All is right with the world (as Order Was Restored in April 2010)

[dynastydefender]

20 years to the day after Laettner and "The Shot"

Now I have to change my avatar!!

GO BIG BLUE

[hurleyfor3]

We're flattered that you felt the need to post to DBR within 10 minutes of your team winning the title.

[LSanders]

Promise to come back within 10 minutes of when the title is vacated too?

[uh_no]

too bad kentucky putting 5 guys in the draft was the greatest day in UK basketball history...i mean, after that, this title is really nothing special

[blazindw]

Promise to come back within 10 minutes of when the title is vacated too?

Even Nike thinks it's gonna be in dispute sooner or later...they truly have a sense of humor!

http://www.fanatics.com/COLLEGE_Kent...t_-_Royal_Blue

[weezie]

I'll say!

Detroit Tigers...home opener at Comerica Park, Thursday April 5. 2011 MYP and Cy Young winner, Justin Verlander to take the mound

[superdave]

We should change the title of this thread to say "Official UK Troll Thread."

Good for the kids at UK. Bad for college basketball because Calipari's lack of respect for education is vindicated.

[miramar]

We should change the title of this thread to say "Official UK Troll Thread."

Good for the kids at UK. Bad for college basketball because Calipari's lack of respect for education is vindicated.

More and more programs are going to follow suit, whether they want to or not. Is it too early to start calling it the sport formerly known as college basketball?

[superdave]

More and more programs are going to follow suit, whether they want to or not. Is it too early to start calling it the sport formerly known as college basketball?

I dont think you can have more than 1 or 2 teams follow this model. The last Anthony Davis to come along in college was Greg Oden. He was the runner-up in 2007 to juniors Joakim Noah and Al Horford.

The other dominant freshmen - John Wall's UK team lost in the Elite 8 and had 4 freshmen turn pro, Rose was the only elite freshman on his runner-up team, Irving was the only elite one on his Duke team. Guys like Kevin Durant, Mike Beasley and OJ Mayo played on average teams that made no tourney-time splash.

So no, I do not think it's possible for more than a team or two, and even then their track record is one title - this year's UK team is the first to load up on elite freshmen and actually win it all.

[devildeac]

Even Nike thinks it's gonna be in dispute sooner or later...they truly have a sense of humor!

http://www.fanatics.com/COLLEGE_Kent...t_-_Royal_Blue

Along the same line of thinking, perhaps Nike would consider re-cycling this one:

Order Has Been Restored (*)

[Cameron]

We're flattered that you felt the need to post to DBR within 10 minutes of your team winning the title.

I guess it beats the alternative forms of celebration in which dynastydefender could have been participating in Lexington...

Per ESPN:

On Saturday night, rowdy fans swarming the streets overturned cars and torched couches after the Wildcats defeated rival Louisville in a national semifinal game.

After the championship game, numerous small fires were set, dozens were arrested and one man was wounded by gunfire as fans again filled the streets near campus.

If they win it all again next year, maybe there'll be a murder. They do it big. I'll give the Commonwealth that.

[msdukie]

20 years to the day after Laettner and "The Shot"

Now I have to change my avatar!!

GO BIG BLUE

So, today is March 28?

Nice to see the first thing you think of after winning is DUKE.

[dynastydefender]

So, today is March 28?

Nice to see the first thing you think of after winning is DUKE.

Whoops...I wrote that in a frenzy...Even the year is wrong. Doesn't change the fact that we won though. How about that Avatar Change?

[davekay1971]

Whoops...I wrote that in a frenzy...Even the year is wrong. Doesn't change the fact that we won though. How about that Avatar Change?

Congratulations to Kentucky for winning the National Championship. The kids certainly earned the victory, and Calipari should be commended for his ability to take a group of very young, very talented players and getting them to commit to defense, sharing the ball, and striving to achieve a team goal.

Kentucky Nation can now feel completely justified in turning their storied basketball program, unquestionably one of the most successful programs in all of college basketball, to a man with a longstanding history of ethical shortcomings, rule-bending/breaking, and treatment of academics and education as a nuisance to be avoided. After all, the whole point of hiring him was to win the title, ethics, honor, and education be damned. The gamble has, for now, paid off.

Congratulations!

[KenTankerous]

Kentucky Nation can now feel completely justified in turning their storied basketball program, unquestionably one of the most successful programs in all of college basketball, to a man with a longstanding history of ethical shortcomings, rule-bending/breaking, and treatment of academics and education as a nuisance to be avoided. After all, the whole point of hiring him was to win the title, ethics, honor, and education be damned. The gamble has, for now, paid off.

Congratulations!

I think Cal has found, through his near-misses (or as Carlin would say, "BS, that was a near HIT!") a way to operated his brand of powerhouse team building within the letter, if not spirit, of the rules. And it has delivered what Big Blue Nation craves - National Champions. (shooo, what any ball fan craves!)

Among my family and friends here in Louisville, that is OK. We do not talk about possible sanctions or the effects it may have long term on the game. While it is popular to say that UK fans live and die by victory, really, we have jobs, and kids, and lawns, and causes, and bunches of things that go on, despite victories and sanctions and we got to celebrate - most of us not burning or shooting anything - last week, and buy new shirts, but really, how does us loving or scoffing a victory mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of things?

I'm wearing the Duke NC shirt from 2010 as I type this. Does your vistory dance groove any deeper because Coach K alledgedly plays more deeply by the rules? And if so, what the frank and beans did any of you as Duke fans have to do with that ethic?

The same thing UK fans had to do with Cal being hired and allowed to run his program within the constraints of the NCAA rules.

nothing

[davekay1971]

I'm wearing the Duke NC shirt from 2010 as I type this. Does your vistory dance groove any deeper because Coach K alledgedly plays more deeply by the rules? And if so, what the frank and beans did any of you as Duke fans have to do with that ethic?

The same thing UK fans had to do with Cal being hired and allowed to run his program within the constraints of the NCAA rules.

nothing

Deep, profound, wrong, and completely beside the point.

Cal, if he is indeed playing within the rules as he wins, is probably able to do so because the KY brand allows him to do so, while at smaller schools such as UMass and Memphis, he had to go one step farther to get top caliber talent. I doubt the leopard has changed a spot...he just doesn't have to tiptoe quite as far to (or beyond) the edge of the rules as he did before.

As for what I, or any Duke fan, has done...well, I can't quite reproduce your prose, but here's the reply.

(1) Coach K doesn't alledgedly, or allegedly, play "more deeply by the rules" than Cal...he most definitely plays more deeply by the rules than Cal.

(2) My "vistory" dance does groove quite deeply...because I have the luxury of supporting a basketball program that has a long history of winning, graduating players, educating players, and doing it with a commendable lack of sanctions and scandals. Of course, that's my victory dance. The victory dance of a fan who could give a crap about such things could groove quite deep if their program won a title by any means necessary.

(3) I can, like a KY fan, choose to support, or not support, the team based on whether or not I support the way the program is being run. I'm not a big fan of blindly supporting laundry. If Duke basketball was run with the same blithe disregard for education, ethics, and rules as certain other programs, I could choose to no longer support Duke basketball. I don't have one tiny iota of control with regards to whether or not the Duke Athletics Department chooses to run it's program like, well, Duke, or hire a guy like Cal, but I can control whether or not I choose to support the program.

If you'll notice, my previous post about Kentucky's win didn't accuse Cal of cheating in any way shape or form with this year's team, nor did it take away from this year's team's victory in any way. There have been no allegations about the 2011-2012 Kentucky team and there should be no assumption that rule-breaking, or even rule-bending was involved. What I wrote was an honest congratulations for the victory won, and an honest assessment of the the decision Kentucky made to hire Cal, seeking a win doing it his way, with his well known and documented history.

If Duke hires Cal when K retires and promptly wins a Natty, my victory dance won't groove deeply at all.

[KenTankerous]

Thanks for the "d" in allegedly thing, I always get that wrong...

I mean this sincerely. You Blue Devils have a privilege (notice the "d" correction!) that no other elite program has ever enjoyed - a coach that found his home, an athletic director and overall program that had the luxury of not needing a winning team to be loved so that you could foster a legacy program. Not that Coach K has not made the most of his ethic, his intelligence, his drive and his passion. But who else, anywhere in college sports, has ever been given this opportunity?

You Dukies have it great! But it is lightning in a bottle. It has never been done before. And will never happen again. Revel in it.

But those programs not granted that privilege through legacy and tradition and, yes, money from the 1%, well, we play by the rules and compete as we can. And this year, one of us kicked everyone elses I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.!

[PaIronDuke]

Thanks for the "d" in allegedly thing, I always get that wrong...

I mean this sincerely. You Blue Devils have a privilege (notice the "d" correction!) that no other elite program has ever enjoyed - a coach that found his home, an athletic director and overall program that had the luxury of not needing a winning team to be loved so that you could foster a legacy program. Not that Coach K has not made the most of his ethic, his intelligence, his drive and his passion. But who else, anywhere in college sports, has ever been given this opportunity?

You Dukies have it great! But it is lightning in a bottle. It has never been done before. And will never happen again. Revel in it.

But those programs not granted that privilege through legacy and tradition and, yes, money from the 1%, well, we play by the rules and compete as we can. And this year, one of us kicked everyone elses I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.!

I post infrequently but couldn't let this fascinating post perhaps go unanswered....

The first paragraph and and half of the second paragraph are spot-on. In addition to our immense gratitude for all the pride basketball has given us for many years-including some pre-K- our encompassing pride and enjoyment has come from pride in the overall Duke athletic program-perhaps the best in the country, possibly excepting Stanford-over the past twenty years, with national team national champions in men's and women's lacrosse, golf,soccer, and other individual ones. We are eqally as proud of these "Iron Dukes" as we are of our basketball teams- going all the way back to the Groat-led ones and the original "Iron Dukes".

It is this of which we are most proud, in addition to believing that our Coach K-led teams literally personify all that is- or can be- good about college basketball.

And finally-with Coach K aboard and our superb A.D.-THERE ARE SOUND REASONS TO BELIEVE THIS WILL CONTINUE LONGER than the duration of "lightening in a bottle", however appealing and delicious may be that phrase.

[KenTankerous]

I'm wrong frequently and don't doubt you may be right about my wrong.

Great title to your post BTW!

[jamesfrommaiden]

20 years to the day after Laettner and "The Shot"

Now I have to change my avatar!!

GO BIG BLUE

No matter what happens in the world of college basketball Duke remains the center of the hoops universe.