If a kid goes into an agents office and says, "When I go pro, you will be my agent" and the agent starts giving him advice about the draft isn't that the same as if he actually signs some piece of paper? If a kid goes to ask advice from an agent who stands to get a financial gain from the transaction in the future, isn't that the same as "signing" on the dotted line? I am not sure where signing and getting information from the person who will be the future agent really differs.
providing the kid with "advice and counsel" is a tricky situation, however, i'm sure those agents have a threshold of when they think a piece of paper is the next step....
"Either we're going down, or they are....... Kirk out!"