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    2012 McDonald's All-American Game Thread

    I haven't seen a thread for this, so I thought I'd start one.

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    bazz looking big time.........

    our boy sheed looking silky.....and smart
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonpie23 View Post
    bazz looking big time.........

    our boy sheed looking silky.....and smart
    Agreed on both fronts. Bazz is legit. Really legit.

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    Information so far doesnt sound good on any of the three recruits. I hope we can pull at least one and add a transfer. Still think Mason comes back. Let's cross our fingers.....

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    Initial thoughts on the first half (focused on Duke targets and ACC guys):

    Sulaimon: He reminds me a lot of Nolan Smith, though he's a bit taller. He's REALLY quick, showed good explosiveness, good ballhandling, and unselfishness (rare in these games). And oh boy does he have range. He hit a 3 from the NBA line and then hit one from even further out. It's hard to say in an exhibition, but he seems faster and more explosive than Cook or Rivers, and though he probably doesn't have their dribble skills he looked pretty comfortable attacking off the dribble. He's noticeably more involved than either Cook or Gbinije was in last year's game.

    Muhammad: He was clearly the most dominant player in the first half. He threw down some monster dunks, hit a three, and just seemed at ease out there. Clearly a physical specimen and it is easy to see why he's the #1 or #2 recruit in the country. Strong, athletic, tenacious. There's no doubt he'll be an impact player right away.

    Parker: He's big and doughy. Definitely not in elite shape. But you can see the touch around the basket. He had a nice reverse layup on a fast break that was surprisingly smooth. He got several offensive rebounds. He's slow and not a leaper, but he can eat up space. It's hard to tell how he'll translate to college, but he's got a Reggie Johnson type of game (below the rim but crafty and big).

    Jefferson: He's super skinny. Definitely won't be a physical PF. I do wonder how effective he'll be right away at the PF in college. He had no post up plays. At first I thought he was the SF when he and Poythress were in together, as Poythress is noticeably bigger and Jefferson was staying on the perimeter. Had a mechanical jumpshot that went in from 19 feet and showed a slick move to the basket in which he unfortunately lost the ball going up. I didn't come away overly impressed with anything he did like I did with Sulaimon, Parker, and (especially) Muhammad. I'd guess he'd be a backup next year, but again it's not always easy to tell from these games.

    Purvis (NC State): He's going to start right away and he's going to be pretty darn good. The comparisons to Dwyane Wade are apparent. Not that he's that good, but he's got that kind of game. He could pair very nicely with Lorenzo Brown giving NC State a very tall, very athletic, very good ballhandling pair of guards.

    Lewis (NC State): He's little (I hate to say that because he's probably my height), but he's got game. Confident on the dribble and has a good eye for the pass. Because of his height and slight frame, I'd expect him to back up Brown next year in what may very well be the best backcourt in the ACC.

    Warren (NC State): He's a solidly built 3 with good athleticism. Definitely seemed like an off-ball player, which could work well with Brown/Purvis/Lewis to set him up. He'll be a nice change of pace from Scott Wood with his strength and athleticism. Seems more in the Nate James mold (though obviously not as badass).

    Note: I really really like what State's perimeter looks like. They could start 6'4", 6'5", 6'5" with 5'11" and 6'6" off the bench. If Leslie stays, that's an incredibly talented and well-matched team.

    Paige: Meh. Didn't do much noteworthy. Got a couple of bunny assists on fast breaks. Seemed quick but not a standout tonight so far. Though Marshall didn't stand out either, so take these games for what they're worth.

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    Liking what I see from Rasheed so far. He's hit a couple 3's. He takes it to the basket in traffic. Looks very comparable to Nolan Smith from what I can tell. I don't think this kid will have a problem finding a productive role at Duke.
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    Sulaimon is 3-4 on 3-pointers by my count, but I admit I've walked away from the TV briefly a couple of times. I agree his jumper is smooth and he has demonstrated both speed and ball handling ability in this game. He should develop into a real talent at Duke.
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    Early in the second half, Sulaimon showed even more evidence that he'll be ready to contribute. He is very quick. I'm glad jipops also sees Nolan Smith in his game, because that was my immediate image. He's smooth, super quick, explosive, and can really shoot. I'm really excited about him. He's been the second or third most impressive player so far (Muhammad and maybe Anderson have been more impressive).

    Jefferson just showed a nice up and under move to shake a defender and get a layup. He's more Lance Thomas than CJ Leslie in terms of athleticism. But he's got good ballhandling skills and decent range for a PF.

    Paige has made a couple of nice passes. I don't see Marshall in him, but he's done a bit more in this half worthy of note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Sulaimon is 3-4 on 3-pointers by my count, but I admit I've walked away from the TV briefly a couple of times. I agree his jumper is smooth and he has demonstrated both speed and ball handling ability in this game. He should develop into a real talent at Duke.
    Yep, looks good! I also agree with CDu on his evaluations. Shabazz is just sick. Man, if he somehow chooses Duke, the ante will be upped big time. I know it is a longshot, but Dave Telep can be wrong once in a slim while. That would be incredible. He is just a man among boys out there and brings great focus and drive to boot.

    Congrats to Captains Amile Jefferson & Quinn Cook. Go lead this team to nets and hardware fellas!

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    Parker is making his presence felt a bit more in the second half. He's a pretty good offensive rebounder. Good hands and good touch around the basket. The only knock I have is that he's chubby and struggles to get up and down the court. The Reggie Johnson comp seems more and more apt. Hopefully he has Johnson's motor though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    Paige: Meh. Didn't do much noteworthy. Got a couple of bunny assists on fast breaks. Seemed quick but not a standout tonight so far. Though Marshall didn't stand out either, so take these games for what they're worth.
    Overall, your analysis is spot on, but are you sure you're being objective on Paige? I thought he looked good early pushing the ball up the court with the dribble. I agree he isn't like Marshall but would counter he is in the mold of a Felton or Lawson.

    The game has degenerated into the typical back and forth, no defense being played affair in the 2nd half. There was actually some defense played during the first 20 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    Parker is making his presence felt a bit more in the second half. He's a pretty good offensive rebounder. Good hands and good touch around the basket. The only knock I have is that he's chubby and struggles to get up and down the court. The Reggie Johnson comp seems more and more apt. Hopefully he has Johnson's motor though.
    I wouldn't mind having a Reggie Johnson on our roster.

    How is Rasheed Sulaimon's D (assuming you can tell in a game like this)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Overall, your analysis is spot on, but are you sure you're being objective on Paige? I thought he looked good early pushing the ball up the court with the dribble. I agree he isn't like Marshall but would counter he is in the mold of a Felton or Lawson.

    The game has degenerated into the typical back and forth, no defense being played affair in the 2nd half. There was actually some defense played during the first 20 minutes.
    I was saying more from the perspective that he didn't stand out. He'll certainly fit into UNC's up-tempo style. I'd say he's somewhere between Marshall and Lawson/Felton. He doesn't have the explosiveness of Lawson or Felton but is definitely faster than Marshall. When looking at a PG, I guess I was looking for more explosiveness.

    In terms of the PG in this game, I think Ferrell has been the most impressive. The other guys have had some moments. Paige is more ready than Lewis. I just don't see Marshall, Lawson, or Felton from him (yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedsy View Post
    How is Rasheed Sulaimon's D (assuming you can tell in a game like this)?
    Well he actually played some D so that's a good sign. I know he had a steal in the 1st half. The best observation I have is he has demonstrated quickness.
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    Sulaimon just had another steal and delivered a pass for an easy bucket so he earned an assist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedsy View Post
    I wouldn't mind having a Reggie Johnson on our roster.

    How is Rasheed Sulaimon's D (assuming you can tell in a game like this)?
    Not noteworthy one way or the other. He was willing to get into a nice defensive stance, but he wasn't locking anyone down either. Just not a good environment to judge on-ball defense.

    And yes, I'd be thrilled with a Reggie Johnson on our roster. I wasn't too thrilled about him before tonight. He's growing on me. I'm sold on Sulaimon and Muhammad. Jefferson hasn't wowed me. Seems like a guy who'd sit most of the time next year and contribute more as a sophomore/junior/senior.

    Nice to see Sulaimon and Muhammad play together. A backcourt of Sulaimon, Curry, Muhammad would look REALLY nice.

    Did I mention I'm excited about Sulaimon? Because I am. He looks really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Well he actually played some D so that's a good sign. I know he had a steal in the 1st half. The best observation I have is he has demonstrated quickness.
    Very impressed with Rasheed. Very quick, excellent stroke from outside, and can get to the rim impressively. He'll get some major burn next year. He's got a lot of Nolan in him, but (at the same stage) perhaps even more impressive. I get very excited when a talent like him comes in who also has an amiable personality, humility, and a good work ethic. Excited about this guy.

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    Sulaimon just scored a traditional 3-point play on a backdoor cut. He looks very good. Amile Jefferson appears to be a versatile player so if he picks Duke he could be a player capable of playing multiple positions once he matures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukedoc View Post
    Very impressed with Rasheed. Very quick, excellent stroke from outside, and can get to the rim impressively. He'll get some major burn next year. He's got a lot of Nolan in him, but (at the same stage) perhaps even more impressive. I get very excited when a talent like him comes in who also has an amiable personality, humility, and a good work ethic. Excited about this guy.
    This is an important thing to note. Sulaimon definitely seems further along than Smith did at his McDonald's game. He's noticeably more athletic than any of the guards on this year's team, and he has a feathery shot and strong ballhandling skills.

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    Sulaimon plays every play. Alert O and D, all-around skills, smart smarts, good handle, passer, shooter.

    I like Jefferson a lot, maybe because I think we have a slightly better shot at getting him than Muhammad or Parker. Jefferson isn't as unusual as is Kyle Anderson, whom Duke was interested in at one point [and I'd like to know why that faded....]; but Jefferson is also very active, pretty good handle, alert like Sulaimon. Hope he picks Duke.

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