What will be cancelled first? (TV thread)

[JasonEvans]

I ant this to have its own home, so plenty of folks see it, but it can be merged into the Fall TV thread in a little bit.

The Fall TV season has officially begun this week so I am soliciting guesses as to what TV show will be removed from the air first. Only shows on the 4 major networks count. If a show gets shelved so that its remaining episodes can be shown Saturdays at 10pm on USA Network or Bravo, that counts as being cancelled. If there is some dispute as to whether a show has been cancelled or merely put on temporary hiatus, we can all discuss it and come to a conclusion.

I think it only fair that everyone put in their guesses by Monday night, so you have a few days to consider your choices.

Here are the new shows on TV so far --

Sunday -
10pm - ABC - 666 Park Avenue

Monday -
830pm - CBS - Partners
9pm - Fox - Mob Doctor
10pm - NBC - Revolution

Tuesday -
830pm - Fox - Ben & Kate
9pm - NBC - Go On
930pm - NBC - New Normal
930pm - Fox - Mindy Project
10pm - CBS - Vegas

Wednesday -
8pm - NBC - Animal Practice
830pm - NBC - Guys with Kids
830pm - ABC - Neighbors
10pm - NBC - Chicago Fire
10pm - ABC - Nashville

Thursday -
8pm - ABC - Last Resort
10pm - CBS - Elementary

Friday -
9pm - CBS - Made in Jersey

-Jason "did I get all of that right? Did I miss any shows? I am obviously not counting mid-season replacement shows" Evans

[Duvall]

Is there really demand for yet another thread on this board that obsesses over the commercial aspects of mass culture to the exclusion of artistic considerations?

[JasonEvans]

Is there really demand for yet another thread on this board that obsesses over the commercial aspects of mass culture to the exclusion of artistic considerations?

Yup! Don't like it? Don't read it.

-Jason

[BD80]

Is there really demand for yet another thread on this board that obsesses over the commercial aspects of mass culture to the exclusion of artistic considerations?

Sure beats another thread predicting starting line-ups and minutes for players - and yes I do ignore those (but the "debate" flairs up in dozens of other threads)

[duke74]

Watched "Elementary" last night. To this non-expert, it was clever with interesting characters..especially since most viewers would be comparing to the traditional character roles...Chinese-American born Watson, for example...

[brevity]

Surprisingly, nothing sticks out at me as the obvious goner.

I think FOX stays put. They seem to have hit on something with the Tuesday night female-centric 2-hour comedy block, which appears at first glance to be more seamless than anything the other networks are doing. I don't have long-term hopes for The Mob Doctor, which I think is miscast in a few places, and has an unsustainable double-life premise. However, William Forsythe is B-list coolness, and the first episode does something so awesome that I had to give it a chance.

I'm inclined not to pick an NBC show because they are so desperate for scripted TV success that they'll give their new inexpensive (read: half-hour) shows some free rein. And their one risk, Revolution, is doing better than expected. This leaves Chicago Fire as the most vulnerable, but maybe people who miss Third Watch will keep it alive.

This leaves ABC and CBS, which are successful enough that they can make a bold cut or two. CBS has completely diluted their Monday night comedy product, and Partners would appear to be the most likely casualty. I'm not sure what to make of Made in Jersey, but it should incubate nicely in that risk-free Friday night slot. ABC has a couple of expensive risks (Last Resort, 666 Park Avenue) that look hit-or-miss. And while I haven't seen The Neighbors, it could settle in to that 8:30 slot. Maybe. The alien concept doesn't bother me as much as the baggy-eyed male lead that, in Jami Gertz terms, makes Mark Addy look like an Adonis.

So, if I had to guess, I'd say that most of the new shows will survive into 2013 (Mayan prediction memes notwithstanding). Based on Jason's list, these are the ones most likely to die before then:

1. Partners (CBS)
2. Last Resort (ABC)
3. Chicago Fire (NBC)
4. The Mob Doctor (FOX)
5. The Neighbors (ABC)

Jason's mention of midseason replacement shows is interesting. A network (say, NBC) is more likely to ditch a poor performing show (say, Guys with Kids) if it has something else on deck. But I don't know what's out there.

[brevity]

So, if I had to guess, I'd say that most of the new shows will survive into 2013 (Mayan prediction memes notwithstanding). Based on Jason's list, these are the ones most likely to die before then:

1. Partners (CBS)
2. Last Resort (ABC)
3. Chicago Fire (NBC)
4. The Mob Doctor (FOX)
5. The Neighbors (ABC)

The TV industry had slightly more faith in its product than I did. Today CBS cancelled Partners, and ABC cancelled Last Resort and 666 Park Avenue.

http://tvline.com/2012/11/16/cbs-cancel-partners/
http://tvline.com/2012/11/16/last-re...nue-cancelled/

[jay]

Well, this is interesting. Made in Jersey, the awful legal serial drama on CBS, not only has the distinction of being the first show of the season to be cancelled, but now the only cancelled show to apparently receive a network resurrection order.

Link

[throatybeard]

666 Park Avenue is cancelled? Thank goodness. Now I don't have to see commercials for it during Revenge, a show that also insults the intelligence of every thinking American, but at least boasts Madeline Stowe in the cast. I watch Revenge, though I'm ashamed to admit it. But Stowe!

[bjornolf]

Watched "Elementary" last night. To this non-expert, it was clever with interesting characters..especially since most viewers would be comparing to the traditional character roles...Chinese-American born Watson, for example...

Is Lucy Liu any good in it? In the radio commercial, she strikes me as playing the same thing she always does... attractive woman who always smells something disgusting but doesn't want to mention it... kind of like Kristen Stewart but grossed out instead of dead inside.

[Duvall]

Is Lucy Liu any good in it?

She's pretty good, but the show really suffers from being Yet Another Procedural. There are already plenty of tv mysteries with an offbeat deductive genius and his sidekick, there really isn't much a reason to have another one.

[pfrduke]

We have a winner.

[Duvall]

We have a winner.

Do we? It's still possible that some luckless show may get pulled after one episode. Still, there's your clubhouse leader.

[brevity]

We have a winner.

Wow, I was way off. I watched (and sort of liked) Made in Jersey, but its second episode bore almost no resemblance to the first episode. Cast tinkering. We'll never know what it was going to eventually look like. Janet Montgomery was somewhat entertaining in Human Target, and likeable enough here. Maybe CBS will try something else with her; they certainly tried over and over with Simon Baker and Alex O'Loughlin.

That Friday lineup makes no sense anyway. Why put a lightly-toned legal show between an unwatchable CSI spinoff and a thinly-veiled (but watchable) Republican cop drama? Another unscripted reality show makes even less sense there.

Oh well. I can direct more misguided attention to The Mob Doctor when/if it returns after baseball, even if the awesome thing they did in the first episode (killing off the most annoying character, played by one of Hollywood's most annoying actors) was undone (by not actually killing him).

Do we? It's still possible that some luckless show may get pulled after one episode. Still, there's your clubhouse leader.

We do. Jason's original question ("what TV show will be removed from the air first") focused on chronology, not lifespan. So even if Chicago Fire debuts tonight and gets yanked tomorrow, Made in Jersey is the winner. Unless Jason meant something else...

[JasonEvans]

We do. Jason's original question ("what TV show will be removed from the air first") focused on chronology, not lifespan. So even if Chicago Fire debuts tonight and gets yanked tomorrow, Made in Jersey is the winner. Unless Jason meant something else...

Yup, we have a winner, errr loser, and it is Made in Jersey. Color me surprised as Friday is typically a ratings wasteland anyway. The fact that CBS had Undercover Boss just waiting to fill the spot was the reason this move was made. I am betting that ABC and Fox are looking around trying to figure out what to put in place of 666 Park and Mob Doctor, but until they come up with an answer, those shows will be allowed to live. I doubt either show will be getting an order for additional episodes though (probably an initial order of 6 or maybe 10).

-Jason "should we keep this thread going, to track how other new shows are doing?" Evans

[pfrduke]

-Jason "should we keep this thread going, to track how other new shows are doing?" Evans

I'm always up for celebrating futility and failure, so sure.

[brevity]

Add Animal Practice to the list.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/18/an...ice-cancelled/

Bad week at the Swisher household. I only feel sorry for her, though.

Bumping up the thread for 2 reasons. First: Arrow, Vegas, and Elementary were picked up for the full season.

Second...

Jason's original question ("what TV show will be removed from the air first") focused on chronology, not lifespan.

We may need a ruling here, after all. Made in Jersey was cancelled on October 10. I recently read that NBC ditched its midseason Dane Cook comedy Next Caller, with 4 episodes in the (trash) can, but it looks like that happened October 12. More interesting is what's going on with NBC's pungent Munster offering Mockingbird Lane. They've decided to broadcast the $10 million pilot episode this Friday as a stand-alone special after cancelling it as a series sometime between October 1 and October 10. But even that isn't certain; this TVLine article suggests that NBC may raise it from the dead depending on how the special does in the ratings.

[throatybeard]

Hopefully most of the new junk has been cancelled already. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that I am DVRing S2 of Revenge. I do this solely because of Madeline Stowe.

[Olympic Fan]

She's pretty good, but the show really suffers from being Yet Another Procedural. There are already plenty of tv mysteries with an offbeat deductive genius and his sidekick, there really isn't much a reason to have another one.

Actually, it's the only new show this season that I like.

Yeah, it's pretty much the same police procedural with a gimmick ... a modern Holmes and Watson. But so far it's been well written and the characters are likeable. I'll keep watching until the writing declines ... or they cancel it.

[hurleyfor3]

Is there really demand for yet another thread on this board that obsesses over the commercial aspects of mass culture to the exclusion of artistic considerations?

If you've got a better idea, why not start a thread about it.