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  1. #1
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    Shot Selection

    I wanted to unpack our offense a little bit. This thread will focus on shot selection, another to follow will focus on assists. Everything is broken down according to the following shot types: 3s, layups, dunks, tip-ins, and 2pt jump shots (which is any 2 that is not a layup, dunk, or tip). I don't have access to the fancy SportsVU data, so this is less precise than I would prefer it to be (in an ideal world, I'd do a graphical plot, but this is not an ideal world). I'm at the whim of scorekeepers deciding what counts as a layup and what counts as a jump shot. Not every jump shot is a 15-footer, it includes many shots in the paint. If I had better data, I'd separate out the paint jumpers from the non-paint jumpers, but the scorebooks only record paint information when the shot is a make, not a miss.

    This first post will have our team data, and the subsequent posts will provide player information. I've broken it out into 3 segments - full season, non-ACC (pre-conference play plus Mercer), and ACC (all conference play, including the ACC tournament). However, because of issues with the game @UNC and the ACC championship game (specifically, the scorekeepers didn't distinguish between 2-point jumpers and layups, instead recording everything as a jumper) those games are excluded from the count so as not to skew the data and make it look like we took more 2-point jumpers than we actually did.

    Tables are below. A couple observations:

    • We scored, overall, 1.09 points per shot. That's pretty good. It was the best in the ACC, and among the best in the country.
    • We actually shot pretty well on 2-point jumpers, at 40%. It's not been unusual in the past for that number to be below the 3 point %. That being said, even shooting 40% meant that we picked up just 0.80 points per shot on 535 of our shots. On the other shots, we netted 1.20 points per shot. Every 3, layup, dunk, and tip-in, in the aggregate, was worth half again as much as every 2-point jumper.
    • Our shot distribution was good, but not great, and it got slightly worse against ACC opponents. We took 40.4% of our shots from 3, 31.4% from close in (layups, dunks, & tips), and 28.2% from all other spots inside the arc. In ACC play, we kept the jumpers reasonably low - 28.9%, but skewed more toward 3s than toward inside (41.5% deep, 29.6% close in). From pure statistical purposes, I'm not sure exactly what the ideal split is, but my gut sense is that I'd like 2 point jumpers closer to 25% or below with the other shots evenly split between 3s and close.
    • We left a lot of points on the floor from bad shooting on layups. We shot 55.5% on layups (54.6% if you include tips), which is really not great. Shooting 60% on layups and tips, which is attainable, would have yielded us an extra 52 points.
    • All of our ACC shooting was much worse than our non-ACC shooting. We went from shooting 44%/62.6%/41% (2pt jumpers, layups/dunks/tips, 3s) in pre-conference play to 37.2%/59.3%/38.6% against ACC opposition. Some regression is expected, both because of quality of opponent and because shooting a collective 42.2% on jump shots isn't really sustainable, but this was a big drop off.


    All
    2pt J 214 535 40.00%
    Layup 256 461 55.53%
    Dunk 96 109 88.07%
    Tip-in 9 24 37.50%
    3pt J 303 765 39.61%
    LD 352 570 61.75%
    LDT 361 594 60.77%
    Jump 517 1300 39.77%
    2s 575 1129 50.93%
    All 878 1894 46.36%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 98 223 43.95%
    Layup 128 221 57.92%
    Dunk 40 45 88.89%
    Tip-in 4 9 44.44%
    3pt J 130 317 41.01%
    LD 168 266 63.16%
    LDT 172 275 62.55%
    Jump 228 540 42.22%
    2s 270 498 54.22%
    All 400 815 49.08%

    ACC
    2pt J 116 312 37.18%
    Layup 128 240 53.33%
    Dunk 56 64 87.50%
    Tip-in 5 15 33.33%
    3pt J 173 448 38.62%
    LD 184 304 60.53%
    LDT 189 319 59.25%
    Jump 289 760 38.03%
    2s 305 631 48.34%
    All 478 1079 44.30%

    For the categories above that aren't obvious, LD is layups + dunks, LDT is layups + dunks + tip-ins, and Jump is 2pt jumpers + 3s. And, just a reminder, all numbers above and throughout this thread do not include @UNC or the ACCCG.
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    Jabari Shot Selection

    I'm torn on what I think about Jabari's ability to finish. In one sense, getting 58 dunks (almost 2/game) is strong finishing. In another sense, shooting 47.8% on layups very much is not. Lot's of room for improvement there - upping that to 60% is another ~30 points to Parker alone.

    Jabari's 3-point shooting - and jump shooting as a whole - fell off dramatically in ACC play. He hit 42.6% of his 3s and 45.2% of all jumpers in non-ACC play against 29.6% from 3 and 32.0% on all jumpers in ACC play.

    The other observation I have on Jabari is that, somewhat contrary to what I thought watching the games, his shot selection didn't really change over the season. In non-ACC play, he took 79/81/47 shots (2pt jumpers, close in, 3s); in ACC play it was 99/102/54. Slightly fewer 3s as a proportion of his attempts, but not really a different profile. He should aim for more of a 50/50 distribution.

    All
    2pt J 70 178 39.33%
    Layup 54 113 47.79%
    Dunk 58 64 90.63%
    Tip-in 2 6 33.33%
    3pt J 36 101 35.64%
    LD 112 177 63.28%
    LDT 114 183 62.30%
    Jump 106 279 37.99%
    2s 184 361 50.97%
    All 220 462 47.62%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 37 79 46.84%
    Layup 26 52 50.00%
    Dunk 22 26 84.62%
    Tip-in 1 3 33.33%
    3pt J 20 47 42.55%
    LD 48 78 61.54%
    LDT 49 81 60.49%
    Jump 57 126 45.24%
    2s 86 160 53.75%
    All 106 207 51.21%

    ACC
    2pt J 33 99 33.33%
    Layup 28 61 45.90%
    Dunk 36 38 94.74%
    Tip-in 1 3 33.33%
    3pt J 16 54 29.63%
    LD 64 99 64.65%
    LDT 65 102 63.73%
    Jump 49 153 32.03%
    2s 98 201 48.76%
    All 114 255 44.71%
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    Rodney Shot Selection

    No single player was more reliant on 2 point jump shots relative to total 2 point attempts than Hood, and only Dawkins and Thornton (who collectively took 5 of every 6 shots from 3) were more total jump shot heavy. He took roughly 1 in 5 of his shots from close in and was down around 1 in 6 in ACC play. For someone who lined up as our 4 for a not insignificant amount of minutes, that's simply not enough inside play. It also supports why he's being profiled as a 2 at the next level - his game is shooting moreso than getting to the rim.

    All
    2pt J 63 146 43.15%
    Layup 34 60 56.67%
    Dunk 14 16 87.50%
    Tip-in 1 1 100.00%
    3pt J 67 161 41.61%
    LD 48 76 63.16%
    LDT 49 77 63.64%
    Jump 130 307 42.35%
    2s 112 223 50.22%
    All 179 384 46.61%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 29 61 47.54%
    Layup 17 29 58.62%
    Dunk 6 6 100.00%
    Tip-in 1 1 100.00%
    3pt J 23 54 42.59%
    LD 23 35 65.71%
    LDT 24 36 66.67%
    Jump 52 115 45.22%
    2s 53 97 54.64%
    All 76 151 50.33%

    ACC
    2pt J 34 85 40.00%
    Layup 17 31 54.84%
    Dunk 8 10 80.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 44 107 41.12%
    LD 25 41 60.98%
    LDT 25 41 60.98%
    Jump 78 192 40.63%
    2s 59 126 46.83%
    All 103 233 44.21%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quinn Shot Selection

    Quinn was skewed toward 3s, but when he did venture inside the arc, he did it at the rim far more often than not - basically 3 layups for every 2 two point jumpers. He was also an excellent finisher for a small guard - nearly 60% on layups overall, although much better in non-ACC play (67%) than in conference (50%).

    All
    2pt J 19 50 38.00%
    Layup 48 81 59.26%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 61 166 36.75%
    LD 48 81 59.26%
    LDT 48 81 59.26%
    Jump 80 216 37.04%
    2s 67 131 51.15%
    All 128 297 43.10%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 11 25 44.00%
    Layup 29 43 67.44%
    Dunk 0.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 29 74 39.19%
    LD 29 43 67.44%
    LDT 29 43 67.44%
    Jump 40 99 40.40%
    2s 40 68 58.82%
    All 69 142 48.59%

    ACC
    2pt J 8 25 32.00%
    Layup 19 38 50.00%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 32 92 34.78%
    LD 19 38 50.00%
    LDT 19 38 50.00%
    Jump 40 117 34.19%
    2s 27 63 42.86%
    All 59 155 38.06%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Rasheed Shot Selection

    Rasheed has the reverse distribution from Quinn inside the arc - half again as many jumpers as close in shots. While he took far fewer 3s, hew was more jumpshot dependent than Quinn (78% vs. 72%).

    Some of the shot selection may have been performance driven - he was, considering volume, the worst finisher on the team, shooting 46.2% on layups overall and just 42.9% on them in ACC play. Finishing better, and choosing to go to the rim, more than pulling up, will be necessary for further growth.

    Sheed also had an excellent finish to the season from 3 - 45.5% in ACC play. That was one of the only areas of shot improvement from non-conference to conference play across the team as a whole.

    All
    2pt J 29 78 37.18%
    Layup 24 52 46.15%
    Dunk 1 1 100.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 43 100 43.00%
    LD 25 53 47.17%
    LDT 25 53 47.17%
    Jump 72 178 40.45%
    2s 54 131 41.22%
    All 97 231 41.99%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 9 28 32.14%
    Layup 9 17 52.94%
    Dunk 1 1 100.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 13 34 38.24%
    LD 10 18 55.56%
    LDT 10 18 55.56%
    Jump 22 62 35.48%
    2s 19 46 41.30%
    All 32 80 40.00%

    ACC
    2pt J 20 50 40.00%
    Layup 15 35 42.86%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 30 66 45.45%
    LD 15 35 42.86%
    LDT 15 35 42.86%
    Jump 50 116 43.10%
    2s 35 85 41.18%
    All 65 151 43.05%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Andre Shot Selection

    No surprises here - Dre took over 80% of his shots from deep and just 6.2% at the rim.

    All
    2pt J 12 23 52.17%
    Layup 3 6 50.00%
    Dunk 2 4 50.00%
    Tip-in 1 1 100.00%
    3pt J 61 144 42.36%
    LD 5 10 50.00%
    LDT 6 11 54.55%
    Jump 73 167 43.71%
    2s 18 34 52.94%
    All 79 178 44.38%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 4 6 66.67%
    Layup 2 3 66.67%
    Dunk 1 1 100.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 30 64 46.88%
    LD 3 4 75.00%
    LDT 3 4 75.00%
    Jump 34 70 48.57%
    2s 7 10 70.00%
    All 37 74 50.00%

    ACC
    2pt J 8 17 47.06%
    Layup 1 3 33.33%
    Dunk 1 3 33.33%
    Tip-in 1 1 100.00%
    3pt J 31 80 38.75%
    LD 2 6 33.33%
    LDT 3 7 42.86%
    Jump 39 97 40.21%
    2s 11 24 45.83%
    All 42 104 40.38%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Amile Shot Selection

    Amile finished well. Yes, much of these shots came off of assists and offensive rebounds (which includes more than just straight tip-ins - and that's a good thing, because he needs some work on tip buckets), but he also finished the opportunities he got there to the tune of 67% from close in overall (68.8% in ACC play).

    All
    2pt J 11 21 52.38%
    Layup 65 96 67.71%
    Dunk 10 11 90.91%
    Tip-in 2 8 25.00%
    3pt J 0 0 0.00%
    LD 75 107 70.09%
    LDT 77 115 66.96%
    Jump 11 21 52.38%
    2s 88 136 64.71%
    All 88 136 64.71%

    Non-ACC
    2 5 40.00%
    28 44 63.64%
    4 5 80.00%
    1 2 50.00%
    0.00%
    32 49 65.31%
    33 51 64.71%
    2 5 40.00%
    35 56 62.50%
    35 56 62.50%

    ACC
    2pt J 9 16 56.25%
    Layup 37 52 71.15%
    Dunk 6 6 100.00%
    Tip-in 1 6 16.67%
    3pt J 0 0 0.00%
    LD 43 58 74.14%
    LDT 44 64 68.75%
    Jump 9 16 56.25%
    2s 53 80 66.25%
    All 53 80 66.25%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Tyler Shot Selection

    Never ventured inside the arc, particularly once ACC play rolled around when 41 of his 45 shots came from 3. He took 1 layup in the 19 ACC games captured here.

    All
    2pt J 2 7 28.57%
    Layup 3 7 42.86%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 1 0.00%
    3pt J 27 59 45.76%
    LD 3 7 42.86%
    LDT 3 8 37.50%
    Jump 29 66 43.94%
    2s 5 15 33.33%
    All 32 74 43.24%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 1 4 25.00%
    Layup 3 6 50.00%
    Dunk 0.00%
    Tip-in 1 0.00%
    3pt J 9 18 50.00%
    LD 3 6 50.00%
    LDT 3 7 42.86%
    Jump 10 22 45.45%
    2s 4 11 36.36%
    All 13 29 44.83%

    ACC
    2pt J 1 3 33.33%
    Layup 0 1 0.00%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 18 41 43.90%
    LD 0 1 0.00%
    LDT 0 1 0.00%
    Jump 19 44 43.18%
    2s 1 4 25.00%
    All 19 45 42.22%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Marshall Shot Selection

    Basically everything at the rim and pretty strong at finishing - 73.7% close in - although virtually none of that was self-created. He made only one shot away from the rim all season.

    All
    2pt J 1 7 14.29%
    Layup 8 11 72.73%
    Dunk 6 7 85.71%
    Tip-in 0 1 0.00%
    3pt J 0 0 0.00%
    LD 14 18 77.78%
    LDT 14 19 73.68%
    Jump 1 7 14.29%
    2s 15 26 57.69%
    All 15 26 57.69%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 1 3 33.33%
    Layup 2 2 100.00%
    Dunk 2 2 100.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 0.00%
    LD 4 4 100.00%
    LDT 4 4 100.00%
    Jump 1 3 33.33%
    2s 5 7 71.43%
    All 5 7 71.43%

    ACC
    2pt J 0 4 0.00%
    Layup 6 9 66.67%
    Dunk 4 5 80.00%
    Tip-in 0 1 0.00%
    3pt J 0 0 0.00%
    LD 10 14 71.43%
    LDT 10 15 66.67%
    Jump 0 4 0.00%
    2s 10 19 52.63%
    All 10 19 52.63%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

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    Matt Shot Selection

    Matt shot under 30% from the floor on the season and took over 40% of his shots from 3 despite hitting just 1 in 7 of them. Jump shooting (22.9% on the year) is the biggest area of improvement, although his finishing has room to grow as well.

    All
    2pt J 5 14 35.71%
    Layup 6 15 40.00%
    Dunk 1 1 100.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 3 21 14.29%
    LD 7 16 43.75%
    LDT 7 16 43.75%
    Jump 8 35 22.86%
    2s 12 30 40.00%
    All 15 51 29.41%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 4 8 50.00%
    Layup 2 8 25.00%
    Dunk 1 1 100.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 2 14 14.29%
    LD 3 9 33.33%
    LDT 3 9 33.33%
    Jump 6 22 27.27%
    2s 7 17 41.18%
    All 9 31 29.03%

    ACC
    2pt J 1 6 16.67%
    Layup 4 7 57.14%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 1 7 14.29%
    LD 4 7 57.14%
    LDT 4 7 57.14%
    Jump 2 13 15.38%
    2s 5 13 38.46%
    All 6 20 30.00%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Josh Shot Selection

    He did a better job eliminating the jumpers from his game - just 10 in 34 attempts, with everything else coming at the rim.

    All
    2pt J 2 9 22.22%
    Layup 8 13 61.54%
    Dunk 4 5 80.00%
    Tip-in 3 6 50.00%
    3pt J 0 1 0.00%
    LD 12 18 66.67%
    LDT 15 24 62.50%
    Jump 2 10 20.00%
    2s 17 33 51.52%
    All 17 34 50.00%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 3 0.00%
    Layup 7 11 63.64%
    Dunk 3 3 100.00%
    Tip-in 1 2 50.00%
    3pt J 1 0.00%
    LD 10 14 71.43%
    LDT 11 16 68.75%
    Jump 0 4 0.00%
    2s 11 19 57.89%
    All 11 20 55.00%

    ACC
    2pt J 2 6 33.33%
    Layup 1 2 50.00%
    Dunk 1 2 50.00%
    Tip-in 2 4 50.00%
    3pt J 0 0 0.00%
    LD 2 4 50.00%
    LDT 4 8 50.00%
    Jump 2 6 33.33%
    2s 6 14 42.86%
    All 6 14 42.86%
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    Semi Shot Selection

    Not a lot to be gleaned from 14 shots on the season (Jabari and Rodney each had several games with more shots than that) but the initial distribution of 6 layups, 7 3s, and just 1 2-point jumper suggests smart shot selection. Really can't draw conclusions, though.

    All
    2pt J 0 1 0.00%
    Layup 3 6 50.00%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 4 7 57.14%
    LD 3 6 50.00%
    LDT 3 6 50.00%
    Jump 4 8 50.00%
    2s 3 7 42.86%
    All 7 14 50.00%

    Non-ACC
    2pt J 1 0.00%
    Layup 3 5 60.00%
    Dunk 0.00%
    Tip-in 0.00%
    3pt J 3 6 50.00%
    LD 3 5 60.00%
    LDT 3 5 60.00%
    Jump 3 7 42.86%
    2s 3 6 50.00%
    All 6 12 50.00%

    ACC
    2pt J 0 0 0.00%
    Layup 0 1 0.00%
    Dunk 0 0 0.00%
    Tip-in 0 0 0.00%
    3pt J 1 1 100.00%
    LD 0 1 0.00%
    LDT 0 1 0.00%
    Jump 1 1 100.00%
    2s 0 1 0.00%
    All 1 2 50.00%
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

  13. #13
    Wow, great work, pfrduke. I haven't finished studying this stuff enough to make a substantive comment, but thanks for all this effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    Basically everything at the rim and pretty strong at finishing - 73.7% close in - although virtually none of that was self-created. He made only one shot away from the rim all season.
    Ah, but we all remember that jump hook as if it were yesterday. I think greybeard argued Marshall could get 15ppg off it.

    But seriously, thank you so much for these tables. They are beyond wonderful, and the amount of labor that went into them is evident.

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    I agree. This is simply fabulous work, pfr. I haven't had a chance to digest it either, but I feel I've been remiss in not acknowledging the tremendous effort you put forth to produce these tables. Thanks!

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