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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Thanks. Where are the pitch stats coming from?
    The stats are all from baseball-reference.
    This link has the NL stats, as well as individual qualified pitchers - http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml

    In terms of what it all means, who knows, but guys like Nolan Ryan and Tom Seaver have talked about how you really have to consider the stress of the innings (or pitches) thrown, so no matter how finely you break down the absolute numbers, it's still an incomplete picture without considering the situation those numbers occurred in.
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  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by dukebsbll14 View Post
    ... I think its entirely realistic that the O's pick up one of the wildcard spots and make the post season for the first time since 1996, especially if someone like Greinke is added. But their starting pitching has to improve. ...
    As I write this, the O's indeed would have the last wildcard slot if the season ended right now (5th in the 14-team AL). That said, the simple rating system at baseball-reference.com pegs them as the 10th best team in the 14-team league right now, and the "poff" at espn pegs their make-the-playoffs chance at 11%, higher than only 3 other AL teams. Looks like an uphill climb. If they add some talent, and if the pitching comes around, obviously chances improve. Still, fun to watch for O's fans after 14 straight losing seasons.

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  4. #224

    Greinke's rubber arm

    Zack Geinke started for Miluwakee Friday night and went five innings (no decision) against the Pirates.

    That was noteable because it waas the third straight Brewers game that Greinke started. That's he first time a picher has started three straight games in the Big Leagues since Red Faber stated three straight for the White Sox in 1917.

    Of course, Greinke's streak is kind of a fluke. He made his regular start last Saturday, but was ejected from the game after facing two batters (he reacted angrily on a close play at first ... he later told the ump that he was mad at himself).

    After such a short outing and with the All-Star break coming up, the Brewers started him Sunday. This time, Grenke lasted three innings and faced 16 batters.

    With four days off for the All-Star break, he was able to come back Friday. He went five innings this time. During the streak, Greinke got one loss (last Saturday) and two no decisions.

    There is some speculation that the Brewers are trying to showcase Greinke before the trade deadline. Maybe they're trying to show he can be a closer -- pitchin in every game.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Take me out to the ball game
    Memo to Orioles fans: Camden looks great after the clean-up and refurbishment. It's always been a beautiful park and is back to it's original lustre. But please, what the what has happened to your food? The crab cake is okay but the dogs are gross. The Pollack Joe sausages are an embarrassment and your taps are flat, FLAT I tell you!!! Also, how about sequestering the smokers farther away from normal humans? It stinks all through the tunnels.

    Other than that great game last night! A few more outings like that for Fister and I may allow him to become engaged to my daughter again!

  6. #226

    Braves to trade fr Upton?

    It's an insider article, so I can't link it, but according to ESPN's Buston Olney, the Braves are in the best position to land Justin Upton. Olney claims the Braves the Braves are trying to make a deal that would send Martin Prado and Julio Teheran to Arizona for Upton.

    How about if Braves fans? Would you make that deal?

    Also, they suggest that Atlanta is trying to make a short-term deal for a shortstop ... Simmons is out for a month.

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    AL Wild Card talk

    Now that we are into the second half and because there are now two wild card teams to be decided, I think it is worth noting that some surprising teams are in the hunt at the moment. Certainly the Orioles and the A's are surprises. My A's and Weezie's Tigs are both two games over .500 and are only 1-1/2 games behind the two wild card leaders, Angels and Orioles, both tied at the moment. There are some others in the hunt as well, the Rays and the Indians are both a hair better, while the Sawks and the Jays a little worse, but not very far back. The Royals, Twins and Mariners are back in the dust

    But it's still early, and the trade deadline is fast approaching, so we won't know until the end of the month who is buying and who is selling. We'll all have a better bead on it after the trade deadline.

    FWIW, the A's are the hottest AL team at the moment, having won 8 of their last 10. They do have trouble ahead in their schedule as through the end of the month they play the entire AL East (except Boston) plus Texas. They must face the league leaders, Texas and New York, as well as the Jays, O's and Rays, all of whom are .500 or better. So far, the A's pitching has been good and in the past three weeks or so they have found some power and timely hitting.

    I do not, however, trust Lew Wolff and John Fisher to make the run they could. They are still looking to move to San Jose. A losing team and falling attendance is the best strategy for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    It's an insider article, so I can't link it, but according to ESPN's Buston Olney, the Braves are in the best position to land Justin Upton. Olney claims the Braves the Braves are trying to make a deal that would send Martin Prado and Julio Teheran to Arizona for Upton.

    How about if Braves fans? Would you make that deal?

    Also, they suggest that Atlanta is trying to make a short-term deal for a shortstop ... Simmons is out for a month.
    Makes no sense. Why deal for an outfielder? The Braves already have one of the top outfields in all of baseball. Is Upton really that much of an improvement over Prado this year? Plus, I think the Braves want to hold onto the very versatile Prado for now and then plug him in at 3B full time next year when Chipper retires.

    They are picking up a minor league SS who is a defensive star from the Reds to hold them over until Simmons returns.

    -Jason "they are likely to deal for a starter, not an OFer" Evans
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  9. #229

    Barves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    -Jason "they are likely to deal for a starter, not an OFer" Evans
    Thanks for the input on the proposed deal for Upton ... as for the starter issue, don't you think that may depend on how Ben Sheets (getting his first start today) performs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Makes no sense. Why deal for an outfielder? The Braves already have one of the top outfields in all of baseball. Is Upton really that much of an improvement over Prado this year? Plus, I think the Braves want to hold onto the very versatile Prado for now and then plug him in at 3B full time next year when Chipper retires.
    It makes sense because Prado is a good player that will be a free agent in 2013, while Upton is a potentially great player that will be a free agent in 2015. Still, the Braves may have bigger needs elsewhere.

  11. #231

    Sheets

    Wow, some debut -- in his first start since 2010, Ben Sheets goes six inniings -- giving up two hits and no runs (one walk and five strikeouts). The Braves beat Johann Santana and the Mets 6-1.

    Maybe Atlanta's need for another starter is not quite as urgent as it was this morning.

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    It is still July and it feels sorta silly to be talking about a "must win" series for any contending team, but I think the Mets are in a must-win series situation against the Nats starting tonight.

    Thanks to a 3-game sweep by the Braves over the weekend, the Mets now find themselves 6 games back of the Nats and 3.5/3 games behind the Brarves/Pirates for the Wild Cards. They can't afford to continue to lose ground because there are just too many teams ahead of them in the standings (Cards and Dodgers also ahead of them in the Wild Card chase).

    After their 3 game set with the Nats, the Mets go home for 3 with the Dodgers and another 3 with the Nats. The next 9 games are just HUGE for the Mets if they are to get back in touch with the leading playoff contenders. I think they need to go 5-4 in those games and might even need a 6-3 kinda run to really get back in the hunt.

    -Jason "the Pirates and Dodgers have a much easier road to the playoffs than the Braves and Mets because of the 4 lousy teams at the bottom of the Central and West... no one like that in the NL East" Evans
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  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    ... the Pirates and Dodgers have a much easier road to the playoffs than the Braves and Mets ...
    If I'm reading baseball-reference.com right, here's the average record of the opponents left for the ...

    Pirates: 42-48
    Dodgers: 44-45
    Braves: 44-46
    Mets: 45-44

    So from here on out, sort of equal (Pirates easiest). I guess you meant overall, to get to this point? For what it's worth, the "poff" at espn lists the playoff chances as Pirates 73%, Braves 62%, Dodgers 28%, and Mets 25%.

  14. #234

    the big off-season trade

    As a Yankee fan, I've obviously been disappointed as to how our big off-season deal has turned out.

    Michael Pineda, who was supposed to be the No. 2 pitcher in the rotation (and perhaps our future ace) underwent shoulder surgery and will miss the season. Jose Campos, the 19-year-old minor league phenom included in the deal was shut down in May with a sore elbow.

    So basically, the Yankees have gotten nothing for the deal ... so far.

    On the bright side (for Yankee fans) it looks like the team didn't really give up that much. Jesus Montero, the much-hyped slugger whose departure infuriated so many Yankee fans, has been awfuly mediocre for the Mariners. Through half the season, he's hitting .253 with 8 homers and 30 RBIs. He has a dreadful (for a DH) 678 OPS and an OPS-plus of just 92). That's far worse than the Yankee DH platoon (usually righty Andruw Jones -- 855 OPS or lefty Eric Chavez -- .848 OPS).

    Hector Noesi, who also went to Seattle in the deal, has been terrible -- he's 2-11 with a 5.77 ERA.

    Montera might get better -- he has actually been an effective hitter against lefties (.355 BA, although with little power). Of course, that just reflects to how helpless he's been against righthanded pitching. The Mariners have given him 33 start at catcher -- and if he could play the posiiton, his batting stats wouldn't look so bad, but he's been a terrible defensive catcher.

    Anyway, just wanted to take a moment to breathe a sigh of relief. It doesn't look like we blew it big time, even with the problems for Pineda and Campos. In the long term, if either bounce back we could still win the deal in the long run. Good sign -- Pineda, who has been in Florida rehabbing, showed up in the Yankee clubhouse last week. He says the rehab is going well -- maybe, what reporters noticed was that the had lost a ton of weight. He was overweight last year at Seattle and that might have worn him down. He was overweight in spring and that might have contributed to his injury. Good news that he's now trim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    As a Yankee fan, I've obviously been disappointed as to how our big off-season deal has turned out.

    Michael Pineda, who was supposed to be the No. 2 pitcher in the rotation (and perhaps our future ace) underwent shoulder surgery and will miss the season. Jose Campos, the 19-year-old minor league phenom included in the deal was shut down in May with a sore elbow.

    So basically, the Yankees have gotten nothing for the deal ... so far.

    On the bright side (for Yankee fans) it looks like the team didn't really give up that much. Jesus Montero, the much-hyped slugger whose departure infuriated so many Yankee fans, has been awfuly mediocre for the Mariners. Through half the season, he's hitting .253 with 8 homers and 30 RBIs. He has a dreadful (for a DH) 678 OPS and an OPS-plus of just 92). That's far worse than the Yankee DH platoon (usually righty Andruw Jones -- 855 OPS or lefty Eric Chavez -- .848 OPS).

    Hector Noesi, who also went to Seattle in the deal, has been terrible -- he's 2-11 with a 5.77 ERA.

    Montera might get better -- he has actually been an effective hitter against lefties (.355 BA, although with little power). Of course, that just reflects to how helpless he's been against righthanded pitching. The Mariners have given him 33 start at catcher -- and if he could play the posiiton, his batting stats wouldn't look so bad, but he's been a terrible defensive catcher.

    Anyway, just wanted to take a moment to breathe a sigh of relief. It doesn't look like we blew it big time, even with the problems for Pineda and Campos. In the long term, if either bounce back we could still win the deal in the long run. Good sign -- Pineda, who has been in Florida rehabbing, showed up in the Yankee clubhouse last week. He says the rehab is going well -- maybe, what reporters noticed was that the had lost a ton of weight. He was overweight last year at Seattle and that might have worn him down. He was overweight in spring and that might have contributed to his injury. Good news that he's now trim.
    On Montero, it's worth noting that (like essentially every Mariner) his home/road splits are quite skewed. Everywhere other than Safeco Field, he's hitting .297/.338/.432 with a 117 OPS+, which is pretty darn good for a 22-year-old in his first full ML season. The problem is that he has to spend half his games hitting in the offensive suppression machine that is the Mariners home stadium, where he's a remarkably poor .206/.247/.333 and 56 OPS+.

    Amazingly enough, that home line makes Montero an above average Mariners hitter in Seattle. They cannot hit the ball at all at home (a problem when they spend half their games there). As a team, the collective home line is .196/.275/.288, with just 126 runs in 44 games. On the road, they're actually decent - .258/.309/.422, and over 100 more runs in just 4 more games (238 in 48). Stick this team in any other park in the league, and they're a good offense - if you projected their road performance across all 92 games they've played, they'd have 456 runs, which would tie with Texas for most in the major leagues (although Texas, Boston, and NY are probably ahead in R/G).
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  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    .. They cannot hit the ball at all at home (a problem when they spend half their games there). ...
    Do other teams have the same trouble hitting in the Mariners's stadium? Or is this just some sort of odd thing where other teams can hit there, but the Mariners cannot. Basically, what's the collective batting line of all the opponents in that ballpark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Do other teams have the same trouble hitting in the Mariners's stadium? Or is this just some sort of odd thing where other teams can hit there, but the Mariners cannot. Basically, what's the collective batting line of all the opponents in that ballpark?
    Safeco suppresses all offense.

    Mariners' splits
    Safeco: .196/.275/.288
    Not Safeco: .258/.309/.422
    Difference .062/.034/.134

    Mariners' opponents' splits
    Safeco: .221/.282/.331
    Not Safeco: .267/.330/.458
    Difference: .046/.048/.117
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    Hooray for small sample size confirmation! Mariners at Kansas City tonight: .341/.357/.610 with 7 runs; Montero .400/.400/.400.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    It is still July and it feels sorta silly to be talking about a "must win" series for any contending team, but I think the Mets are in a must-win series situation against the Nats starting tonight.

    Thanks to a 3-game sweep by the Braves over the weekend, the Mets now find themselves 6 games back of the Nats and 3.5/3 games behind the Brarves/Pirates for the Wild Cards. They can't afford to continue to lose ground because there are just too many teams ahead of them in the standings (Cards and Dodgers also ahead of them in the Wild Card chase).

    After their 3 game set with the Nats, the Mets go home for 3 with the Dodgers and another 3 with the Nats. The next 9 games are just HUGE for the Mets if they are to get back in touch with the leading playoff contenders. I think they need to go 5-4 in those games and might even need a 6-3 kinda run to really get back in the hunt.

    -Jason "the Pirates and Dodgers have a much easier road to the playoffs than the Braves and Mets because of the 4 lousy teams at the bottom of the Central and West... no one like that in the NL East" Evans
    Well, the Nats have taken the first two of the series, dropping the Mets to 8 games back and in danger of dropping below .500 soon if they can't right the ship from this 6-game losing streak. The good news for the Mets is that, if the Nationals stay true to form, today will be a Mets win. For some reason, the Nats have trouble sweeping series, especially at home. They're something like 1-8 in potential sweep games at home this year, which is just weird.

    Atlanta has lost two in a row now to drop 4.5 back of the Nats, so the upcoming 4 game series looks even bigger and more important to the Braves if they're going to keep up the pace. They should face Strasburg, Jackson, Lannan, and Detweiler. Strasburg is Strasburg. Jackson has been susceptible to giving up the big inning of late, but otherwise, he's been decent. Lannan should be added to the roster specifically to deal with the double header on Saturday. He's been inconsistent down at AAA Syracuse, so we'll see if he can take advantage of this opportunity to make a bid for getting back into the rotation in September when Strasburg is idled. Detweiler had his best outing of the year in his last game, so we'll see how he looks in the follow-up.

    Another Nats note: Storen could be back in the bullpen as soon as tonight. The suddenly shaky Clippard gave up 2 solo homers in his one inning last night, almost blowing his second save in a row after closing out in his first 14 straight chances since taking over the closer role. The addition of Storen, assuming he's really healthy and ready to resume pitching, couldn't come at a better time.

    One more note: Jayson Werth took BP before last night's game, albeit with a lighter bat. Apparently, he's ready to begin his minor league rehab assignment and could be back in the majors in time for the Nats game in Philly on July 24th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBDuke View Post
    Well, the Nats have taken the first two of the series, dropping the Mets to 8 games back and in danger of dropping below .500 soon if they can't right the ship from this 6-game losing streak. The good news for the Mets is that, if the Nationals stay true to form, today will be a Mets win. For some reason, the Nats have trouble sweeping series, especially at home. They're something like 1-8 in potential sweep games at home this year, which is just weird...
    Sure enough, the Nats blew the sweep by losing to the Mets this afternoon. This trend is just bizarre. The Nats scored enough to win - 5 runs on 14 hits is usually good enough with their pitching - but All-Star Gio Gonzalez couldn't locate his pitches and gave up 6 ER in 3.1 innings today - possibly his worst outing of the season.

    On to Atlanta, starting tomorrow night.
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