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    Montrezl Harrel decides not to come to VT

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/ba...ntrezl-harrell

    the top recruit for VT this year decides not to come now.. 8 scholarship players now

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofurman View Post
    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/ba...ntrezl-harrell

    the top recruit for VT this year decides not to come now.. 8 scholarship players now
    Interesting. Wonder if NCSU is back in the picture and what this might mean for Amile Jefferson. Hmm...
    Not leaving until the game is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Interesting. Wonder if NCSU is back in the picture and what this might mean for Amile Jefferson. Hmm...
    NC State can have Amile if it meant Duke could get Harrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo.st.dukie View Post
    NC State can have Amile if it meant Duke could get Harrel.
    I would love to have a rebounder with the name Montrezl on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo.st.dukie View Post
    NC State can have Amile if it meant Duke could get Harrel.
    I thought his release stipulated that he couldn't transfer to any other ACC team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartDevil View Post
    I thought his release stipulated that he couldn't transfer to any other ACC team.
    This is what I've read in other places (note that technically he's not transferring since he hasn't started anywhere. He'll just be signing with a different school).

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    This is what I've read in other places (note that technically he's not transferring since he hasn't started anywhere. He'll just be signing with a different school).
    havent researched this? since it is just a back out of a LOI can he be prevented from going to an acc school?? (since its not a transfer?) thanks for insight

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    harrell

    Harrell will NOT be transferring within the ACC.

    The conference has in at least three instances in the last three years blocked players who have signed LOIs from transferring from within the conference:

    (1) Gus Gilchrist tried to transfer from Virginia Tech to Maryland and was even willing to sit out a year -- the ACC ruled that he would have to sit out two years and lose a year of eligibility.

    (2) When Oliver Purnell left Clemson Marcus Thornton tried to get out of his LOI and go to Georgia Tech. The ACC said no and he went to Georgia.

    (3) When Al Skinner was fired at BC, Minnesota big man Kevin Noreen announced he was not going to BC and he wanted to look at a number of ACC schools. The ACC said no -- and he wound up at West Virginia.

    On the record, a number of ACC coaches have complained about this practice -- and you'd think that the ACC would want to keep the best players in the league -- but the policy has not changed.

    Besides, in the case of Duke, there are academic concerns that make it most unlikely that the Blue Devils would be involved even if the ACC would allow it.

    As for Virginia Tech -- I think this is a devasting loss for a team that I thought might be a sleeper in the ACC. A week ago, they looked great in the post with Cadarian Raines (who played well after replacing Davila at center), Dorian Finney-Smith (not much of a scorer, but a great rebounjder/defender) and the incoming Harrell. Now Finney-Smith and Harrell are gone, meaning C.J. Barksdale has to move up from the No. 4 to the No. 2 post player -- and I don't even know who is No. 3.

    They still have a solid PG in senior Erick Green, but their wings are weak (Eddie is okay, but Brown didn't show much as a freshman and Wood is just a so-so prospect) and now their post is Raines and not much else. They are no longer one of my sleepers -- I see them battling Wake Forest and BC for 10th-11th-12th place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofurman View Post
    havent researched this? since it is just a back out of a LOI can he be prevented from going to an acc school?? (since its not a transfer?) thanks for insight
    Haven't researched so this is just my understanding... a player cannot just "back out" of an LOI, he has to request and be granted a release from the school. The school could say no, in which case he'd have to come. So the school can also grant a conditional release and stipulate what schools he cannot sign with.

    I wasn't aware of the ACC also getting involved in these types of situations. Good info.

    And yeah, forget about him coming to Duke.

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    Harrell to UL

    Harrell signs on with Pitino. Note, however, the interesting discussion of the scholarship "logjam."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...lle-bonus-size

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    riddle me this.....did he actually SIGN the LOI? or just agree to financial assistance?
    "Either we're going down, or they are....... Kirk out!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonpie23 View Post
    riddle me this.....did he actually SIGN the LOI? or just agree to financial assistance?
    Dave Telep uses the word "signed," but signed what, exactly, I can't tell.

    https://twitter.com/DaveTelep/status/209626625497767936

    Pitino also after Finney-Smith.

    http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/06/04/f...to-louisville/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumbomoop View Post
    Harrell signs on with Pitino. Note, however, the interesting discussion of the scholarship "logjam."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...lle-bonus-size
    Logjam "solved:"

    http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...sfers/related/

    Looks like Pitino is taking a year of eligibility from Stephen Van Treese, who redshirted last year because of knee issues. Forcing him to transfer "for his own good" - because he won't get the 30 mpg he can get elsewhere. Van Treese has two years of eligibility left, but won't he lose one to transfer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Logjam "solved:"

    http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...sfers/related/

    Looks like Pitino is taking a year of eligibility from Stephen Van Treese, who redshirted last year because of knee issues. Forcing him to transfer "for his own good" - because he won't get the 30 mpg he can get elsewhere. Van Treese has two years of eligibility left, but won't he lose one to transfer?
    Not if he transfers to a D-2 school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Logjam "solved:"

    http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...sfers/related/

    Looks like Pitino is taking a year of eligibility from Stephen Van Treese, who redshirted last year because of knee issues. Forcing him to transfer "for his own good" - because he won't get the 30 mpg he can get elsewhere. Van Treese has two years of eligibility left, but won't he lose one to transfer?
    The author correctly notes that "Pitino is going to be ripped for this," proceeds, appropriately, to rip him, but then, surprisingly, softens the criticism by saying "Pitino does have a point" and "I don't have a major problem with Pitino telling Swopshire to transfer...."

    The author's emphasis on how the coaches have the power and the players get screwed is surely accurate. This case is pretty ugly.

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