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  1. #201
    Would your rather:

    Be in a lower ranked bowl and win

    or

    Be in a higher ranked bowl and lose

    NOT AN OPTION: (win in a higher ranked bowl AKA "GET AN A IN AN AP CLASS")

  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skitzle View Post
    Would your rather:

    Be in a lower ranked bowl and win

    or

    Be in a higher ranked bowl and lose

    NOT AN OPTION: (win in a higher ranked bowl AKA "GET AN A IN AN AP CLASS")
    Be in the higher ranked bowl. That means we had the more successful season overall.
    Mmmm, BBQ!

  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skitzle View Post
    Would your rather:

    Be in a lower ranked bowl and win

    or

    Be in a higher ranked bowl and lose

    NOT AN OPTION: (win in a higher ranked bowl AKA "GET AN A IN AN AP CLASS")
    Definitely higher ranked bowl. An appearance in a higher ranked bowl means a better overall regular season and a higher national recognition overall, especially to recruits (as long as we don't get blown out).
    After the 61-59 win against Butler:

    "To all the alumni that never got to experience this, this one's for them...This one's for everybody in the Duke community everywhere. People said we couldn't do it and it feels so good. It just feels so good."

  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    I would happily miss Duke beating the snot out of a small school that isn't good (They lost 38-90 at Kentucky last year) to watch Duke play in a bowl game.
    All in all, I 100% agree with you, but there is a certain revenge factor when it comes to Eastern Michigan...remember Earl Boykins.

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    I would happily miss Duke beating the snot out of a small school that isn't good (They lost 38-90 at Kentucky last year) to watch Duke play in a bowl game.
    Enrollment:

    EMU - 23,419
    Duke - 14,591

    (This is with postgraduate students included).

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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson View Post
    All in all, I 100% agree with you, but there is a certain revenge factor when it comes to Eastern Michigan...remember Earl Boykins.
    Let that Eastern Michigan game go, man, 'cause it's long, long gone. If we manage to beat them in a throwaway holiday game it just won't be the same.
    Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!

  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skitzle View Post
    Would your rather:

    Be in a lower ranked bowl and win

    or

    Be in a higher ranked bowl and lose

    NOT AN OPTION: (win in a higher ranked bowl AKA "GET AN A IN AN AP CLASS")
    It has been more than 50 years since Duke won a bowl. 60 years since we won a bowl by a convincing margin. Let's correct that this year.

    If I had to choose.
    Roy, be a man. Accept responsibility and resign.

  8. #208
    I think that I would split the difference. I don't want to go to a really good bowl and get embarrassed by a good SEC team that just went through the ringer in the conference. Nor do i want to play in a really weak bowl against an opponent that beating would give our program no notoriety. I think that the Cinci game last year was ideal to be honest. Two relatively evenly matched teams and Duke had a great shot at winning. I had to listen on the radio so I'm not completely sure about how the match-ups went but I know the game was close right up until the end.

    If we go say 9-3 in the ACC, everyone's going to know that we had a relatively weak schedule (we do, but we beat teams that Duke is supposed to beat, which is funny to say) and getting blown out by a really strong team from a stronger conference isn't going to be good for the program. At the same time, playing a mid-major school in a low level bowl isn't going to do anything for the program either. Bowls are important for programs, they're important to the season as well, but I view them as measuring sticks for the program (YAY DUKE HAS A FOOTBALL PROGRAM THAT CAN BE MEASURED). I want a good match-up that Duke can win, not should win.

    I hope that made sense, but push come to shove, I'd like to see the kids win a bowl game, they deserve it.

  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Enrollment:

    EMU - 23,419
    Duke - 14,591

    (This is with postgraduate students included).
    What's the point? Does that make them more worthwhile seeing over a bowl game? Regardless of how small (or big) they are, they are still a BAD team. I would rather freeze my tuckus off watching Duke something it has never done before (play a bowl game for the second year straight) than be warm in Cameron watching a blowout.
    Mmmm, BBQ!

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukehky View Post
    ...I want a good match-up that Duke can win, not should win...
    I understand what you're saying, but FWIW...
    "It may not sound like much to some people but that’s the beginning of starting to believe you should win. Not can. There is a big difference. When you start believing you should win, then you start winning. This ‘can’ stuff is bull. It’s Durham Bull City bull. I’ve never liked that. Yes, of course you can win, but I hope we’re believing we should win." --Coach Cut after the UVA win

  11. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    You have to keep in mind that we don't have much experience in bowl projections. I'm just surprised we aren't talking about which regional the football team will be going to and where it will be seeded.
    I just hope they don't make us play at 10pm on Thursday and noon on Saturday and in the same pod as unc.

  12. #212
    Talking bowl opponents is kind of weird at this point because there are so many moving pieces. Barring an improbable ACC championship, the range of bowls for Duke is what - Russell Athletic Bowl to Military Bowl, assuming FSU to Orange and Clemson to Chik-Fil-A. It's tough to predict what the bowls are going to do, so just win as many games as possible.

  13. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skitzle View Post
    Would your rather:

    Be in a lower ranked bowl and win

    or

    Be in a higher ranked bowl and lose

    NOT AN OPTION: (win in a higher ranked bowl AKA "GET AN A IN AN AP CLASS")
    Your options leave much to be desired. Why in the world would winning in a higher-ranked bowl not be an option? And where is the dividing line? For the record, I want for us to play in the ACC Championship game, and then the highest ranked bowl for which we qualify. There's a minefield of ifs to get past yet, but you can bet the players are thinking big. Real big.
    Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!

  14. #214
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    Quote Originally Posted by killerleft View Post
    Your options leave much to be desired. Why in the world would winning in a higher-ranked bowl not be an option? And where is the dividing line? For the record, I want for us to play in the ACC Championship game, and then the highest ranked bowl for which we qualify. There's a minefield of ifs to get past yet, but you can bet the players are thinking big. Real big.
    I didn't read the OP's post to imply that winning the better-regarded bowl is impossible; rather, it was just a hypothetical question of if you had to pick between the two proposed options, which would you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson View Post
    I didn't read the OP's post to imply that winning the better-regarded bowl is impossible; rather, it was just a hypothetical question of if you had to pick between the two proposed options, which would you prefer?
    Yeah, me too. I just couldn't figure out the point of it, I guess. I'd rather just know we did our best, and let the chips fall where they may. I can't bring myself to concede defeat until the clock hits zeros, so neither option works.
    Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!

  16. #216
    Sorry in advance for an obnoxious response, but for me it depends on the difference in bowl quality - I'd rather win at a very slightly lesser bowl, but would rather play in a tremendously higher bowl (just happy to be there). I've never seen duke win a bowl game - changing that would mean a lot to me as a fan, so the breakeven is probably two or three bowl "levels".

  17. #217
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    A lot of football to be played before a bowl but.....I think I'd like to play a name team but one we match up well with, such as a team that perhaps is vulnerable to the pass.

  18. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob blue devil View Post
    I've never seen duke win a bowl game - changing that would mean a lot to me as a fan
    To be fair, I would venture to say that over 70% of Duke Football fans haven't seen Duke win a bowl game before (since our last win was in 1960)
    After the 61-59 win against Butler:

    "To all the alumni that never got to experience this, this one's for them...This one's for everybody in the Duke community everywhere. People said we couldn't do it and it feels so good. It just feels so good."

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDevilinNYC View Post
    To be fair, I would venture to say that over 70% of Duke Football fans haven't seen Duke win a bowl game before (since our last win was in 1960)
    This was really the point of my hypothetical.

    Being in a higher bowl game (even if we lose) is a measuring stick for the program.

    On the flip side... Who doesn't want to see Duke win a bowl game! Being in a lower ranked bowl gives us a significantly better shot at that satisfaction.

    So which one is more satisfying to you? Seeing the Duke measuring stick move up a level, or ending the season with a win.

    Similar question to UNC fans... Would they rather win the NIT or get knocked out in the Elite 8 !

  20. #220
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    ESPN's Week-10 Projections

    Here are ESPN's two "experts" picking bowl projections...


    http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections

    One has Duke vs USC in the Sun Bowl in El Paso.
    The other has Duke vs Miss State in the Music City Bowl in Nashville.

    Also of interest, while neither has FSU in the National Championship game, one has two ACC teams (FSU and Clemson) in BCS Bowls, while the other has just FSU. Oddly, it is the prognosticator who only has one ACC team in BCS Bowls who picks Duke for the higher-ranked Sun Bowl.
    -BDBD

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