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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    In related news, Virginia Tech just opened as an eleven-point favorite for next weekend. Interesting. Time to make a statement.
    11? Wow, I figured we'd be closer to 7 point dogs, but 11? Ouch. Well no one said it would be an easy game.
    <devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
    7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
    7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
    7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
    7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink

    Carolina Delenda Est

  2. #22
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    The True Blue 'Cue Crew will be in Rocky Mount at the Eastern Carolina BBQ Throwdown. We got lucky last year and had a weekend without a Duke game, and this year we got lucky with an away game...but we'll be turning in our ribs when the game kicks off with still our pork and brisket waiting on deck for the judges. At least we'll have our satellite dish and TV set up so we can enjoy the game while we wait on the scores. I want our bbq team to do well, but it's gonna be hard to concentrate knowing we are making plays on the field. Hoping both of us come home winners!
    Mmmm, BBQ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by loran16 View Post
    11? Wow, I figured we'd be closer to 7 point dogs, but 11? Ouch. Well no one said it would be an easy game.
    would rather the spread be 21. Our lads tend to do well under the radar and with a side order of no respect

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by loran16 View Post
    For those who are curious, the new Jeff Sagarin Rankings have the ACC as follows:

    Code:
    TEAM		PRE	ELO
    FSU		12	23
    UNC		15	53
    Clem		25	24
    VT		40	55
    NCSt		45	42
    GT		59	96
    MIA		67	30
    BC		73	103
    MD		75	63
    DUKE		77	47
    UVA		94	79
    WF		106	76
    Overall standing and rating looks like this:

    Code:
    TEAM		Rank	Rating
    FSU		13	86.3
    UNC		20	82.3
    Clem		24	81.3
    VT		40	76.1
    NCSt		45	75.0
    MIA		62	71.7
    GT		65	70.7
    MD		72	69.4
    Duke		75	69.0
    BC		77	68.0
    UVA		94	64.7
    WF		101	62.8
    Home field is worth 2.6 points, so Duke is a0.1 point underdog against Miami -- every other game is worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForkFondler View Post
    Overall standing and rating looks like this:

    Code:
    TEAM		Rank	Rating
    FSU		13	86.3
    UNC		20	82.3
    Clem		24	81.3
    VT		40	76.1
    NCSt		45	75.0
    MIA		62	71.7
    GT		65	70.7
    MD		72	69.4
    Duke		75	69.0
    BC		77	68.0
    UVA		94	64.7
    WF		101	62.8
    Home field is worth 2.6 points, so Duke is a 0.1 point underdog against Miami -- every other game is worse.
    So, by that system, FSU would only be a 6.9 favorite over UNC at home and a mere 1.4 at UNC? Wow. Can't remember if they play this year or not, but even with the loss at NC State I would think this FSU team would be a bigger favorite than that over this UNC team.

    Wainstein Report Page 19 Section G:
    In men’s basketball, academic counselor Burgess McSwain (“McSwain”) and
    her successor Wayne Walden routinely called Crowder to arrange classes for their
    players.
    Roy Williams Of Nazareth had no knowledge however. He is sinless.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newton_14 View Post
    So, by that system, FSU would only be a 6.9 favorite over UNC at home and a mere 1.4 at UNC? Wow. Can't remember if they play this year or not, but even with the loss at NC State I would think this FSU team would be a bigger favorite than that over this UNC team.
    Carolina and Florida State do not play this year. Here's the Carolina schedule:http://www.goheels.com/SportSelect.d...2&SPSID=667865

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Newton_14 View Post
    So, by that system, FSU would only be a 6.9 favorite over UNC at home and a mere 1.4 at UNC? Wow. Can't remember if they play this year or not, but even with the loss at NC State I would think this FSU team would be a bigger favorite than that over this UNC team.
    Again, the system likes - often for good reason - using the margin of victory as a way to tell the good teams from the bad, as the truly good teams kill the bad teams on their schedule. Carolina has beaten it's two terrible opponents 62-0 and 66-0 (and has a 21 point victory over ECU), which make it look a lot better in the predictor (the RATING is an average of the two systems essentially). This makes them look really good in the predictor.
    <devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
    7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
    7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
    7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
    7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink

    Carolina Delenda Est

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by loran16 View Post
    Again, the system likes - often for good reason - using the margin of victory as a way to tell the good teams from the bad, as the truly good teams kill the bad teams on their schedule. Carolina has beaten it's two terrible opponents 62-0 and 66-0 (and has a 21 point victory over ECU), which make it look a lot better in the predictor (the RATING is an average of the two systems essentially). This makes them look really good in the predictor.
    The predictor score rewards teams who run up the score, while the ELO does not. All teams put their second-third-fourth strings in when way ahead, so deep teams look better in the predictor. Duke is not deep. If they get a few guys back off the injury list, they will be a bit deeper.

  9. #29
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    Based on the way Cut has prepared our guys this year so far, we are 0-0 this week and looking to go 1-0. I like this approach.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Based on the way Cut has prepared our guys this year so far, we are 0-0 this week and looking to go 1-0. I like this approach.
    The vt/Duke game at wallace wade last year was crazy. Duke was in it til the end. If it wasnt for a few missed short fgs...Duke very well would have won that game. Im a student at vatech, and am pumped for this. If you see a Duke shirt in the student section (its homecoming maroon effect game here by the way), 99% chance its me. We have found a pretty reliable running game to go along with the passing attack that was always there. If our defensive line can hold up against a relatively weak running game of tech, I think we'll keep it close. Logan Thomas has been throwing the ball terribly thus far this year. My biggest concern is tackling in the open field, or in general for that matter. Way too many missed tackles this season, especially early on in the UVA game. Lets Go Duke!

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    Vegas has set the over/under at 54 with VT a 9.5 points favorite. The math works out to a final score of VT 32, Duke 22. I don't think VT can hold us to 22 points, but I think we can hold VT to a field goal less than 30. I'm looking for a score in the neighborhood of Duke 28, VT 27, which equals 55. So that's a longwinded way of saying, I recommend Duke and the over.
    Bob Green
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  12. #32
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    Duke at Virginia Tech

    One thing I have noticed this season was how well Anthony Boone handles himself and his teammates. Expect him to play a lot more as the season progresses. http://bluedevilnation.net/2012/10/b...anthony-boone/ Here is an interview with Anthony from todays presser.

    He may well start in Blacksburg and he's splitting practice snaps with Renfree this week. FWIW, motel rooms, one star rooms are going for 150 plus and you still have a thirty minute ride to the stadium. With the noonish start, forget trying to drive up the day of the game unless you leave when it is still quite dark. Go Devils. beat the Hokies.

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    About 64.5 hours to kick-off, so it is time to bump this thread back to the top. For the third week in a row, Duke plays an extremely important game. Virginia Tech is vulnerable:

    http://www2.timesdispatch.com/sports...or-ar-2263626/

    And we are overdue for a victory over the Hokies!
    Bob Green
    United States Navy (Retired)
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  14. #34
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    Finally watched the video of Cut's Tuesday press conference. How can you not love this guy? Talks about bowls, VT, basketball team, recruiting, etc. But above all, he makes you believe in Fuke and in doing it the right way.

    I can see why folks would run through a wall for this guy. Which is what we will need in Blacksburg.
    "What, me worry?" -- Roy Williams

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    Saturday can't get here fast enough.

    Prediction: 31-24 Duke. If I were a betting man, at the very least I'd bet on Duke to beat the spread.

    In a related topic, FIU is 1-5 this season, with their lone win coming against Akron, another 1-5 team. I'm getting used to Cutcliffe being very liberal with his praise on upcoming opponents, but that one was apparently way off.
    "Nothing could be more misdirected than a self-directed life." - Lewis Sperry Chafer

  16. #36
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    I've read that IF the Hokies win, it will be their 200th in Lane Stadium. Obviously they have plenty of other reasons to pull out the victory, but I hate playing milemarker games like that. Looking forward to us to being the spoilers of their bicentennial party.
    Mmmm, BBQ!

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by DukeSean View Post
    In a related topic, FIU is 1-5 this season, with their lone win coming against Akron, another 1-5 team. I'm getting used to Cutcliffe being very liberal with his praise on upcoming opponents, but that one was apparently way off.
    Well, to be fair, it wasn't only Cutcliffe praising FIU - they received several votes in the AP Top 25 pre-season poll, so he was likely agreeing with the masses. And, yeah, Duke historically is not a school to take any team lightly.

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    Field Position

    Will Monday and Ross Martin had great days kicking the ball against Virginia and it would go a long way toward securing a win in Blacksburg if they repeat their performances this Saturday. Field position is so important. Virginia Tech is #2 in the conference in Punt Return Average and #3 in Kickoff Returns so our coverage teams need to be ready to go.
    Bob Green
    United States Navy (Retired)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Will Monday and Ross Martin had great days kicking the ball against Virginia and it would go a long way toward securing a win in Blacksburg if they repeat their performances this Saturday. Field position is so important. Virginia Tech is #2 in the conference in Punt Return Average and #3 in Kickoff Returns so our coverage teams need to be ready to go.
    I'd love to see Isaac Blakeney blow up a couple of their punt/KO returns. In fact, I hope we have a lot of KO that he can destroy.
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  20. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Will Monday and Ross Martin had great days kicking the ball against Virginia and it would go a long way toward securing a win in Blacksburg if they repeat their performances this Saturday. Field position is so important. Virginia Tech is #2 in the conference in Punt Return Average and #3 in Kickoff Returns so our coverage teams need to be ready to go.
    Look for a great day for our M&Ms. They're among the best in the country.

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