I know Iím asking for trouble, but Iíve got to ask this question. Having read the UNC scandal thread as well as the Penn State thread. What makes all of you think that something like this couldnít happen at Duke?
During my lifetime experiences serving 20 years in the Army and now working 19 years for a Fortune 500 corporation, I hold the view that large institutions have a very hard time policing themselves and that they often will look to take the easy way out when trouble rears its ugly head.
I cannot say that is what JoePa did, I don't have the facts, but IMO, K would have handled it much different by taking command of the situation from the start.
With your time in the Army, you must have seen leaders like this. Leaders who did the right thing regardless of the impact on their careers. The ones you respected immediately, not the political kiss tails. You probably saw others that would do whatever they had to do to CYA. I know I did in the Navy. Fortunately the CYA'ers were in the minority in my experience.
Anything is possible, but I think the answer to your question is coach K, that is why it wouldn't have gone as far as it did at PSU.
The best part of the show is the halftime, when Bobby Knight and Jay Bilas are giving Hubert Davis the business about the multiple cans of whoop-butt that were being opened by Duke.
Eat Mor Jonny.
half time show not included with itunes edition.....
"Either we're going down, or they are....... Kirk out!"
I also bought the game on iTunes and was bummed that they didn't include the halftime show. My favorite part was when Bobby Knight tears up his game notes and says he has no idea what UNC should do. My other favorite part of that night was getting on Inside Carolina and reading their in-game thread as we were ripping them apart.
As a junior/senior during this time, I can tell you that the Duke Lacrosse Scandal was devastating to the staff, the students, the alumni, the city of Durham, and certainly the athletic department.
Although innocent, the whole incident left a terrible scar on Duke athletics, which is why I think that a UNC-type case (or, God forbid, a PSU-type case) will not happen at Duke.
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill
President of the "Nolan Smith Should Have His Jersey in The Rafters" Club
As for some of the other more recent posts on this thread, 82-50 was a glorious night! For Duke fans, for State fans, for Wake fans, and anyone else who wanted to see those guys taken down a peg. Didn't last long - not until Austin Rivers took the shot.
Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!
Was it last summer when Tar Heels were jumping all over Coach K for what was a minor (at most) infraction (if it was even determined to be so...)? Funny how recent trips to IC have yielded *nada* about the current state of affairs in the UNC athletics program. Maybe the yokels over there are in denial that BASKETBALL players were taking these shady classes? Regardless of how this all plays out, I consider this to be a major trump card for future "discussions" with UNC fans about the relative merits of both programs
God bless those Pack fans sifting through the muck to bring this to light!
UNC maintains that you can't "prove" from the emails that Jennifer Wiley did more than "re-format" the paper discussed above (although the original version by the athlete was double-spaced).
The UNC current AD says all students in the AFAM curricula were given assignments and completed those assignments.
UNC still maintains that the classes were setup for all students.
The uncovering of the UNC coverup by State fans and by the N&O will be a lot of fun - stay tuned.
I stand corrected. A thread on IC about these shenanigans has finally emerged: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=9139039 A lotta "everyone cheats" excusing and pot shots at the academic credentials at State. When you have emeritus faculty claiming that this is the worst case of academic fraud in the university's history then I believe that this goes deeper than a couple of "crip" courses offered to atheletes...
Do the students that took these classes get to keep their degrees? Does the NCAA adjust their APR calculations?
Atakwenda motoni Carolina!
"With seven national titles and 20 Final Fours in the 64-team NCAA Tournament era, Duke and UNC have had more playoff success than any other CONFERENCE." - Al Featherston