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    2014 USA Teams Not Coached by a Duke Coach Thread

    I figured I would just do a catch-all thread for the various USA youth teams.

    Tyus and Justise as well as Luke Kennard are among the 21 players who will be in training camp in mid-June to fight for spots on the U18 team which will then compete in the U18 FIBA Americas Championship (all taking place in Colorado Springs).
    Story:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/14_mu18..._invitees.html
    Roster:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/roster.html
    Schedule:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/schedule.html

    You would have to figure that there is at least one future Duke Women's Basketball player somewhere in this list of 162 players trying out for the U17 Girl's team:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u17/roster.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    I figured I would just do a catch-all thread for the various USA youth teams.

    Tyus and Justise as well as Luke Kennard are among the 21 players who will be in training camp in mid-June to fight for spots on the U18 team which will then compete in the U18 FIBA Americas Championship (all taking place in Colorado Springs).
    Story:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/14_mu18..._invitees.html
    Roster:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/roster.html
    Schedule:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/schedule.html

    You would have to figure that there is at least one future Duke Women's Basketball player somewhere in this list of 162 players trying out for the U17 Girl's team:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u17/roster.html
    Thanks for the links and the thread.

    Billy Donovan has certainly built up equity in the USA Program. Because of the duration of the NBA season, it makes sense that a college guy is a good fit for the top job. I'd have to think that if the USA Basketball honchos, Colangelo specifically is he keeps the Chairman job, decide to stick with a college coach, then Donovan would be the natural choice based on his vast experience.

    Reading the article, I had no idea that the younger age groups hold developmental camps in the summers when there are no tournaments. They have really redesigned the whole program in a very smart way. They are consistently attracting the best players AND the best coaches. Sean Miller is one of Donovan's assistants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Dat View Post
    Thanks for the links and the thread.

    Billy Donovan has certainly built up equity in the USA Program. Because of the duration of the NBA season, it makes sense that a college guy is a good fit for the top job. I'd have to think that if the USA Basketball honchos, Colangelo specifically is he keeps the Chairman job, decide to stick with a college coach, then Donovan would be the natural choice based on his vast experience.

    Reading the article, I had no idea that the younger age groups hold developmental camps in the summers when there are no tournaments. They have really redesigned the whole program in a very smart way. They are consistently attracting the best players AND the best coaches. Sean Miller is one of Donovan's assistants.
    I'm still hoping Popovich gets a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSDukeFan View Post
    I'm still hoping Popovich gets a shot.
    Pops will be 71 by the time the 2020 Olympics roll around. My guess is that they hire someone with an eye towards at least two cycles. There is still plenty of time for the younger candidates to prove themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    Pops will be 71 by the time the 2020 Olympics roll around. My guess is that they hire someone with an eye towards at least two cycles. There is still plenty of time for the younger candidates to prove themselves.
    Talk is talk, but here's what's working against Pop.

    -Pop says he's going to retire when Duncan retires
    -I think Colangelo and K have both said that the Team USA Coach needs to be an active coach
    -Pop and Colangelo have a pretty spotty track record with each other

    All that being said, I think Pop would be a fantastic candidate, probably the best candidate. I, too, would like to see him do it. If he is retired, it eliminates the NBA schedule conflicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Dat View Post
    Talk is talk, but here's what's working against Pop.

    -Pop says he's going to retire when Duncan retires
    -I think Colangelo and K have both said that the Team USA Coach needs to be an active coach
    -Pop and Colangelo have a pretty spotty track record with each other

    All that being said, I think Pop would be a fantastic candidate, probably the best candidate. I, too, would like to see him do it. If he is retired, it eliminates the NBA schedule conflicts.
    awhom111 makes a great point about his age. The one additional thing in his favor is the respect he would command from the players. I would expect that only he, K, Phil Jackson would universally be able to command that level of respect from the players, though at that level and the way coach K and Colangelo have built up the program, I would expect the players to be quite coachable.

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    To bring back the conversation to this summer, here is all of the information on the Women's U18 team trials:
    Roster:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u18/roster.html
    Story:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u18/14_wu18_invitees.html
    Schedule:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u18/schedule.html

    Unlike on the Men's side, these players will have the tryouts first and then re-convene for the tournament much later. This will help our 3 incoming players solidify their summer schedules soon. Also of note, U17 tryout players may be asked to be a part of this team as well. Of the 28 players listed, 27 of them are only available for the U18 team while 1 player is young enough to be on the U17 team, but is only listed on this tryout list and not the one for the younger team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSDukeFan View Post
    awhom111 makes a great point about his age. The one additional thing in his favor is the respect he would command from the players. I would expect that only he, K, Phil Jackson would universally be able to command that level of respect from the players, though at that level and the way coach K and Colangelo have built up the program, I would expect the players to be quite coachable.
    Although it seems like Billy Donovan has been coaching the junior teams for a while now, so maybe the players that will be on the 2020 and 2024 Olympic squads are already familiar with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duvall View Post
    Although it seems like Billy Donovan has been coaching the junior teams for a while now, so maybe the players that will be on the 2020 and 2024 Olympic squads are already familiar with him?
    Probably true. I am picturing guys like LeBron, Durant, Carmelo having more respect for Popovich, but they may not be the main guys in 2020.

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    The Coach of Team USA depends, I suppose, on what Colangelo and Krzyzewski think is needed. After the debacle of the Larry-Brown-coached 2004 team, the powers-that-be, including Colangelo, decided they needed a coach who could build a program for the National Team as well as coach it. As many others remember, Dean Smith was the guy that said that K was the only college coach who could do that. And he did: he visited every one of the eligible NBA stars and got their commitment to Team USA; he developed the concept of a 25-person national team, upon which the Olympic team and the FIBA team could draw and that would practice every year in some form. He, so far, has been hugely successful.

    Will Team USA decide that it needs another program builder or can it primarily look for a coach? K is a unique case and individual, with his executive skills, and I don't necessarily think that a college coach would be a likely choice. K will have coached three Olympic and three FIBA teams. If that's a desirable pattern, then a younger coach would be an obvious choice. But there is no reason that the next coach has to be around for more than one cycle.
    Sage Grouse

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    Duke commit Faith Suggs survives the first big cut at the U17 trials as they went from 145 to 70 in one fell swoop:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u17/roster.html

    Both the U17 and U18 teams should be finalized over the next few days.

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    Faith also made the cut from 70 to 46.

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    Unfortunately, after both the U17 and U18 Girls' trials, we will have no representation on the playing side for either team. Summer McKeehan will be the trainer for the U17 team at least.

    U17:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u17/14_wu...ouncement.html
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u17/roster.html

    U18:
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u18/14_wu18_team.html
    http://www.usab.com/womens/u18/roster.html

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    One interesting type of basketball that does not get much coverage is 3 on 3 (3x3 if you want to use the official parlance). The championships are taking place in Russia right now. USA Basketball was not about to use this as a diplomatic mission, so Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, who was part of the team that won the qualifying tournament was replaced by a player who is not also an active Cabinet member. The men's team is 2-1 after one day. It would have been cool to see some more interesting names in the US championship to compete for this spot, but the timing was not really right for pro players and college guys did not seem interested. Some kind of Tyler Thornton, Josh Hairston, and some other guy team would have been fun to root for (Seth Curry? Todd Zafirovski? Nate James?). The US Women's team is undefeated after two games with four college players of varying levels of stardom make up the team.
    http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/14/.../schedule.html

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    After pool play in the 3X3 World Championships, the Men's team qualifies for the Round of 16 despite a 2-3 record. The Women also move on after winning all 5 of their games.

    Pools Play:
    http://russia2014.fiba.com/pages/eng...-standing.html
    Brackets for Playoffs:
    http://russia2014.fiba.com/pages/eng.../brackets.html

    I erred yesterday because Todd Zafirovski cannot play for a USA team and would only be allowed to represent Macedonia. Tyler, Josh, and Nate James it is.

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    The Men were eliminated in the Round of 16 19-15 by Serbia. The Women's team marches on after two more wins.

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    The Women's 3X3 team won the championship by defeating hosts Russia.

    Surprisingly in the men's tournament, Qatar won something with no apparent bribes involved as they also had the help of naturalized player Boney Watson, who went to Sam Houston State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    The Women's 3X3 team won the championship by defeating hosts Russia.

    Surprisingly in the men's tournament, Qatar won something with no apparent bribes involved as they also had the help of naturalized player Boney Watson, who went to Sam Houston State.
    The ACC (as it is now) was well represented on this championship team, with Jewell Lloyd of Notre Dame and Sara Hammond of Louisville on the team. So we will have a chance to see both these players next season.

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    Article that features Tyus and Justise:
    http://www.usab.com/mens/u18/14_mu18..._veterans.html

    Pictures of our guys in action, including Luke Kennard:



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    USA Teams in Other Sports

    Technically, this probably isn't the right thread for this information, since none of it pertains to basketball--but it does pertain to USA teams not coached by a Duke grad, and Duke participants on those teams. And I'm not sure it merits its own thread.

    The US women's field hockey team, including former Duke star Stephanie Fee, won their pool and has reached the semifinals of the Women's World Cup, where they will face Australia tomorrow. It may be going too far to say this was an upset, but they did beat some teams with higher world rankings in their pool.

    The US men's lacrosse team that will play in this summer's world championship features two Duke grads, Ned Crotty and Dave Lawson. The team will face the Major League Lacrosse All-Stars on June 26 in Harvard Stadium; the All-Star team includes Duke grads Matt Danowski (also a Duke assistant coach), Mike Manley, and Justin Turri. There will be TV coverage on CBS Sports Network.

    The US women's lacrosse team will be holding tryouts for the 2014-15 team this weekend at Georgetown; among those selected for the tryout pool are Duke grads Sarah Bullard (2011) and Taylor Virden (2014) as well as undergrads Kerrin Maurer, Taylor Trimble, Gabrielle Moise, and Kelsey Duryea.

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