists in 30 minutes. He played extremely well down the stretch when it was a close game, with a big reverse jam and a tough floater where somebody (I think James McAdoo) definitely hacked him. He looked like he still had some juice in him late in the 4th, so maybe he's finally eating right.

[dukelifer]

Hey, the Bucks finally got a W over the Warriors behind Jabari's best game of the summer league thus far: He had 20 points, 15 boards, and 2 assists in 30 minutes. He played extremely well down the stretch when it was a close game, with a big reverse jam and a tough floater where somebody (I think James McAdoo) definitely hacked him. He looked like he still had some juice in him late in the 4th, so maybe he's finally eating right.

In the last game two days ago he was dragging - last man up the court and had no lift in his jumper. He got a little rest and it probably helped.

[awhom111]

Friday's Consolation Round games as 16 teams ended their campaigns:

Seth had a rough day playing 18 minutes in Phoenix's 88-62 loss to Dallas. Miles did not play as he was one of a number of players shut down for their last games with not much to play for.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/DALPHX/gameinfo.html

Jabari ended his tournament on a brighter note with 20 points and 15 rebounds in 30 minutes as Milwaukee beat Golden State 79-74.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/MILGSW/gameinfo.html

Toronto's 3 Brazilian lineup ended with a 64-60 win over the Los Angeles Clippers 64-60.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/LACTOR/gameinfo.html

The Los Angeles Lakers beat Denver 83-77.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/DENLAL/gameinfo.html

Because all of the players playing their last games in Las Vegas want more basketball instead of going out on the town, the D League Select and Philadelphia headed to overtime with the Select team winning 91-87.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/PHIDLS/gameinfo.html

Rodney had 7 points in 28 minutes as Utah beat Portland 75-73.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/PORUTA/gameinfo.html

Minnesota beat New Orleans 97-78.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/MINNOP/gameinfo.html

Start the rumor mill with Cleveland resting the last two overall first picks and beating Miami 95-90.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140718/MIACLE/gameinfo.html
Saturday's Quarterfinals (times EDT, all live on NBATV):
4:00pm 2 New York vs 23 Charlotte
6:00pm 14 Houston vs 22 Atlanta
8:00pm 1 Chicago vs 8 Sacramento
10:00pm 12 San Antonio vs 4 Washington

[Here is a Turtle]

I am enjoying summer league far more than I think I should. I think this tournament format was a good move.

[awhom111]

All of the quarterfinals were played on Saturday.

Charlotte continued to win as they held off New York 82-79.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140719/CHANYK/gameinfo.html

Andre had 12 points in 14 minutes as Houston beat Atlanta 78-71.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140719/ATLHOU/gameinfo.html

Lance had 2 points in 17 minutes in Chicago's 80-61 loss to Sacramento.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140719/SACCHI/gameinfo.html

The final game was a thriller as Washington prevailed in triple overtime 95-94 over San Antonio.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140719/SASWAS/gameinfo.html

Sunday's Semifinals (times EDT, all live on NBATV):
6:00pm 14 Houston vs 23 Charlotte
8:00pm 4 Washington vs 8 Sacramento

[awhom111]

The semifinals were both on Sunday.
Andre and Houston stopped Charlotte's surprise tournament run 83-79. Andre had 6 points in 18 minutes.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140720/CHAHOU/gameinfo.html

Sacramento prevented Washington from going unbeaten after a 74-62 win.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140720/SACWAS/gameinfo.html

Those two teams conclude the summer league on Monday at 9:30pm EDT on NBATV. Oddly enough the MVP and first and second team honors were already decided today:
http://www.nba.com/2014/news/07/20/a...ams/index.html

[sagegrouse]

The semifinals were both on Sunday.
Andre and Houston stopped Charlotte's surprise tournament run 83-79. Andre had 6 points in 18 minutes.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140720/CHAHOU/gameinfo.html

Sacramento prevented Washington from going unbeaten after a 74-62 win.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140720/SACWAS/gameinfo.html

Those two teams conclude the summer league on Monday at 9:30pm EDT on NBATV. Oddly enough the MVP and first and second team honors were already decided today:
http://www.nba.com/2014/news/07/20/a...ams/index.html

FWIW, Parker, Hood and Wiggins did not receive honors.

[awhom111]

We now have a conclusion as Sacramento makes the late run to beat Andre and Houston 77-68. Andre finished with 5 points in 22 minutes.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140721/HOUSAC/gameinfo.html

Now Seth and Andre have some decisions to make about what to do for the upcoming season.

[dukelifer]

We now have a conclusion as Sacramento makes the late run to beat Andre and Houston 77-68. Andre finished with 5 points in 22 minutes.
Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/games/20140721/HOUSAC/gameinfo.html

Now Seth and Andre have some decisions to make about what to do for the upcoming season.

Andre did not really take advantage of this opportunity to impress. He did not shoot well in the last few games and had his troubles on D. Fatigue/conditioning was an issue. He will likely play in the D league. It will come to how much he wants it. Seth could make an NBA team but he might have a longer career in Europe which values his skillset.

[awhom111]

Andre did not really take advantage of this opportunity to impress. He did not shoot well in the last few games and had his troubles on D. Fatigue/conditioning was an issue. He will likely play in the D league. It will come to how much he wants it. Seth could make an NBA team but he might have a longer career in Europe which values his skillset.

Andre was inconsistent, but he did get lots of chances, so he should be able to get an indication of whether any teams might be interested in a training camp deal, from which point the D League might be a good option. Of course overseas play is an option, where he might benefit from a more structured offense that will get him good shot opportunities, but that would more likely than not put off any chance of playing his way into a 10 day NBA deal for this season.

Seth may be more willing to stick around the D League and take any NBA opportunities that come his way. Between his partial guarantee for training camp with the Warriors (reportedly $75,000) and a few 10 day contracts, Seth made more than enough money to live on for a year. Since he is not in a position where he absolutely needs to maximize his earnings to take care of family or anything like that, he actually has a decent quality of life situation in this country. Either he is on an NBA contract or he plays for Santa Cruz. When Santa Cruz and Golden State have relatively synced up schedules, his brother can come see him play and vice versa and his mother is usually around too. Overseas play means being away from family and friends even in cases where the money is better (assuming they pay you on time). While he is still a fringe NBA player, the money he makes now is probably enough for him to live as he likes.

[Kedsy]

Andre did not really take advantage of this opportunity to impress. He did not shoot well in the last few games and had his troubles on D. Fatigue/conditioning was an issue. He will likely play in the D league. It will come to how much he wants it. Seth could make an NBA team but he might have a longer career in Europe which values his skillset.

For what it's worth, in Andre's 12 summer league games he averaged 19.5 points per 36 minutes (in 18.2 mpg), better than Seth's 16.9 points per 36 (in 10 games, 21.3 mpg). Due to Andre's late-season shooting slump, Seth outshot Andre percentagewise, 43.4% to 35.4%, but the two had almost identical points per shot (Andre pps = 1.204; Seth pps = 1.205), ironically because Andre got to the free throw line better than Seth did.

I think they're both long shots to open the season with an NBA team, but either of them could catch on in the right situation.

[dukelifer]

For what it's worth, in Andre's 12 summer league games he averaged 19.5 points per 36 minutes (in 18.2 mpg), better than Seth's 16.9 points per 36 (in 10 games, 21.3 mpg). Due to Andre's late-season shooting slump, Seth outshot Andre percentagewise, 43.4% to 35.4%, but the two had almost identical points per shot (Andre pps = 1.204; Seth pps = 1.205), ironically because Andre got to the free throw line better than Seth did.

I think they're both long shots to open the season with an NBA team, but either of them could catch on in the right situation.

He had a few nice games and moments. He showed he could play but struggled at the end. Turnovers and lapses D were issues. A year in the D league will help him.

[howardlander]

He had a few nice games and moments. He showed he could play but struggled at the end. Turnovers and lapses D were issues. A year in the D league will help him.

I happened to catch a fair amount of Dawkins in the summer league. He did look tired but one thing I noticed is that the Houston coach seemed to have a bit of a strange rotation pattern. I saw one game where I think Dawkins actually played the entire second half. Overall, I didn't get the feeling he would make a roster, but his defense wasn't as bad as I feared. On offense it seemed to me he lacks either confidence or motor. When he cut hard and moved aggressively good things happened, but he seemed to stand around a lot.

Howard

[FerryFor50]

He had a few nice games and moments. He showed he could play but struggled at the end. Turnovers and lapses D were issues. A year in the D league will help him.

Turnovers and lapses on D were issues for nearly every single player in summer league. Jabari, for example, averaged 5 turnovers per game.

Glen Rice Jr averaged 3 turnovers per game.

Andrew Wiggins averaged 2.75 turnovers.

[awhom111]

The player whose future is still up in the air that I forgot to mention was Lance Thomas.

An NBA team could still take a chance on him as a role player. It is good that he was able to have a solid season in China filling in for Shav, because he can probably return there if he wants to. There is always the D League route, although he may not be considered a "prospect" at this point, which would mean overseas becomes a better option. The benefit to playing in China, especially since he would likely play for one of the non-playoff level teams, is that his season can end quicker than the European ones and an NBA team might want to sign him late in the season as an extended tryout. That is how Shav has managed to grab his last two NBA contracts.

[dukelifer]

Turnovers and lapses on D were issues for nearly every single player in summer league. Jabari, for example, averaged 5 turnovers per game.

Glen Rice Jr averaged 3 turnovers per game.

Andrew Wiggins averaged 2.75 turnovers.

True - but Jabari and Wiggins are already in the league. Andre is on the outside looking in. Still Andre had a couple big games and may get some interest but he will need to prove himself. You have to impress when you get the chance.