ACCCG: Florida St 45, Duke 7 -- Post-Game Thread

[SoCalDukeFan]

Interesting contrast with John Danowski who told the lacrosse team NOT to put on championship shirts and hats until after they had gone through the handshake line.

The best way to deal with such lack of class is to beat it.

Put on the ACC Champs hat right after.

SoCal

[hudlow]

Go Duke...next game.

[Dukehky]

I don't really have a problem with teams playing their starters throughout the game; it's a championship game. If you want the offense to stop scoring, stop them. We run the score up on people in basketball when we play our starters who need to work on stuff. I remember specifically a game at wake in 06, we won by 26 and Redick was still playing in the last 4 minutes.

I honestly didn't see much poor behavior out of Florida State tonight, maybe I wasn't watching closely enough through the second half. A few late hits and stuff, but football is a violent game, it happens, we did it too.

Whatever though, game's over. Nothing we can do about it even if they did try and run the score up (substantially lower output than most of their games this year) except complain about it. Whining about running the score up admits that you don't belong on the field with their starters, which I don't think is a good message to send to the players. We have hopefully a big bowl game coming up. If it's west of the Mississippi then I'll be there.

Go Duke.

[BlueDevilBrowns]

I don't really have a problem with teams playing their starters throughout the game; it's a championship game. If you want the offense to stop scoring, stop them. We run the score up on people in basketball when we play our starters who need to work on stuff. I remember specifically a game at wake in 06, we won by 26 and Redick was still playing in the last 4 minutes.

I honestly didn't see much poor behavior out of Florida State tonight, maybe I wasn't watching closely enough through the second half. A few late hits and stuff, but football is a violent game, it happens, we did it too.

Whatever though, game's over. Nothing we can do about it even if they did try and run the score up (substantially lower output than most of their games this year) except complain about it. Whining about running the score up admits that you don't belong on the field with their starters, which I don't think is a good message to send to the players. We have hopefully a big bowl game coming up. If it's west of the Mississippi then I'll be there.

Go Duke.

Couple of things stuck out that I thought showed a lack of class:

1) FSU running the ball at the end of the game instead of the victory formation.

2) Throwing the ball down the field 30 yards up 38-0 with 8 minutes left instead of running the ball to run the clock out.

To equate it to basketball, it would be like Duke repeatedly setting up alley oops in the last 4 minutes up 27 and then trying to score with 10 seconds left with the ball up 30.

I can't remember Duke ever doing that under Coach K.

[Son of Jarhead]

Well, we looked good early, but they just have more pros than we do... well, really, more than some pro teams do. And we are better than we showed, not enough O & too many turnovers wore our D down, but... congrats to FSU, they are #1 for a reason. FSU, you better bring the Naty back to the ACC... don't screw it up. Now we wait to see where we are bowling. Proud of my Blue Devils, 2013 Coastal Division Champs, 11 All-ACC honors, Nat'l Coach of the Year for Cut, etc... let's go win that bowl game!

On Cut's quick handshake-&-bolt, he looked annoyed as he was walking across the field, working that gum... don't know what he was annoyed about, and likely won't find out, either. It could have been at FSU, or maybe about our play, or maybe the refs... or maybe it was that cameraman in his way right then. I would like to know what Fisher said to someone next to him right after Cut walked away, presumably in response to them asking something like "what was that about with Coach Cutcliffe?" It sounded like "He probably wants...", but I couldn't make out the rest. Anybody catch that?

[NYBri]

Best thing to do is REMEMBER. In two years we will be smacking the likes of FSU around and it will be very sweet. Remember how sweet it was to beat UNLV the second time. We will be back.

[OldPhiKap]

Just got back from the game. First of all, GREAT Duke crowd. Held our own against a much bigger school. The place was also fuller than the Belk Bowl last year.

Second, I think we played well in the first half but FSU is clearly the most talented team in the country. Even if you play flawlessly, that will wear you down.

Congrats to FSU, hope they win it all.



Re: Starters in late -- football is not basketball, in that margins of victory count with some voters. And their QB is trying to shake a bad press story to win the Heisman. I am not a fan of it, but that is the college game of football. If we don't like it, beat them next time you play.

[throatybeard]

Okay, so if you drive from Auburn to Tallahassee, it's about 195 miles. (I'm not a fan of "air miles" nor of the media-driven, supposed, ever-shrinking distance between Duke and UNC, which is now like 17 paces).

I'm wondering what is the shortest distance between schools in a FB championship game, or a bowl game that, de facto, served as such back in the day.

[Highlander]

FWIW, Bob Harris announced on the radio that Norman will have to sit out the first half of the bowl game due to his ejection.

Just got back from the game myself. Good Duke crowd. We played well for a quarter and held our own against FSU during that time. The two plays that hurt us significantly were the dropped pass to the RB when he slipped out of the backfield and Boone's interception deep in FSU territory. It certainly didn't feel like we were down 17-0, and the FSU fans around us were frustrated that they weren't blowing us out. They were also frustrated that we effectively neutralized their punt return specialist for the entire game.

Second half was a much different story. Our inability to do anything productive on offense just dug us into too deep a hole, and when you give a team like FSU an infinite number of chances to score, they will eventually hit their groove. It got out of hand pretty quickly. When they hit that 50yd TD pass, the FSU fans near us said in the direction of the FSU bench "Where have you guys been all game?" My wife and I left with about 10 min to go in the 4th and Duke punting (again), so I missed the penalty on Norman. Was it a legitimate ejection? Bob Harris certainly didn't think so.

Anyway, I didn't expect us to win. I had hoped we'd keep it respectable and we did for about 20 minutes of game time, but a loss is a loss. Next play.

[Edouble]

Okay, so if you drive from Auburn to Tallahassee, it's about 195 miles. (I'm not a fan of "air miles" nor of the media-driven, supposed, ever-shrinking distance between Duke and UNC, which is now like 17 paces).

I'm wondering what is the shortest distance between schools in a FB championship game, or a bowl game that, de facto, served as such back in the day.

About 150 miles between Gainesville and Tallahassee. 1997 Sugar Bowl.

[CameronBlue]

Couple of things stuck out that I thought showed a lack of class:

1) FSU running the ball at the end of the game instead of the victory formation.

2) Throwing the ball down the field 30 yards up 38-0 with 8 minutes left instead of running the ball to run the clock out.

To equate it to basketball, it would be like Duke repeatedly setting up alley oops in the last 4 minutes up 27 and then trying to score with 10 seconds left with the ball up 30.

I can't remember Duke ever doing that under Coach K.

Uh check the highlights of the 82-50 beat down of Carolina. Let's not get too carried away with the lack of class comments. FSU did what they were supposed to do, win. They ran the ball! Mother j McCree oh all de noyve!

[mgtr]

OK, big win for FSU. Now lets see how they do against Auburn!

[dukelifer]

OK, big win for FSU. Now lets see how they do against Auburn!

My takeaways - Duke played hard on D. Clearly they have come together as a unit this year. The O did not do their job and control the ball other than one drive. Duke tried to play Duke football but very hard to do against FSU. I think Auburn will have an easier time as they look for big plays all the time. Boone got rattled or hurt- he was very good for a while but then made too many mistakes throughout the game and the D never got rest and wore out. I was surprised how emotional/rattled Winston was in that game. He looked like a freshman at times- not an impressive performance although he had good numbers. He cannot play like that in Jan.

FSU is good but they are going to play a very loose team that will throw everything at them. FSU would have beaten OSU pretty soundly but Auburn is on a roll and they may very well get another NC for the SEC. FSU will need their A game.

[hillsborodevil]

I really enjoyed the 1st Q. Duke came out firing on all cylinders. Cut really had the team fired up.

Should see positive results on the recruiting trail from the toughness Duke displayed in the first half. Nothing to be ashamed of with the final score.

[sagegrouse]

Maybe for leaving the starting QB in the game til late in the 4th qtr with a huge lead and trying to run up the score?

Yeah, and I believe Mr. Dwayne Norman, number 40, was Cut's ambassador to Coach Fisher. Good sticking, Dwayne! We'll miss you at the bowl game but see ya' next year. And which of the DL blasted Winston on the same play?

I like that Duke didn't back down one bit.

sage

[jv001]

Proud of our defense. They put some tough hits on some of their receivers and backs. Our offensive line did a pretty good job of protecting Boone, but he was not his usual self. Most likely nerves from playing in the next to biggest game of his life. The unc game being the biggest just to make it to the championship game. But unc is not FSU. I'll be rooting for them to win a National Title. I'm not one to whine because we were beaten by a better football time. But Duke is on their way back. GoDuke!

[77devil]

Yeah, and I believe Mr. Dwayne Norman, number 40, was Cut's ambassador to Coach Fisher. Good sticking, Dwayne! We'll miss you at the bowl game but see ya' next year. And which of the DL blasted Winston on the same play?

I like that Duke didn't back down one bit.

sage

It was LB Kyler Brown who was blitzing.

FSU is clearly # 1 at whining if not winning. Throughout the game a coach or player was complaining about one thing or another; Jimbo being not least of whom.

[Bob Green]

My wife and I left with about 10 min to go in the 4th and Duke punting (again), so I missed the penalty on Norman. Was it a legitimate ejection? Bob Harris certainly didn't think so.

It was a borderline call. Norman hit the receiver in his midsection, but the refs ruled Norman led with the crown of his helmet. I will not go as far as calling it a bad call, but it was certainly a call that didn't need to be made.

[WakeDevil]

Was it Florida not that long ago that faked a kneeldown near the end zone and threw a TD pass?

As far as I'm concerned, if they tell you they're trying to score, it's your job to stop them, but why would Fisher risk an injury to a starter when the game is in hand?

[CDu]

It was LB Kyler Brown who was blitzing.

FSU is clearly # 1 at whining if not winning. Throughout the game a coach or player was complaining about one thing or another; Jimbo being not least of whom.

It was Kelby Brown, not Kyler Brown.