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    What if Capel leaves too?

    With Jeff Capel now being mentioned as a possibility Cal, you have to wonder who might be brought in if he left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by langdonfan View Post
    With Jeff Capel now being mentioned as a possibility Cal, you have to wonder who might be brought in if he left...
    This is from last November: http://www.rantsports.com/prep-sport...iting-success/

    If he's one of the keys to our recent success with big names, losing him would hurt. But as the story makes clear, a great recruiter will be in high demand.

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    Gonna be kind of odd for the new class if most of the coaching staff that recruited them is gone when they get here :-s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by langdonfan View Post
    Gonna be kind of odd for the new class if most of the coaching staff that recruited them is gone when they get here :-s.
    Could be a reason to ask Jay Williams if he's interested. A big name assistant would help calm some nerves if they are concerned. Which I don't think any of the recruited kids are worried. GoDuke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by langdonfan View Post
    Gonna be kind of odd for the new class if most of the coaching staff that recruited them is gone when they get here :-s.
    Yeah, we'll have to manage it well. Orlando leaving UK, sounds like Karl Towns is taking that especially hard.

    With Coach K's salary, if our only issue is keeping any new assistants' salaries under his, we could attract some pretty great candidates. Don't know much about his interest in coaching, but J-Will, on the surface, would seem to be a "everything is good" type of hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobstersPinchPinch View Post
    Yeah, we'll have to manage it well. Orlando leaving UK, sounds like Karl Towns is taking that especially hard.

    With Coach K's salary, if our only issue is keeping any new assistants' salaries under his, we could attract some pretty great candidates. Don't know much about his interest in coaching, but J-Will, on the surface, would seem to be a "everything is good" type of hire.
    IF he were to come and take a seat on our bench, he wouldn't be filling Capel's seat. He has zero experience coaching. As we have discussed in other threads, being a great player does not equate to being a good coach. He would not start on the seat next to K as Capel did, he would still have to earn his way up the bench, so his salary would not be an issue. Nate James (and possibly Scheyer) would be making more than Williams.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    IF he were to come and take a seat on our bench, he wouldn't be filling Capel's seat. He has zero experience coaching. As we have discussed in other threads, being a great player does not equate to being a good coach. He would not start on the seat next to K as Capel did, he would still have to earn his way up the bench, so his salary would not be an issue. Nate James (and possibly Scheyer) would be making more than Williams.
    Agree on where he sits, until he shows what he can do, bbut would be surprised if his salary's ceiling was the other assistant's current salary. $ is not just based on experience but how much (potential) value the coach can add. More than just x's and o's go into value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobstersPinchPinch View Post
    Agree on where he sits, until he shows what he can do, bbut would be surprised if his salary's ceiling was the other assistant's current salary. $ is not just based on experience but how much (potential) value the coach can add. More than just x's and o's go into value.
    Dickie V has coaching experience, as a head coach even, but I wouldn't pay him more than my current assistants should he want to sit on my bench.
    Williams is a very good business man, and makes an excellent living. He would not need to make money a priority, and would be smart not to. He wouldn't be hired for free, but he would be just fine making what he is worth as a coach, which right now would not be more than the other guys on our sidelines. It is his long term interests that he would be making the move for, and those would pay off eventually.
    (Either way, I would be very surprised to see him make that move.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LobstersPinchPinch View Post
    Agree on where he sits, until he shows what he can do, bbut would be surprised if his salary's ceiling was the other assistant's current salary. $ is not just based on experience but how much (potential) value the coach can add. More than just x's and o's go into value.
    And, uh, his existing economic package from broadcasting, sports promotions, appearances, etc. JWill can demand a higher salary than other assistant basketball coaches, at Duke or elsewhere. Duke may or may not choose to pay it. (Actually, it's supply, not demand: he may not be willing to supply his services for less than he is making.)
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    If Jeff Capel is a great recruiter, then that's wonderful. My concern is a little bit more with how recruits are developing once they get here. And I have to think/hope they're drawn more to Coach K than any one assistant coach. In fact, I think Coach K is often involved in "closing the deal", right?

    Not being more than an interested fan, and with full recognition that sometimes the best coaches were mediocre players, I'd be looking down the Duke all-time steals list to figure out who might be able to teach the skill well. Is Chris Duhon really Duke's all-time leader in that category? I know he was a really good player for us, but I never thought of him as such a relentless ball hound as some others like JWill, Wojo, Hurley, etc. Apparently, he either was, or he was really good at anticipating passes and stepping in. We need both, of course.

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    Next Coach

    I'm sending in my resume to replace Wojo and/or Capel. My entire interview pitch is going to be crowd sourcing how to coach the team based on what I read on DBR.
    We'll never lose with me as an assistant ;-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuse View Post
    I'm sending in my resume to replace Wojo and/or Capel. My entire interview pitch is going to be crowd sourcing how to coach the team based on what I read on DBR.
    We'll never lose with me as an assistant ;-p
    Or did you mean you'd never make a decision with you as an assistant, based on reading DBR. In that case, the starters would be the four freshmen and Semi, with playing time being given in order of least experienced players first. . Actually, there would probably be some very good input, along with some not so good.
    “Those two kids, they’re champions,” Krzyzewski said of his senior leaders. “They’re trying to teach the other kids how to become that, and it’s a long road to become that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuse View Post
    I'm sending in my resume to replace Wojo and/or Capel. My entire interview pitch is going to be crowd sourcing how to coach the team based on what I read on DBR.
    We'll never lose with me as an assistant ;-p
    And you and Grant Hill can pour the beer. Oh, wait, wrong thread.
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    The Capel thing seems to be pretty thin at this point. All I could find was a reference to a "rumor going around the Duke program" that he "might" be considered at Cal. Things kind of seem to have taken off from there (unusual, I know). So I'm giving the Cal thing the thought it deserves at this point.

    Leaving Cal aside, there's no question that Capel is ripe -- or at least ripening -- for another HC position. But with Wojo and Collins both gone now, this would be a bad time for the Duke program for Capel to leave. It would create an experience void on the staff that would (imo) need to be filled by someone with that experience, whether from the Duke coaching tree or beyond it. But I think experience would have to trump former-player status.

    Crap, I didn't want to start speculating based on a Capel-to-Cal rumor, and listen to me... ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    And you and Grant Hill can pour the beer. Oh, wait, wrong thread.
    Coaching alongside K and Grant (for which grossly under qualified would be an understatement of the decade) while pouring the beer might actually be the realization of an unarticulated dream. That could be a top ten memorable moment.

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    Battier is retiring at the right time to come coach. I'll pitch in five bucks to bring home to duke.

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    They probably have better options and wouldn't be interested, but what about Grant Hill and Shane Battier? That would also in my view help us in the big man department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkpa View Post
    They probably have better options and wouldn't be interested, but what about Grant Hill and Shane Battier? That would also in my view help us in the big man department.
    Are you saying Duke probably has better options and wouldn't be interested in Battier or Grant?. If they were brought on staff, finally Duke would be able to coach every position.
    “Those two kids, they’re champions,” Krzyzewski said of his senior leaders. “They’re trying to teach the other kids how to become that, and it’s a long road to become that.”

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    There are so many threads spawned from Wojo's departure that is impossible to figure out where to post this without starting a new thread, and obviously we have enough as it is.
    Since I don't think Capel is going anywhere, (there are no sources in any news stories even postulating his taking another job, Cal's included), I'll put it here.
    This is a fun article in USA Today wondering who gets the halftime interview duties now. (Don't read if you don't enjoy a good roast.)
    It’s one of the most obnoxious parts about Duke basketball. No, not the floor slapping, fake charges or endless whining to officials. It has nothing to do with the Cameron Crazies either. We’re talking about Mike Krzyzewski’s refusal to do halftime interviews and passing the unenviable task to an assistant. First it was Johnny Dawkins, then Chris Collins. Once Collins left, the “privilege” was given to associate head coach Steve Wojciechowski. But now that Wojo’s left Durham to become the head coach at Marquette, who’s Coach K’s next interview lackey?
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/duke...el-nate-james/
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkpa View Post
    They probably have better options and wouldn't be interested, but what about Grant Hill and Shane Battier? That would also in my view help us in the big man department.
    My memory could be fuzzy, but I don't remember either Grant Hill or Shane Battier ever posting up on offense while at Duke. My guess is neither did it very much in the NBA, either. On defense, I guess both sometimes guarded opposing PFs at Duke, but in the pros I think they both played perimeter (SF) pretty much all the time.

    So I don't understand how either could help us in the big man department any more than Wojo or Jeff Capel. Does breathing the air 6'8" off the ground automatically convert you into a good big man coach?

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