2. I'm guessing that the person who didn't rank McAdoo did so because he/she doesn't think McAdoo will enter this year.
I'd also point out that the discrepancy may be partly a function of differences in information available. Guys like Chad Ford are very well-connected. Some of the other sites might very well be run by some kid out of his parents' house. I'm not saying that the sites you've mentioned qualify as the latter, but I could go home tonight and put together a website and put my guess for the draft. But my guesses would be fairly uninformed. Actually, what I'd probably do in such a hypothetical would be to take the list that Chad Ford prepared and make a few minor modifications based on "potential team needs."
I agree with the point that Beane exploited the misunderstanding of OBP and OPS (although with a few other measures) -- but it worked best when he used it to acquire undervalued veterans. His draft acumen turned out to be mediocre to poor.
And there were a lot of other draft successes later on - far better than "mediocre to poor" in my view.
"I don't like them when they are eating my azaleas or rhododendrons or pansies." - Coach K
If Mason had declared for the draft (with or without an agent) Duke would have announced it. To my knowledge, that has not happened. I'd be quite surprised if Ric Bucher has more inside information about Mason than our on Duke insiders.
RT @RicBucher Draft buzz is agent Mark Bartlestein has landed Plumlee Twins & Jeff Schwartz will rep Tyler Zeller.
Curious as to the identity of the "Plumlee Twins?" Is that MP1&MP2; or MP2&MP3; or...?
Yeah, it sounds like he's repping Miles and will represent Mason whenever he comes out, whether it be this year or next. That's my take at least. Mason's in a bit of a unique position since Miles will be going through all the predraft prep. I wonder if he could manage a loophole by not submitting before the April 10th deadline, thereby giving him until April 29th to decide, but using Miles to gather information about his (Mason's) draft status, i.e. asking the scouts "so, what do you think about my brother?"
And remember: Beane fully admitted that Brown wasn't 1st round quality. But he also knew that he couldn't afford to spend 1st round money on all 5 1st round picks. So he made a habit of drafting guys earlier than they should have gone and signing them for less than market value for that pick.
Last edited by CDu; 04-02-2012 at 09:36 PM.
Weber State guard Damian Lillard going pro. The 6-foot-3, 21-year-old Lillard averaged 24.5 points, five rebounds and four assists en route to his second Big Sky MVP award.
"Lillard is considered one of nation's top point guards and projected to go as high as No. 9 in June's draft."
Mason moves down another notch.
"Either we're going down, or they are....... Kirk out!"
Imagine short term what would happen to the draft if the NBA changed the rule to "must be three years removed from college". Mason would probably be a top 10 pick. According to NBAdraft.net this years top 10 eligible picks would be:
1) Thomas Robinson, Kansas
2) Arnett Moultrie, Miss. St.
3) Damian Lillard, Weber State
4) John Henson, UNC
5) Tyler Zeller, UNC
6) Jeffrey Taylor, Vanderbilt
7) Andrew Nicholson, St. Bonnie
8) Mason Plumlee, Duke
9) John Jenkins, Vanderbilt
10) Festus Ezeli, Vanderbilt
Pretty bad talent with (undeserving???) guys making big money and more importantly guaranteed 3 three year contracts. I guess in this scenerio, Seth Curry and Ryan Kelly would consider leaving early...
But practically speaking, whenever/if ever an increase to the age limit is instituted, the subsequent draft class is going to be light on talent.
Names like Wall, Favors, Cousins, Williams, Hamilton would all be a part of that draft board (IIRC, and IF my brain is functioning properly today. I must put out that warning due to lack of sleep )
So, in all likelihood, the names listed above would probably still be ranked where they are ranked now with the scenario proposed.
EDIT - CDU's a stinker. He beat me to it!