As I wrote in another thread, I think Ross Cockrell and his talented, dedicated, and hardworking teammates are making history.
Duke Football: Making History one day at a time, one play at a time, one game at a time.
A topic of conversation these days is the record of the current football team with comparisons to the 1941 team's record. Discussions about Duke's first back to back bowl games began to surface recently as well. Most such comparisons and conversations are made with little context other than this moment in time. Lewis Bowling, Wallace Wade biographer, has an article in the Durham Herald this morning which adds some historical perspective. Duke has a very rich football history, worthy of learning about.
http://www.heraldsun.com/news/showca...e-to-41-Devils
As I wrote in another thread, I think Ross Cockrell and his talented, dedicated, and hardworking teammates are making history.
Duke Football: Making History one day at a time, one play at a time, one game at a time.
Very good reminder of our rich history.
Makes it even more tragic that our program was allowed to fade and wallow for so long.
As with many sports, it is difficult to compare eras that are twenty years apart -- let alone fifty, sixty, seventy years apart. What Wade did was phenominal. What Cut has done, under modern circumstances, is also extremely impressive.
Of course, Cut's not done.
As a student from 05-09 (3 years of Roof, 1 of Cut), I used to be a caller for the Duke Annual Fund. Every now and then I'd call an older alumnus from the good old football days, and they would complain to me for 10 minutes about Duke Football.
Some of those alumni may no longer be with us, but I hope somewhere Annual Fund callers are calling some of these guys who are now beaming about how proud they are once again.
<devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink
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Duke football during the 30s and 40s was at the top nationally, shaping college football (organization of practices, plays, strength and conditioning), accumulating amazing records and accomplishments. I used to hear that Coach Wade regularly started the second team who would dominate their opponents early and then he'd put in the feared first team. You have to be pretty good to take the lead with the second team, game after game!
From post WWII through the 60s Duke was still very good, but gradually declining. Only in very recent years of the expansion was another ACC program able to pass Duke in the number of conference football championships. I think I'm remembering that correctly... maybe Jim Sumner can verify. .... quite an accomplishment to hold such a record while stuck in the cellar for decades.
Here is Duke's record during Wade's best run, 1936 through 1941. The AP rankings began in 1936.
The winning percentage was 85.3 percent. Duke's two best teams, which could easily have been ranked number one at the end of the regular seasons, lost in upsets in the Rose Bowl.Code:Year W L T AP 1936 9 1 11 1937 7 2 1 20 1938 9 1 3 1939 8 1 8 1940 7 2 18 1941 9 1 2 Tot 49 8 1
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Sorry for being too lazy to look it up, but what was the year in which the team went unbeaten, untied, and unscored upon in the regular season, and then got upset 3-0 in the Rose Bowl?
Also, I think it worth pointing out that Duke would have gone to numerous bowl games back then, including long strings of back to back to back years of making a bowl under different circumstances. Back then, unless they got an offer to one of the 4 major bowls (Rose, Orange, Cotton, Sugar) they turned it down due to travel expenses. I did not realize that until a couple of weeks ago when I saw it in the news. Kind of stinks as our bowl attendance and record could be far more impressive than it is.
Thanks DitBD! I had grown up thinking that this was the season the Rose Bowl was played in WW but read a story about the Rose/WW game a few weeks back and learned Duke was not undefeated that year and the game score was different, so I then had no idea which season it was.
7-3. USC scored in the final minute of the game. If we hadn't given up that late TD, we could have a football national championship almost as impressive as UNC's Helms title.
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article...erfection-1938
We actually won the Kay National Championship Award in 1938. I'm as big of a college football fan as Helms was a college basketball fan, and as such I've decided to retroactively award teams with national championships in college football, starting in 1938 and working my way backwards. After careful consideration, I've selected the Duke University Blue Devils as the national champions in 1938. Despite giving up that late TD, they were clearly the best team in the nation and therefore are deserving of the national championship, imho, which is the only opinion that matters for selecting Kay Awards.
As soon as the trophy gets delivered to me from trophydepot.com, I'll run it up to Durham.
Duke can now go ahead and fly their National Champions, 1938 flag above WW stadium. They should make sure not to clarify that it's a Kay National Championship Award, because why be completely open and forthright when, after all, "To Seem, not To Be".
Congratulations Duke University, on your 1938 football national championship.
TCU had the great Davey O'Brien, who won the 1938 Heisman. Going into the Sugar Bowl, they had outscored opponents 254-53. They defeated Carnegie Tech 15-7.
Going into the Orange Bowl, Tennessee had outscored their opponents 276-16. They defeated Oklahoma 17-0.
Going into the Rose Bowl, Duke had outscored their opponents 114-0.
So, Duke was well behind both those teams in point differential. The rankings were not irrational.
<devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink
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