Obama landslide (310 + electoral votes)
Obama comfortable win (290-310 EVs)
Obama close win (279-290 EVs)
Obama barely wins (270 + 278 EVs)
Exact tie 269-269
Romney barely wins (270 + 278 EVs)
Romney close win (279-290 EVs)
Romney comfortable win (290-310 EVs)
Romney landslide (310 + electoral votes)
I worked at a major news organization for 20+ years where the vast majority of the people I worked with were extremely liberal. But, anyone who tried to shout down the conservatives among us would have been very short for their job.
-Jason "I probably overreacted a bit -- sorry" Evans
Republicans challenging early voting in Ohio have been dealt a setback, as the Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal of an earlier lower court ruling that required voting be made available to all Ohio voters, not merely military members, during the final weekend before Election Day (generally, the busiest period of early voting).
As discussed here a few days ago, early in-person voting historically skews heavily Democratic, so this is a pretty clear victory for Democrats in what is commonly seen as the most important swing state this election cycle.
As we prepare for the debate... a few more choice cartoons.
-Jason "there are a million more with the same theme -- Obama was sleeping during the first debate" Evans
Section 21 will once again be up and running during the debate tonight. (Hell, it's up 24-7.) Don't know if anyone was in there for the VP show since I was busy staring down the chimney of my bbq smoker, but we had a fun crowd for the first one. Just as in this thread, keep things civil. Unless you are talking about penguins..they are truly evil.
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I have posted conservative horse-race observations and liberal ones. No problems. If someone is getting dinged, it probably has more to do with approach than substance, or losing sight of the fact that this thread is about the horse race -- not which horse should win on merits.
JMHO. This thread and the Primary thread have been fairly moderated and I am thankful we have had this enlightening discussion with many very good posts.
Eat Mor Jonny.
Candy Crowley certainly listened to the media. Not letting Mitt get the last word on the first topic and pushing the debate on. This will certainly change the strategy of be the loudest and emphatic.
Obama pwning Romney so far. Although my take has been counter-mainstream so far this debate season.
Eat Mor Jonny.
.....and while the President is much more animated, focused and competitive in this debate versus the last, Romney's economic angle may resonate more loudly with the independent, indecisive voter. Based on his business success and experience, he comes across as confident in helping us get back to work. I am enjoying a more competitive back and forth between both candidates!
Obama looked very strong, Mitt looked wobbly and kinda petulant. Candy did well but will be attacked as pro-Dem.
As you know, I've been counter-everyone for the first two so probably am now.
Wish the Libertarian was also involved on the debates, would help push both candidates here.
Aside: as I type this, is Mitt really arguing that companies would rather move to Canada than stay here?!?
Eat Mor Jonny.
I thought Candy was a nice breath of fresh air but she did come in on behalf of Obama a few times (I wish there would be fact checkers for this but no doubt she'll be crucified.)
But I think the biggest thing will be Mitt looking petulant on the taxes and Libya. He looked as if he was trying to get Obama on semantics or a technicality while Obama came out looking as more worried about the big picture and not whether he said "act of terror" or "terrorist act" or where he has investments.
But I really liked how she stopped them. I understand Lehrer trying to let them talk in the first debate, but that just didn't work since both just talked in circles and moved way off base. I thought they stayed on course and got to the issues.
But I don't understand why this is becoming a huge issue. Why does it matter when it is declared terrorism? Would it have changed what we did? Does it really matter what he said in the speech? Personally, I like the fact Obama waited a bit because I think he has been too quick to judge such as the Henry Gates Louis case when he spoke without knowing all the facts.
Just a bizarre moment for Romney, and one that I don't think will play out in the media as a tie. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I just don't see that point as a wash.
Libya, immigration, whatever, this year and right now, we have to get America working again and this is Issue #1. And forget any moderator's influence! We all tend to focus on the ump or the referee waaay too much in competitive contests in general: the bottom-line always goes back to the points up on the scoreboard. I really did appreciate this debate tonight because both were really competitive.